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Six BC seniors charged with tearing up apartment, almost blowing place up

Six BC students will graduate this spring with criminal charges over their heads after they allegedly broke into a Brighton apartment on March 16, tore the place apart, urinated all over the apartment and ripped a gas line out of a basement dryer, the Suffolk County District Attorney's office reports.

The six seniors were arraigned in Brighton District Court today on charges of breaking and entering in the nighttime and willful and malicious destruction of property over $250, the DA's office says.

According to the DA's office:

The six men forced their way into a Gerald Road apartment at approximately 11:30 p.m. on March 16. Once inside, the group punched holes in the walls, urinated throughout the apartment, and threw eggs, milk, and other food, prosecutors said. Two tables and two speakers were also damaged.

After vandalizing the first floor apartment, prosecutors said, the men turned their attention to the clothes dryer in the basement. A gas line was ripped from the machine, which was situated near a furnace. Prosecutors said the group fled the scene, failing to provide any warning to the resident who continued to sleep as the building filled with gas. Damage to the property was estimated at $25,000.

A call placed to National Grid prompted an emergency response from the company, Boston Police, and Boston Fire Department.

The call, prosecutors say, was traced to a cell phone belonging to one of the six, Arthur Pidoriano, of Cortlandt Manor, NY. Also charged: Charles Howe and Christian Rockefeller, both of Pleasantville, NY, Timothy Orr of Briarcliff Manor, NY, Matthew Tolkowsky of Morristown, NJ and David Rogers, of Providence.

All were released on personal recognizance, but must submit to random drug tests, the DA's office says.

Innocent, etc.

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A university education has become the equivalent of a diploma from preschool when it comes to civility. Aren't boys supposed to be done with the breaking stuff is fun mentality by the time they finish grammar school?

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... when some of these kids arrived at school with the life skills and self-discipline of an Irish Setter on crack ... and plenty of participation trophies.

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Unfair to Irish Setters.

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Yep.

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A university education has become the equivalent of a diploma from preschool when it comes to civility.

Traditionally, civility and a university education were always at odds. If you weren't going to be clergy, the sons of the rich went to university to screw off for a few years. It's only after WWII that Americans started to go to college in large numbers and Joe Sixpack got to play scion.

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Yup.

Before you'd never hear about these types of things because children of the well to do would get them swept under the rug.

Go back even further, and the children of nobles would duel and fight and fuck whatever they wanted with impunity.

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What kind of person does this? Not only did they trash the apartment, but they willfully endangered someone's life by ripping that gasline off the wall. What's scarier is that there were six "men" (term used lightly) there and not one of them thought, "Hey, this is not behavior I want to be involved with." BC should expel their *sses. Oh, I know, BC probably can't do this because the crimes occurred off-campus, blah, blah, blah, and mommy & daddy have lawyers, blah, blah, blah. But, I'm willing to bet that 30 or 40 years ago something like this would have resulting in these "students" (again, term used lightly) being asked to leave campus permanently.

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I remember my college expelling someone for a sexual assault that didn't take place on campus or at a school-sanctioned event but was heavily tied into the fraternity/sorority scene. The victim was also a student, and the school tried the case through their honor code violation system, found the person guilty, and decided on expulsion. The victim did press criminal charges too, but the school acted within a week or so -- well before the criminal case went anywhere, if it ever did. Any lawyer types know if the school can do something like this? Even if it didn't happen on campus, you'd think the school would at least hear the case in terms of whether these are people who can be safe and respectful to others in a campus environment. Hell, if schools are able to expel students for being suicidal (google it...), why can't they insist these kids get professional help before they can come back?

I'm surprised they weren't charged with any sort of assault/endangerment etc. charge though, for pulling a gas line out and letting an occupied building fill with gas. That sort of charge would make it easier for the school to act, I think. A destruction of property charge puts them on the same legal plane as regular people with basically intact judgment who egged a house or stole a sign or something.

