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BU hockey player's guilty plea in sex-assault case clears way for possible NHL career
By adamg on Wed, 08/08/2012 - 8:18am
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Attempted Rape
It's sad that this is what they consider suitable punishment for attempted rape. I wonder if the woman is going to press civil charges. It's a horrible thing to happen to someone.
Given the problems with the BU hockey team last year the University should discontinue the program entirely for at least three years. Hockey isn't important enough to put up with the mentality of some of these students. Put the hockey money towards academic programs.
Why was the case dropped?
No witnesses, no evidence...
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I know this won't make the pain
go away, but I sure hope that young lady gets a big fat financial settlement based on his NHL contract.
Yeah I'm assuming there will
Yeah I'm assuming there will be a civil suit very soon after he signs any contract and she deserves what she can get after this debacle of justice.
Peterborough
http://www.bostontipster.com
Of course there will be a civil suit
Not sure if I would consider this a debacle considering all the facts. I think it would have been very difficult to convict on the full charges.
Hopefully they can both move on and have happy lives.
Corey is a good kid with a bad alcohol problem. I hope he takes advantage of the help available to him and overcomes his addiction.
Corey is a "good kid"?
Really? If he's a good kid, what is a bad kid?
I hope that someday he will have the self-awareness and humility to recognize that he's a bad person and alcohol just intensifies that but I doubt he will ever reach that level of maturity. I can't wait until he gets to Steps 8 and 9. That's going to be a doozy for him if he does it right and doesn't fake his way through it.
He has shown humility so far
And has accepted responsibility for his actions. It's a start and he has a long road to travel. Alcohol in large quantities eliminates good judgement and can lead to good people doing bad things. If you have never known someone who has had a drinking problem and seen the seemingly insane things they do on a bender, you are very fortunate.
Ha ha ha!
I have seen a person with an alcohol problem act rather insanely while on a "bender", and it's really creepy, scary and disgusting. I came pretty close to being the target of that one year, during my 20th-year high school reunion, when an old classmate of mine, who'd taken to the bottle full time, really was on a bender that night, and kept trying to hit on me for sex the whole evening. I could've more than likely protected myself (and would've, if worst had come to worst and my drunken classmate had tried anything), but didn't want to end up in that position. So, I ended up asking a longtime good friend of mine who was also present at our 20th-year high school reunion to accompany me out to my car in the parking lot after the festivities ended at around midnight.
Another reason
Another reason, of many, to never, EVER go to high school reunions.
Well, I've got news for you, anon!
I also attended our 31st high school class reunion, where the same guy was there, but...lo and behold, while he was still slurring his words, he looked better and was far better behaved than he'd been at our 20th year reunion. My hunch is that at least one or two people on the committee who organized the reunion more than likely said something to him about his out of control behavior at the last reunion and he straightened out somewhat and acted better this time around.
To be truthful, however, this particular guy had issues dating back from when he was a kid (I've known him since the 3rd grade), and he wasn't a nice guy to begin with.
I attended our 40th-year class reunion back in 2009, and guess what? Neither that particular guy, or any members of the crowd that he'd hung out with in high school were there this time around!
Taking someone else's moral inventory for them:
not usually advisable in context of AA-style recovery. But in the context of UHub, of course, very much encouraged. Or else what would we talk about half the time?
Certainly the jails are full of people who did bad things when drunk or high. Are they all irredeemably "bad people"? I tend to think not. Which step is "realizing you're a bad person"? I must have missed that one.
That said, I thought this incident was serious enough for this dude to do some time. Too bad the DA couldn't have gone ahead and prosecuted on the more serious charges. The NHL should probably tell him to take a hike out of respect for the victim.
On the other hand ...
Not every person who has troubles with alcohol or drugs rapes, drives drunk, gets in fights, kills people, etc.
There has to be some core sense of entitlement or lack of empathy behind it.
So
An alcoholic who drives drunk has to have a sense of entitlement or lack of empathy? He can't just be a really, really bad drunk?
This kid committed a crime. He forced his way into his ex-girlfriends room and touched her in an inappropriate manner. He didn't rape her, kill her, or hit her with his car while drunk.
Because of his actions, he is going to be put on probation and forced to submit to drug and alcohol screenings. If he violates those terms, he'll deal with a more severe penalty. I'm guessing if any undergrad who had a clean criminal record did the same thing, they'd get a similar punishment. The fact that he plays hockey and may play in the NHL is completely irrelevant. Just as he shouldn't get any special treatment for being a good athlete, he shouldn't be punished any differently because of it either.
Well then
We should give him a gold star for not-so-bad behavior! His Mom must be so proud.
And for the record, there is a reason I know about the 12 Steps so I don't want any BS coming my way about not knowing about addicts.
No
But I guess using your thinking, since he assaulted her, he should get a lethal injection? There are different crimes and different penalties for those crimes. In this case, a judge thought the sentence fit the crime. The above poster said that since he was drunk and did what he did, and other people drink and don't do it, then he must be entitled. I didn't agree with that statement.
Fair enough
But I think people can develop more empathy, and can change their behavior and their attitudes. I don't believe in Predestination.
Agreed
Agreed.
Just pointing out that alcohol removes inhibitions, but doesn't create monsters in and of itself.
It also removes
rational thought, and sometimes consciousness.
There's some monsters out there, but they're usually self medicating as is. As much as this kid needs help, I don't think labeling him a monster is fair. Hopefully he learns from this, and finds a way to make amends.
And on even another hand...
We have a victim who, regardless of what motivated his behavior, has been put through a terrible ordeal. Whether he was drunk, a sociopath or just a jerk, his victim will probably relive her pain and terror for a long time to come.
