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Our neighborhood typically has every last kid combing the place for candy, adults out chatting on street corners, and neighbors greeting neighbors everywhere. It isn't just for the kids - it quickly becomes a neighborhood happening!

My sons used to weigh the loot extracted from our 8 square block neighborhood (area bounded by woods and major streets): typically 6-8 pounds! I turned them loose on their own as soon as the eldest turned seven (see "parents hanging around street corners", above). They went in kid packs from about third grade on.

Too bad too many people have gotten freaky about all sorts of stuff that either never happened or was the result of parents trying to kill their own kids.

What I have noticed: people import their grandkids from the suburbs to trick-or-treat our area, and many kids have their cousins, etc. in tow. Same thing when we lived in Arlington - people moved away, but came back because it was time to visit and their kids could walk between houses.

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They pass out tofu and baby carrots.

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Yeah...those screaming mobs of excited kids thronging every street between Centre St and the pond are definitely there for the tofu. I bet all the kids in your neighborhood come to JP to trick or treat. Oh yeah, and that Lantern Festival? No fun at all...buncha damn hippies! Those Libs have no idea how to have a good time.

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The neighborhood is rather nice on Halloween.

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... have guessed where you live.

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on Halloween was great! We would go out for hours by ourselves and worries be damned. SOmetimes we went back home to drop poff one bag for another. My mom would get kids upon kids well past 9pm. She would dress up as a witch and when I got older made my friends and I run around the yard in sheets. She is still in the house I grew up in all those years ago and now she goets NO ONE. Bums her out. She doesn't even bother to buy candy anymore.

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These things fluctuate--even street by street. I can't imagine where she lives if she gets NO kids (I live on the Roxbury end of things but we still get trick or treaters). The street where I grew up was always dead on Halloween but when a couple of young families moved in they started doing more decorations and goofy stuff and now the whole block is nuts on Halloween. Seems like most of the Halloween action in JP is pond side now but not all of it. Go your mom though--I always loved the grownups who dressed up!

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She is Pond side. The thing is on the street the houses are still mainly owned by the same ppl who were in them when I was growing up. So all the kids have obvioulsy grown up :) But I would think it would still be a prime area to go down. I mean we went everywhere as kids but I don't think parents let their kids do that anymore?? She has said the last 5-6 years have been dead.

Even my house in Rosi - they don't come to our door. They stop at my neighbors and then don't go any further. We go to a friends b/c we love giving out candy. Though this year if it's decent out I think I will sit in my driveway - maybe not as scary as our long walkway:)

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...right near the Conley School, the Halloween candy-seeking visitor count has fluctuated wildly, from year to year, over the past 16 years (we moved in about a week before Halloween). Some years lots of kids, others very few.

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Kids still run wild on Halloween, maybe it's because of our lack of PC helicopter parents.

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In our general neighborhood, the youngest or farthest-afield will have 'rents in tow, but there will be dozens of kids about on their own or with teens acting as titular minders. The street running right front of our house gets a fair amount of car traffic even on Halloween, so there's more grownup supervision along this stretch, but on the side streets parents are less numerous and pretty much just hang out chatting with each other.

(But seriously anon, WRox has a 'lack of PC helicopter parents"? You've ever been to a parent council meeting around here?!)

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JP has a great Halloween scene too though I've got to say, it's hard to beat Beacon Hill for sheer density, crowds and enthusiastic decor. The grownups get wayyyy into it--it's like the best stoop party of the year complete with light and sound effects. And I don't know about the burbs but there are plenty of kids out of their own.

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For the first Halloween in West Roxbury, our street had tons and tons of kids who were having a rollicking good time. I came home around 7:45 and the kids were still going strong.

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I grew up in a bountiful neighborhood for Halloween candy. This was long before so-called "fun sized" candy; many people gave out real full-sized candy bars and lots of other great stuff. However, some people did give out apples, little boxes of raisins, and other undesirables. Many people gave out little paper "trick-or-treat bags" that might contain some loose candy corn, other wrapped or unwrapped candy; sometimes even just popcorn!

