Hey, there! Log in / Register

Bicyclist taken away in ambulance after getting hit by city trash truck

Bicyclist on gurney in front of trash truck

City trash truck, bicyclist, first responders.

A roving UHub photographer came upon this scene around 2 p.m. today:

City of Boston Parks Department trash truck hit a woman riding a bike at the corner of Beacon and Charles.

Neighborhoods: 
Topics: 
Free tagging: 


Ad:


Like the job UHub is doing? Consider a contribution. Thanks!

Comments

Of course there was another serious accident reported on UHub just a few feet east of this accident.

http://www.universalhub.com/2010/another-bad-bicyc...

up
Voting closed 0

How about women crashes bike into city trash truck? Just kidding, I'm sure both participants were at equal fault. I've always experienced courtesy and right of way obedience from bikers, autos, and pedestrians at this corner. Get to it loonies.

up
Voting closed 0

Before this thread gets out of control, lemme just ask if they've put in the Hubway station at this location? It was supposed to happen this past week. Some of the neighbors were worried about the location being too congested and difficult to maneuver.

No idea if the woman hit was riding her own or a rented bike, just throwing it out there as general information.

up
Voting closed 0

The hubway station is located across the street from the original proposed location.

It is a pretty abused location. People who live in the buildings on either side have various reports of cars crashing into whatever. The location originally proposed in from of the Sovereign Bank had a car crashed into the cars parked there. So there was a combinantion NIMBY (basically the elderly and handicapped living in the building with the bank would loose a place to load and unload) and concern about the safety of the location. And I would say that the concern about safety was greater. There are always a few in the neighborhood that will fight bikes at every turn, but I believe they are small minority (although a vocal minority).

EDIT: Beacon Hill Patch article on accidents at this intersection (with Codman Island in the middle).
http://beaconhill.patch.com/groups/politics-and-el...

up
Voting closed 0

NIMBY in Beacon Hill?!?! Well I never....

up
Voting closed 0

Placed well, a Hubway station could make a dangerous place safer, much like crash impact absorbers and yellow, plastic, sand barrels on highways in front of road splits. Parked cars do this too, but are more of a shame if damaged.

Bike lanes have similar value. If someone in a parked car threw open the door, a car or truck passing by closely could take it right off. A bike lane provides a buffer to better protect car doors.

Yes, this is a joke posting.

up
Voting closed 0

It is coming for you! It will swallow you whole!
http://www.huhmagazine.co.uk/5720/ai-weiwei---fore...

up
Voting closed 0

Given that it is a city trash truck, it might have been exiting the common here, and not in any predictable direction, either. I've seen them sprint out that ramp across the crosswalk behind the island on Charles to get to Beacon westbound.

However, there are so many ways that any given car, truck, bike, or pedestrian can get through this intersection it is difficult to speculate where either was coming from - particularly with the extra ways a city truck could enter or exit it.

Add in cyclists turning one of two ways from Charles St. down Beacon (or crossing over to the common via two walk lights) and pedestrians going every which way and cars ignoring their red light when turning right or even left Beacon (happens quite a bit) and cyclists heading wrong-way down Charles and it is anyone's guess which directions and ways the truck and the bike were heading, let alone what light cycle they may or may not have had.

Maybe someday the city will hire someone from Europe to properly redesign the whole mess to properly accommodate the ways in which people really need to use it.

up
Voting closed 0

bring all the sensible europeans with him/her or will this person try to implement a new system for the same arrogant drivers and bicyclists here?

Our problem is the users more than the facilities.

up
Voting closed 0

Hah, so true.

If they used those zig zag lines they use in London to warn drivers of upcoming pedestrian crossings, the drivers here would just swerve back and forth to follow the line.

Yesterday [when there were still school buses] I saw a minivan behind a school bus that was unloading with its blinkers on and stop sign out. Minivan driver honking incessantly because it couldn't get around the bus, which it is not legal to do anyhow.

up
Voting closed 0

We drive on the wrong side of the road all the time. (cue snarky anon 'England isn't Europe' comments) Remember boys and girls, the bike always loses. Just got to ride defensively.

up
Voting closed 0

Motorcyclists have similar safety impediments to bikes: they're small, they have worse visibility, and they're very vulnerable in the case of an accident. However, I know far more motorcyclists who are well-versed in defensive safety, the weaknesses a motorcycle has versus a larger vehicle like a car or a truck, and the ways to best mitigate them, than bicyclists. The culture of knowing one's weaknesses to reduce accident and injury simply isn't there among many cyclists. They often just know "I have my rights," but rights don't protect you from injury.

