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City won't move Long Island programs to closed Radius Hospital in Roxbury

The Globe reports.

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Yay Jason, you win! Congrats! Now let's work on Sober homes!

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At this rate the problem will solve itself as people migrate to other cities which can be bothered to provide services.

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I know it's not an ideal solution, but given how vocal people have been about having these programs move to their neighborhood, would it be crazy to charter (or buy) a large enough boat to resupply the island? And maybe add a stop on one of the commuter ferries for more frequent passenger service?

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Ferry service would be cost prohibitive. (I do not remember the cost estimate, but it was one of the if not the most expensive option.) It would also require infrastructure improvements. In addition, there would then be no way to get on or off the island for a medical emergency, and the ferry would not be able to run in inclement weather.

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Wow. That's a NIMBY comment if I've ever read/heard one.

Just cut all of the bureaucratic BS and rebuild the damn bridge.

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You need to read the open letter to Mayor Walsh that "Jason" posted under the previous article on here.. Your opinion would change.

I'm usually very against NIMBY crappola, but Jason makes some very valid points. That neighborhood has enough, and does not want anymore.

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This will really ruffle the feathers of the good people of Quincy. Hasn't the Naval Air Station Squantum gotten a high scale makeover ? They might nimby it up too !

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http://www.votejed.org/p/basic-facts.html is the URL for Information on the proto-politician who desires and worked hard on redefining Roxbury having only well off folks inhabiting our beautiful area. And he used the Banner to rationalize and to trumpet what he sees as his victory.

Where will this racist and classist movement go? Which population segment will be attacked next? Shall we good Christians allow this trend to spread to other categories of people who live on the valuable Roxbury landscape? I guess Christian, Civil Rights and humanistic values are overrun by greed and the quest for maximum property values obtained in the original "Fair Housing Legislation" that was overtly racist.

The problem originated in the Boston Public Health Commission and the City that did not lobby or provide resources effectively for the repair of the bridge to Long Island. After all, only the homeless were being served.

Others in the community who are under the delusion that they will not be next must reach the awareness that we are all being targeted for exclusion from Roxbury by more economically endowed forces that are slowly engulfing and devouring us.

Today, many of us are on top, but tomorrow, given the trend that the world and national economy are folowing , tomorrow this may not be true and the shoe shall be on the other foot. Be careful who and what perspective you follow.

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Instead of letting my neighbors know about the City's stealth plans, you would rather have had me - the white guy who did not grow up in Roxbury - lecture my black neighbors that they need to be more 'compassionate' to people in recovery??? WOW.

Do my neighbors' investments in this community count for anything? (Financial investments; family investments, time investments, etc.) The neighborhood around Townsend Street and Walnut Ave is coming up, and we have some nice Victorians, but we are not Fort Hill - most neighbors have been here for years and are not gentrifying newcomers.

Guess what? I as initially very torn on the issue and I wrote an open email to the Fort Hill list, and other Roxbury activists & leaders. I'm pretty sure you're a reader of that list. Because I was torn, I deferred to my neighbors and Roxbury LEADERS. I contacted Senator Wilkerson, for example, who has a long record of championing the recovery community in Roxbury. She ended up writing an open email against the city's proposal. Another veteran local elected official, Rep. Gloria Fox, also has a long track record of support for and from the recovery community. She, too, was opposed. I talked to my neighbor next door who has owned for more than 40 years and I talked to another across the park whose been here just as long. And so on.

My beef was more with the City's stealth moves on this. And when I informed and organized neighbors about the city's meeting, the flyer I distributed was this: the City's vague meeting announcement on one side, and the first Banner article on the other. There were no hyperbolic exhortations on the flyer... just the info.!

Meanwhile, at least 2 other contingents of local residents - all African American, but not "upper class" by the way - also organized in the neighborhood for the meeting. 250 signatures against the City's plans were gathered.

Did you even attend the community meeting last week? More than 100 attended. Not one person spoke in favor. At least 2 people self-identified as being in recovery themselves... and OPPOSED the city's plans. Or, how about this resident?:

Even Yvonne Desmond, a senior treatment coordinator for the Boston Division of the Trial Court of Massachusetts — whose job is to find treatment programs for substance abusers in the justice system — spoke against the Radius siting.

“Treatment is important,” she said. “But the programs proposed are not secure facilities. We do not want this in our neighborhood.” - Bay State Banner

I expected my neighbors to oppose the city's plan but I was honestly surprised how strongly they opposed it. There's a long history of community mistrust of the City's dealings in Roxbury... as well as a long history of treatment programs and halfway houses in the community. And, something like 400 people receiving methadone in Dudley Square every day. A long saga. You should talk to more elders and long-time residents in Roxbury.

Anyone else interested in the broad opposition to the Radius plan, read the Banner's article. It gives the full run-down of the meeting...

http://baystatebanner.com/news/2014/dec/10/residents-reject-addiction-pr...

Jed Hresko
103 Townsend Street
(next block from Radius site... where do you live?)

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For many reasons (some possibly legitimate, others less so), the community has decided they do not want this. So, what do you and the other community leaders propose as a means to solve the problem that has been identifed here?

And "but it's not our job to do that" is not a legitimate response.

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@zumbideroxbury

First things first, on behalf of my Roxbury neighbor, let me apologize for the "you're full of it" subject line. THat was unkind and is not representative of all Roxbury residents.

Glad to find your post here. Jed asked me if your post was authored by me. Sadly, I don't think I could match your eloquence. I've lived in Roxbury neighborhoods since I moved to Boston more than 30 years ago as an 18 year old so maybe Jed will let me into the elder/longtime Roxbury resident club. I for one am in support of housing unsheltered and recovering citizens at the old Jewish Memorial hospital so ditto to what you said.

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we don't want it in Dorchester and mattapan either!!!

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"we get it" post above.

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