Arrgghh
I hate it when I agree with you
That's true
But some people also black and brown out.
I don't and never have, luckily, But I have a friend that did.
Literally it's a switch and one moment he's there, the next it's flipped and he's not. Luckily he wasn't violent or overly belligerent, but sometimes the unconscious takeover that happens can be bad in some people. With him he was a social wanderer, he'd become like that kid that always finds himself on the trains. He learned his lessons and doesn't drink to that point anymore, but it took a scare or two for him to realize how dangerous it really was.
And no, that doesn't absolve a person from criminal or civil acts. But people are very rarely bad/evil or good/saint. All it takes is a human lapse of judgment sometimes, and if he was working with the DA and the victim to take responsibility, that's a lot more than most people would do and does show some integrity when his heads about him.
If the people who head the NHL have any brains or decency,
they'll tell that Corey Trevino to take a hike and not bother to even try to sign up for a hockey career.
No excuse
Alcohol might explain his behavior, but it in no way excuses it. Perhaps getting healthy should be his focus over the NHL.
You are correct - not an excuse
But it was a contributing factor. People make bad choices when shit faced and can do things they would never do otherwise. Corey has no history of ever doing anything like this previously, although he does have a history of other bad decisions while drinking but nothing involving any type of violence.
The NHL has a great drug/alcohol treatment program. He will receive much better help and support through them than he could on his own. It will be up to him to make the right choices going forward.
I am SO glad that the
I am SO glad that the attempted rapist will get the support he needs! Then at least someone in this will.
I am sure...
The settlement will provide her with some support...
Bad Decision
A history of making bad decisions while drinking makes choosing to drink again a bad decision in and of itself.
I'm assuming no one forced a drink down his throat, yes? He *choose* to drink to the point he impaired his judgement so badly he committed criminal acts.
Sure he did
He's a young adult. It's not new that they think they are invincible and unaffected by their actions.
And those are the ones who aren't hockey phenoms likely to get NHL contracts.
Please stop defending this guy
This guy has made bad decision after bad decision and is getting rewarded by becoming a professional athlete in an organization that will support his recovery and pay him goodness knows what to play a game for a living.
Life is truly wonderful for Corey!
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that life is not as wonderful for the woman he victimized.
And...
What would you like to see done about that?
I would have liked it if
he had been mandated to go to an inpatient rehab facility for at least 30 days (paid out of his pocket, not mine) and been prohibited from leaving the state while he's on probation effectively preventing him from living the dream in the NHL.
Okay, so Corey has a bad alcohol problem. So what?
That excuses what he did to this woman? Oh..no! Corey deserves severe punishment for his crimes against her, perhaps even a jail sentence. He should not go free and unpunished. Just because he's got a drinking problem doesn't let him off the hook.
Corey Trevino must be forced to recompensate his victim.
Just because Corey Trevino is a guy with an alcohol problem who happened to be on a "bender" doesn't mean he should get away with the crap that he's pulled. Not only should he go to jail, but he should be forced to recompense his victim in some way or other.
And, with respect, it's exactly that type of thinking
that has resulted in the steady decline of our legal system.
Not defending the individual's actions. But, he was brought up on criminal charges, he pled guilty to those charges, and he was sentenced based on those charges. You may disagree with the severity of the sentence the judge handed down (as I do), but - and pardon the pun here - Case Closed!
Yet, you believe that this person should still be subject to a civil suit and be forced to pay additional "damages".
Talk about "double dipping".
Roadman...do you know what rape/attempted rape really is?
It's a total violation of the victim's body, soul and emotions, and, often enough, the traumatic affects of rape, whether it's committed by a friend/acquaintence or a stranger (rape is rape, no matter what), can be long-lasting, if not permanent. One doesn't have to have been a rape victim to realize that. I myself have never been a rape victim, but I've known several people who have been, and it's painful to see the emotional/mental toll that this kind of a trauma takes on them.
Any guy who rapes a woman deserves to pay a steep price, and if it means a jail sentence, along with a forced restitution of some sort to his victim, so be it. Rape is a crime, and should be treated as such.
Shame Shoutouts. I got a boatload for ya:
The Herald's framing of the story is wrong. The victim did not "clear the way" for the perp's NHL career, the (lack of) Justice System did by slapping an admitted rapist on the wrist for Sexually Assaulting someone.
The justice system regularly (and often deliberately) retraumatizes sexual assault victims to the point where many victims find it in their own self interest NOT to go to trial. How is this justice? Murder trials are regularly tried without revictimizing the victim, and yet with sexual assault we have a 5% conviction rate in no small part due to abuses in the system.
And Shame on the NHL for considering drafting an admitted perp. The guy is a danger to society should be shunned.
Bonus points to the Herald for starting another round of "Guess the Victim's identity who we can't actually Name, but we'll help you out..."
Apologists, this is your cue to do your thing.
back when Christian Peter of Nebraska football was drafted
by the Patriots, the owner's wife put her foot down. If that rapist showed up in camp, ONE OF THEM was leaving. He was sent to another team where he showed himself to be a true scumbag. Just one more reason why this whole town misses Myra Kraft.
Wasn't Just Myra
Bellichek didn't want his bad attitude in his lockerroom, either.
How can you re-victimize a
How can you re-victimize a murder victim? They're dead.
It's possible to re-victimize the murder victim's family,
thus causing them additional pain and sadness to what pain and sadness they're already suffering as it is.
There's something inherently wrong with a system that
gives rapists/guys like Corey Trevino a slap on the wrist, when he really deserves some hard jail time, and the system needs badly to be changed.