I'm sure it's a function of having to go through safety training and road tests for your M license. Perhaps it would be worthwhile for a nonprofit to offer a similar free or cheap course for bicyclists?

up
Voting closed 0

Ever see how they use fences and curbs to tame the different groups in England and Ireland? (I've seen them in Spain, too, as well as Chicago and NYC)

Those might be useful here. Germans, Swiss, and Dutch and Scandanavians don't seem to need as many of the physical barriers to behave, but it is possible to separate pedestrian, cycle, and motor vehicle traffic using physical devices.

Of course, a good redesign properly accommodates all the things that people want and need to do, so there is less incentive for misbehavior.

Which reminds me that I need to contact Citizens Connect about a couple of pedestrian crossing zones downtown that aren't getting enough time even though the number of pedestrians crossing is multiple times the number of cars going through in a absurdly long cycle. This leads to people dashing across in the long empty stretches of (car) green light.

up
Voting closed 0

Which reminds me that I need to contact Citizens Connect about a couple of pedestrian crossing zones downtown that aren't getting enough time even though the number of pedestrians crossing is multiple times the number of cars going through in a absurdly long cycle. This leads to people dashing across in the long empty stretches of (car) green light.

I'm sure they'll get right on that.

up
Voting closed 0

Considerably better than no chance.

up
Voting closed 0

Why don't just move to Europe or NYC since you are quite enamored with the two places, judging by previous posts?

Seriously, I HAVE LIVED ON THE CONTINENT, including in Paris, and Germany; trust me on this, they have their share of crazy drivers, road rage, etc., You make it sound like some kind of paradise, while here in Boston we're like a third world country.

And another thing: Scandinavia, even the Netherlands, Germany [both of which are semi-multicultural] and Switzerland, are not in the same league of being uber diverse and multicultural [or being an extremely large nation state which minus foreign immigrant and 'migrant' influences, is in and of itself very culturally and regionally diverse] as the United States of America. Generally speaking, the more cohesive and dare I say culturally homogeneous a society/nation is, the more stable they are. We in the U.S. are afflicted, at least in large urban areas like Greater Boston, with major and pernicious culture clashes. And by that, I don't just mean foreign based cultures and attitudes, I also mean the attitudes and culture/traditions people from other parts of our country bring with them, here. This of course isn't unique to the Boston area.

The U.S. [North America, Canada included] are a auto-centric nation over-all. Most likely primarily because we're so geographically big and spread out, much more so than western Europe or certainly the UK and Ireland. I was born and raised [and live] in big cities, so I'm used to using public transportation [subways,buses, etc] and walking around; most Americans [who live in vast suburban sprawl] aren't. Many of them will drive a 1/3rd of a mile to a store rather than walk, or bike. It is what it is. And many of these people come into Boston and other cities to work, go to school, a hospital, to clubs, and so-on. And they don't leave their attitude at the door when arrive at the city limits, or when they get off the exit ramp and attempt to use Charles St pass the common like it was the autobahn. I'm only surprised more people are crippled and killed at the intersection of Charles and Beacon.

up
Voting closed 0

I don't think anyone is really expecting anyone to become culturally homogenous or leave their car at the door when they come here to Boston. We just wish everyone, born here or migrants from other cities or places, to be a little less self-centered, and nicer to each other. Stress less, hurry less, and be happier. Driving or riding or walking around should be fun, not a chore. So you need to stop and sit or go slow. Take advantage of the time and listen to some music or news or an audible book. Enjoy the scenery. Relax.

up
Voting closed 0

Being raised in the U S of A at a time when schools were slashing their language programs (and few were available to me) is one of the few reasons that I stay. My teens, who are nearing the end of their schooling, speak multiple languages and are hoping to live elsewhere after or as they complete their studies.

It would be relatively easy for me to take a job in Europe - but it would be difficult to actually live there as I only speak 'murcan!

up
Voting closed 0

Many non-native English speaking western Europeans, especially in northern Europe, speak and understand English. Once living there for a while, the language[s], slang, etc., can be picked up. And it's not at all easy to get a job in western Europe, or the UK/Ireland, unless you're a EU citizen, or at least dual citizen with an EU passport. Even then, their employment outlook over-all is worse than here in the U.S. The cost of living over-all is also considerably higher.