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I went to BC and you could get in trouble for things that happened off campus. On those streets right near the college there were mostly BC students renting (you are only guaranteed 3 years of on campus housing and most students spend their junior and senior year renting). They actually had something called an "off campus RA" who patrolled the streets, and residents could call them and complain about noise etc. I was at a house party once where the off campus RA showed up and people got written up and had to go see the Dean the next morning. I thankfully was working that night...

So I am going to assume there will be something happening. If they don't lose their diplomas (unlikely) they could very likely be given some kind of community services FROM the university. My classmates got stuck volunteering at a haunted house the school put on (so they got off easy, since that sounded pretty fun)

Also that is great that your university actually took action there...that stuff so often goes ignored.

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if they live upstairs from Uncle Crummy's?

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They might have been handing out condoms and safe sex info!

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Comparing vandals to a fundamental belief is ridiculous and shameful. These "people" will get away with what they've done- criminal activity and What potentially could have killed somebody- solely based on a surname.

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Just because it's fundamental doesn't mean it's not worthy of ridicule.

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One group of students is being disciplined for activities that were encouraging their peers to take responsibility for their behavior and its potential effects on others.

The other group was a bunch of thugs who somehow got to their senior year without learning any of the above values of responsibilty for one's actions.

If you ever had anything to do with the Catholic School System, self control is NOT encouraged because IF you can take responsibility and control of your own behavior, you might actually believe that you don't need nuns and churches to tell you what to do to behave your own bad self.

These kids are a classic product of that strain of Catholocism that wants you to think you can't control yourself without the Church.

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I attended/had friends at a mixture of public and Catholic middle and high schools, observed that the baseline for nastiness and crazy acting out was higher among the students at the religious-run institutions. I don't know that it's a general rule, but this angry outburst at BC supports that impression. (This was in suburban Washington DC and Virginia.)

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Just sayin...As a product of parochial school system and the parent of students of parochial school systems, I must say I disagree with your statement, 100%. That is my first hand experience. I am not sure if you are speaking from experience, or second hand knowledge.

Also, if the BC students that handed out condoms weren't there handing out condoms, would that mean fellow students at BC would have no idea about practicing safe sex, or have any other way of getting condoms? Really, these aren't middle schoolers so lets stop treating them as such.

Maybe it was just me but I knew about this stuff in junior high and in fact it was a bit more difficult to get condoms (schools did not pass them out) and we managed. Not sure how any kid now a days doesn't know this stuff by the time they get to college. Really, do any of you know an 18+ year old who doesn't know about safe sex? Do they still need to be taught this stuff in college? Maybe I'm missing something here.

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My husband came home fuming after the school hired this roadshow to come in to his Catholic high school, and:

Tell the girls they are soley responsible for the behavior of the boys, because boys cannot be expected to restrain themselves;

Spread misinformation about STDs, condoms, birth control pills

Spread misinformation about the human body and, particularly, female human bodies and how they work

All in a "hip poppy teen friendly get them all chanting and on the bandwagon" manner.

When he taught there, there was also a lot of "well, students can't control themselves when we aren't around to control them". He was also told directly that his attempts to expect self discipline from the students were not only impossible but he wasn't allowed to enforce rules in ways that created expectation of self discipline - only punishing the class was acceptable.

So, there you have it.

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Again, as a parochial student and parent of parochial school students (k-12). I have never heard of this. Coming from personal experience I still disagree 100% . Curious where your husband went to school, in MA?

I am also curious how many 18+ year olds don't know about condom use. I have not met one yet.

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It's about access too. And correct use, for that matter.

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Access? They had them at CVS even when I was a kid and that was a long time ago. And correct use??? you mean a college kid needs help putting on a condom? Sorry, I still don't get how college kids need "help" obtaining and using condoms in 2013.

And back to Swiryly... I did forget to mention that I have family members who are teachers and principles at catholic schools and none have seen this abstinence show you speak of. That is why I am curious more about your husbands teaching position...not saying I don't believe it, but it's not the norm that I know of..

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Look, it's not as black and white as you are trying to make it out to be. I was an RA (not at BC), I provided condoms to people who otherwise wouldn't have used them due to the access issue. CVS is only a mile down the road? Too far, especially if someone is already waiting in your bed. Not to mention that the cost of condoms can be prohibitively expensive for students with no money.