After going out earlier in the day, my sisters and I would sort through our initial haul, separating the items that can be re-treated later in the day. Throngs of kids would come to the door, late into the night. When the supply of re-treatable items got really low, those little paper "trick-or-treat bags" could be refilled with anything! We never filled them with anything worse than a few raw vegetables, but the tamper-friendly bags fell out of fashion after other people put some very harmful tricks in them.

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"We never filled them with anything worse than a few raw vegetables, but the tamper-friendly bags fell out of fashion after other people put some very harmful tricks in them."

Bull. The whole poison/needles/razorblades thing is a bunch of nonsense.

https://www.google.com/search?q=snopes+halloween+candy

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I am old enough to remember such things happening every Halloween; it was just one of the dangers kids had to be aware of. The chocolate laxative "Ex-Lax" rewrapped as a Hershey bar was something most kids learned to avoid, but a girl in my fifth grade class was cut by a razor blade hidden in a candy bar. Here are some old newspaper articles about everything from needles in cookies to exploding candy:

1968 Regina Saskatchewan
1966 Groton Connecticut
1967 from Washington Post

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At the risk of sounding like a wet blanket, the difference between the Halloween of old that Suldog describes and the Halloween of today is that somewhere in the past 15-20 years, Halloween has been successfully re-branded from a onetime children's holiday to a full tilt adult holiday, a "season" practically, with all attendant parties, spending and behavior to rival New Year's Eve. When did this happen? And people take it SO seriously. Last year a few days after Halloween I was on a bus and a middle aged man was arguing loudly with someone on a cell phone about how that person had ruined "his" Halloween because "you were supposed to wear a new costume and you wore bits and pieces of old costumes. My whole Halloween was ruined!". I'm not kidding. A middle aged man! Like this was IMPORTANT. Places of business now encourage their employees to come to work in costume. Halloween now seems to be an excuse for grown people to act like total idiots.

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Interesting anecdote, and a perceptive observation, but I don't think it's got anything to do with why a lot of parents are afraid to let their kids out of their sight these days.

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The "re-branding" as an adult holiday is something I'd have explored if my word count wasn't limited. I've harbored that same thought for years.

Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com

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I grew up in a rural area; the only trick or treaters we ever got in the early 1980s was a couple of drunk teenagers who threw a beer bottle through our front window. Living in Roslindale, few people ventured up our steps, but a few blocks over, the street was blocked off and full of kids. Now, back in Westwood, I expect the usual roving bands of neighborhood kids and TP'd houses.

There never was such a thing as "razor apple day," that was always an urban legend and joke on SNL. Of course it is a "different time," but I think kids are safer and adults are having more fun with Halloween than ever. I don't think there is any need to lament some perceived lost innocence time, but rather to reject the fear-mongering that goes on in our media. I'm looking forward to Halloween night with the kids--not to protect them, but because it is fun to see them running from house to house and to chat with neighbors.

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Winthrop still does it right. Most houses are decorated. Little ones with parents early, then unaccompanied 10 year olds, then older kids and teens until you turn the lights off. I give out fill size - even to teens - because, what the heck.

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"Little ones with parents early, then unaccompanied 10 year olds, then older kids and teens until you turn the lights off. "

This is another way Halloween has changed, along with it now being an adult holiday. Why are teens trick or treating? When I was a teen in the early 70s it would have been unheard of to go trick or treating, nor did we want to. We felt (and rightfully so) we had "outgrown" that, and would have been laughed at mercilessly by our peers. And the teens that WERE out trick or treating were looking for trouble, pure and simple. They would just be wearing a mask or something thuggish looking. After the little kids had come and gone, even my generous mother would say "quick, turn out thee lights before the big kids come".

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I used to get freaking PAID to take little ones trick-or-treating!

Most places, though, these "Teens" are at most thirteen ... kids seem to lose interest when they get to High School and such things are, you know, for the LITTLE kids ...

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The kids on our street always used to go trick-or-treating by ourselves, without our parents., and it was lots of fun to dress up in costumes and go around to people's houses. Hallowe'en parties, complete with hot mulled cider and the apple-bobbing contests were fun, as well. Sure, some of the older kids (particularly the boys) would set off firecrackers and/or engage in some vandalism, and we were advised to be careful, and, even out in the 'burbs, my parents always locked their cars on Hallowe'en night, but other than that, it was no big sweat.