I think some Americans [I'm not speaking necessarily about you, or talking down to you] have an overly romantic view towards Europe; most of the problems and issues we have here, they also have. It may seem like the U.S. has many problems while Europe is more sedate, but that's an illusion based primarily I think on the fact any and all news about the U.S. is spread all over the world, while the reverse isn't nearly the case. Euro politicians love this status quo, it takes a lot of heat off them. I would also tell you political extremes are also more pronounced and common-place in Europe compared to the U.S. I would close by saying any American who moves to Europe, regardless of which country, to escape a discontent with life in the U.S., is probably not going to end up happier over there. And assuming you're a professional of some kind, you'll most likely also end up poorer, especially if you remain a U.S. citizen.

up
Voting closed 0

I do travel to and through Europe, and collaborate with other scientists in the EU, sometimes for weeks at a time . English is good enough for traveling these countries, but living there is a different issue entirely. I have also noticed that the likelihood that someone speaks English is much reduced as you travel away from the major cities.

I'm not interested in living in the UK or Ireland (see "travels" and "colleagues").

I will consider a temporary posting once my kids fledge, but it is hard to participate fully in the life of a place when you don't speak the local languages. I'd also like to make the US a better place, too, by pointing out similar situations and best practices where appropriate - that's allowed, isn't it? Or have we turned into stupid neverchangeforanyreasonland?

up
Voting closed 0

C'mon, I'm disappointed not hearing that vans in cities replace the need for trucks from you for salon products to refrigerated food perishables, to trash!

As to behaving, um, isn't there a traffic light at the intersection where the collision took place?

up
Voting closed 0

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CF8J8KV5XzU/SgBMMqGg1AI/...

Most tightly wound cities use these. The lower dump zones mean that the ergonomics are better for the trash collectors as well = possibly lower rates of injury and disability.

Actually, there are several traffic lights at that intersection ... but, since you never bother to go into the city, it isn't any use explaining how complicated the whole thing is.

up
Voting closed 0

The garbage truck in this post is a smallish one. It's built on a pickup truck frame.

Residential collection on Beacon Hill uses really tiny garage trucks. I think they're cute.

up
Voting closed 0

bike safety is taught in schools in most european countries. In the netherlands, when you're 12, you're required to take a cycling exam (both riding and written) before you're allowed to bike without an adult. The requirements for drivers licenses are vastly more stringent there too...

12 year-olds are very motivated to pass this exam because it means they have the freedom to go places whenever they want. And since everyone has bike safety training, there's much more mutual respect on the roads.

The infrastructure actually came later.

up
Voting closed 0

Oooo, look who read the Boston Globe article recently and now thinks they can tell the cycling community something we didn't already know. Tell me, are you white, and did you read a paper on racial discrimination, and then start going around telling black people about the civil rights movement?

And since everyone has bike safety training, there's much more mutual respect on the roads.

The mutual respect comes from everyone having experience riding in traffic, not "bike safety training." In other words: drivers identify with cyclists, instead of just considering them moving roadblocks. They know what it's like to be nearly sideswiped, or have someone pass them and then cut them off, or have someone oncoming cut them off.

The infrastructure actually came later.

The laws protecting cyclists and making drivers at fault by default in a collision unless they can prove they were not at fault, did not.

Nice try.

up
Voting closed 0

Although if we hired a European traffic engineer, they'd place priority on pedestrians and cyclists and would laugh at the car-only "Level of Service" studies that they'd be forced to do. LOS is stupid - it's purely about speeding up time cars are in the intersection, and completely ignores other users. Our intersections are designed with pedestrians and cyclists as an afterthought - and they don't even really work that well for cars...

up
Voting closed 0

the Parks and Recreation Department drivers. They often can be found driving those unnecessarily large trash trucks and pickups on both the sidewalks abutting the Common and the (supposedly) pedestrian-only pathways within the Common itself. That is, when they're not blocking one of those pathways whith the behemoth vehicles while they're off chatting with a buddy.

up
Voting closed 0

Somebody has to empty those cans, and I don't think they get a choice of vehicle.

This would be a good application for smaller vehicles for routine pickups - and larger ones after the big events.

up
Voting closed 0

MUST drive along the sidewalk along Boylston after they've done their work and are returning to the maintenance "pit" across from the Boylston Place alley. And care to explain why they need to do this work during the morning rush hour, which is one of the times when pedestrian traffic is at its peak?. Plus, nothing excuses the drivers from leaving their pickups stopped (and idling) because they decide to chat with their buddy.

FYI, I used to see smaller Parks and Recreation vehicles that were designed to operate on the pedestrian pathways of the Common at one point - not sure why the abandoned them in favor of the current road behemoths they now use.

up
Voting closed 0

Hi there,

Photos aren't showing up in the RSS feed. :(

up
Voting closed 0

Turns out this is one of the things that's actually harder to do in the new version of the software than the old. Will work on it tonight.

up
Voting closed 0

Anyone have any info on the biker's condition now?

up
Voting closed 0