And all those abstinence classes didn't do a very good job of teaching these kids how to use condoms... and the ones that need to use them are probably not looking up this informational for themselves.

It's still a problem because some people make it a problem. Ahem.

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High school was North of Boston, within the last decade.

Lets just say that the "small classes" and the rest of the "values" they told parents they stood for? No support for those in practice.

Lots of magical thinking that being in a Catholic setting would just magic that stuff into being, though.

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has for all these years?

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these "young men" are using condoms and not making small versions of themselves.

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Jack Dunn, Director of the University’s public and media relations efforts and primary spokesman and strategist, had a lot to say about the condom caper. And this?
silence

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Nice going, Ace.

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and move to Southie. Just look for the BC Eagle flag hanging from the porch.

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Could this be grounds for an attempted murder charge?

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...attempted criminally negligent manslaughter? I am not sure what the laws are in the state regarding that. Plus, that's a mouthful.

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Really?

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The Herald reports we're dealing with an actual Rockefeller here, not some two-bit murdering imposter.

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Yep. So Mommy & Daddy contribute a library or endow a professorship and...no more issues.

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3 from Westchester. 1 from northern Jersey. An odd man out from R.I.

Massholes are tame compared to the trash that comes out of metro NY tristate.

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per the Herald, they got blacked out drunk and went crazy at their friends house.

I’d be surprised if any criminal charges stay. If thats the case this is a civil matter between the assholes, their tenant friend, and the landlord; is it not?

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Some in society say that if a female gets passed-out drunk she is a slut and responsible for anything that happens, including rape, and worry about ruined male futures

Some of those same people would say "but they got blackout drunk and then did this so they aren't responsible", and worry about ruined male futures.

File under "shit that our society needs to get sorted out".

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Just pointing out it sounds like what happened isn't exactly as random as the first story made it seem, and that it might be a civil problem, not a criminal one.

File under "shit that our society needs to get sorted out".

not doubt, but thats nothing new. Hense the term progress.

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for political correctness and the party line/narrative?

Like most people of all ideologies, I would not excuse behavior such as this due to being high and/or drunk. Neither would I say a drunk/high - passed out woman deserves to be assaulted or raped.

That said, BE FULLY AWARE THAT WHEN YOU GET DRUNK/HIGH, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE PRONE TO PASSING OUT, you make yourself very vulnerable, male/female, young/old, any 'race', religion, sexual orientation, etc. It's a sad fact of life that, in fact, many people of all types of backgrounds as I listed above, routinely put themselves in vulnerable, even dangerous, positions. Do they deserve to be victimized? NO, OF COURSE NOT. They might however learn from mistakes and errors in judgement they make so as at the very least not to repeat it.

And no, I'm not a 'neocon', a republican, a Fox news affectionado. Neither am I a leftist true believer. I'm not a 'misogynist'. I'm one of the real majority in this country, not a member of a lunatic fringe ideology on the left and right.

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Do you overreact anytime people point out the obvious because you can't deal with it?

Pointing out the obvious is hardly lunatic fringe ideology.

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of most of your posts, not just this one. You can say I am 'over-reacting', but no, like I previously said, my post which you replied to was really about more than just this Brighton home vandalism story.

Can't deal with this story and the facts surrounding it? I have no idea what you mean by this. I clearly stated what they did was wrong, criminal [at least IMO], and they should be punished accordingly. Why in the world would any sane person say otherwise? If you're suggesting I'm some guy [white guy] who therefore feels compassion towards them and believes they should be cut a break, that's crazy talk. And again, I clearly said no such thing. I have no problem 'dealing' with the facts of this story.

But congratulations. You put me on the defensive.

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They damaged a gas line that could have resulted in death[s]. That gas line is not the property of the tenant, either.

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...all three out of the six that have semi-public profiles on linkedin have internships with ibanks and brokers, which means they are going into finance. Hooray America!

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Why are you so jealous of these valuable job-creators? 8-)

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