When we reached high school, however, we all stopped trick-or-treating on Hallowe'en.

Oh, I also might add that carving pumpkins was fun, too.

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The phrase MY WIFE was posted in lower case..what the hell?

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Alas, concessions have been made in order to get a foot in the door. I assumed that the sight of a capitalized MY WIFE every time I said it in my writings - which is, as you know, often - would have editors sending me the phone numbers of their psychoanalysts rather than paychecks. Rest assured, if I ever reach the point where people mention my name and the people with whom they're speaking nod knowingly instead of going, "Who?", I'll restore MY WIFE to all of her upper case glory.

Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com

P.S. I don't think the preceding paragraph will go a long way towards my reaching that goal, but you know what I mean.

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Thx for the reply; entertaining as always.

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I also see that Halloween evolved into a occasion with plenty of decorations, lights and adults playing as much as kids. I think I prefer the form of Halloween fun that depends on carved pumpkins with candles glowing inside them and the decorations that nature already provides for the season (aka leaves). The business of cardboard ghosts, plastic comic witches, enough lights to rival a modern day Saturnalia, it adds a lot of unnecessary fancy mishigas to something that went along perfectly well with technology as fancy as a pumpkin and candle.

But pumpkins and candles don't provide enough stimulus to CVS, Walgreens, etc. Maybe that is the problem...forcing fun occasions to be vehicles for sales, more sales and yet more sales. Can't wait until Easter is finally neutralized of its religious content, turned into a secular occasion for pastel decorations and lights (more or less there now) and then CVS, et al. can start selling Easter related goods the day after Christmas!!!

I have a business idea: Open a store that sells only stuff for festive occasions. Cover every religious and non-religious aspect and always have ready whatever goods will be needed. Buy your Halloween decorations in February (don't wait for the October rush!) and buy Xmas decorations in May for Xmas 5 years from now (never know if the decorations will sell out before then!)

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I lived in a suburban Hartford CT town until i was 8. Before we moved to New Hampshire in 1984, I remember it being a big deal. Like other have said, parents would stay at a distance and let us walk house to house. Then again, the neighborhood I lived in was very close nit. Mostly new families who moved in the neighborhood in the early 1970s when that community stopped being a summertime/vacation place, to a full time, year-round community (we were on a very large lake). And we all knew each other.

When we moved to New Hampshire in late 1984, it was vastly different. We lived in a very rural area, where houses are 1-2 miles apart, so no real door to door trick or treating. We had some places my parents would DRIVE us too, but for the door to door stuff, we went to a more populous neighborhood.

I've lived all around boston and the burbs so it really can vary from town to town to see what kids do for trick or treating. When I lived in Medford, we had a handful of kids that first year, and none after.

South End. None. The general rule was (after talking to parents) was most people waited on their steps with bowls of candy. If there was no person, and no light on, the kids were instructed not to go.

Revere. When I lived in Revere, the first year we didn't give out candy (again, no light on, no candy given), second year we did, ended up having to go to Walgreens at the end of the street to get more because we had so many kids. Same with third year there. Funny, musta been a lot of out of towners because we kept hearing "oh we're from so and so community, this neighborhood is great, we'll be back next year".

Chelsea. As many kids as there are in Chelsea, and how many I see on my street. Its amazing that kids DONT go door to door. The city pushes the kids down to the businesses on Broadway. I can walk out my front door and not see a soul, but go two streets away to Broadway and its mobbed with kids.

With that said, I also think because of helicopter parents and what not, many folks take their kids to the Malls and business districts now to be safe. Plus I know many communities have a "lit pumpkin" or "exterior lights on" rules. No pumpkin or porch light, don't knock.

Sigh.. days gone by..

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where I live. I know what you mean about the out of towners. For the past 5 or 6 years, I've noticed on my street there will be droves of SUVs and minivans cruising the street, stop and a bunch of kids will get out. Probably will go through about 6 bags of candy.

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be it in urban, suburban, or rural areas, that the "no person/lights/pumpkins, don't go" rule makes great, good sense.

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