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Just when you thought Dan Shaughnessy had the stupidest thing to say about the World Cup
By adamg on Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:21am
Along comes Eddie Andelman to tweet:
the 19 million who watched the world cup clearly illustrates the vast number of illegals within the borders of U.S. A.
UPDATE: Andelman has deleted the tweet, but don't worry, he left up the other racist tweets that nobody's called him on yet.
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Please don't give him the publicity he so sorely wants
Aaaaahh, aaaaahhh, aaaahh
I, me, I, fiduciary, ehemmmmm, ehemmmm. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
When you have to hate on soccer, you know you're losing.
In any event, is he talking about last week's match against Portugal (I think that 19M was the number)? If so, then that's even sillier than it sounds, since presumably most of the people watching the US match in the US were cheering for the US (unless, I suppose, there has been a major onslaught of illegal immigration from Portugal that I haven't heard about).
In any event, all of this nonsense is the follow-on to Ann Coulter's silly post last week. I won't link to it on principle, but I will say that I found her great-grandfather comment really, really offensive, as my great-grandfather was not born in the US and you could not find a man who was more proud to be (and become) American.
There is also an irony of the Coulter's argument is bit about the great-grandfathers. Many of them (though at this point of time, declining rapid due to age - but definitely great-great-grandfathers) were soccer fans. There was a time soccer was only second to baseball in popularity.
But unlike MLB, NFL, NBA, and NHL, its equivalent somehow manage to shoot itself in the foot into obscurity. Thus the younger grandfathers and fathers never picked it up.
oh good, he and that vapid snatch otherwise known as Ann Coulter would make a great match.
Then again rumor has it Ann is really a man in drag.. but who knows Eddie may be into that.
For the record...
I'm all for free-wheeling, unfettered discourse online, and salute cybah's right to make vulgar ad hominem attacks against a person only tangentially related to this post.
That said, if 'Ann Coulter' were replaced with 'Hillary Clinton' or 'Elizabeth Warren,' then the PC Brigade would be out in droves with pitchforks and torches. Very disappointed that the outrage machine isn't working today.
That's a hilarious comparison. Coulter is a sharp-witted
bomb-tosser, a skilled charlatan whose job is to inflame a base of rightie half-wits with bigotry of various stripes, mainly racism, xenophobia, and homophobia. I don't imagine she believes half the hateful, inflammatory BS she spews, but she makes a tidy living from it. She's a clown entertaining clowns.
Comparing her to serious, accomplished academics and politicians like Warren and Clinton because both have ardent fans at opposite ends of the political spectrum is kind of adorable in its naivete.
I believe what Lunchbox was
I believe what Lunchbox was trying to say, is that even though most of us probably consider Ann Coulter to be vile and dispicable, that's not a free pass for misogynist and transphobic comments.
She used Warren and Clinton as examples because they're women, not because they are on par with Coulter intellectually, socially, politically, etc.
If that's the point that Lunchbox was trying to make,
then I agree.
I lost my capacity for outrage at Coulter's comments long ago: she's a barking circus performer, a trained seal on a unicycle, not a legitimate political analyst, and only the thickest and most hateful righties take her seriously.
But it's never appropriate to denigrate someone, however cynical their exploitation of bigotry, with bigoted language. It's especially surprising to hear from someone who has undoubtedly been at the receiving end of similarly ugly, phobic speech.
Ann Coulter chose to run her mouth about soccer being unamerican.
That's not tangential - that's referential.
Although we could do without the "must be a transperson" comments, because there is nothing wrong with that if she is. I don't care to speculate what her "true" gender is, and don't care if she chooses to present as female. It doesn't matter - she's a vile human being regardless of chromosome arrangement or packaging, and that's all that matters.
Tangent, but dressing in drag
Tangent, but dressing in drag does not automatically make someone a member of the 0.01% or so of the population that suffers from gender identity disorder.
But, again, it is irrelevant.
Ann Coulter presents as female, so she's female for all that it matters in public. It doesn't matter why she chooses to present as female, or whether her parts or genes match. She's still a massive douchebag, irrespective of packaging.
You could be trying to get a Section 8 to get out of having been drafted into the Korean War.
I hate Ann Coulter
I hate Ann Coulter
I'm not PC (and most of you should understand that by now)
I'm also a homosexual male
I'll call someone whatever I see fit, and considering how she trashes everything and everyone, she deserves it.
But thanks for expressing your opinion. It means as much to me what you had for dinner last night. Thanks again! *smile*
PS - Save your rebuttal for someone who cares, because I just don't give a rats ass.
Well, then you should enjoy this!
I have a Republican strategist as a client. Pretty big one. Anyhoo, they tell me that in a drunken moment of reflection, Ann Coulter once confided to them that she'd give every penny back just to get people to stop spitting on her at airports.
Which is nice.
Which has to be a lie
Because every time she opens her mouth, she doubles down on the last thing she said.
Even when they are shooting the shit, never trust what a Republican strategist tells you.
Gonna bet that a)
no one has ever actually spit on Ann Coulter in an airport -- it's just one of her many ugly fairy tales, another ridiculous fantasy of liberal bogeymen; and
b) she'd gladly endure buckets of actual hate-saliva to earn the hundreds of thousands of dollars she's made off of gullible, hateful right-wing chumps, probably feels a little guilty at how easy it is. Bet she's the crying-on-the-inside kind of clown.
I don't know...
That crack she made about 9/11 widows I'm sure got her a few loogies in NYC.
Reporting for duty!
PC Brigade member here! It's pretty lousy to use that word to describe anyone, regardless of the horrible views she espouses. You're better than that, cybah.
How about YOU?
You're a Putz.
Now you know where the idiot Andelman boys' racist shtick
that they used to freely ply on their cancelled radio show comes from. Though in fairness, you'd think Dave would be more empathetic to people whose skin tone is shaded darker than the average white person's.
Restaurant Industry Shills
The Andelman boys are at their worst, and that's saying something, when their corpo masters are threatened. Their unstinting, ham-handed (pun intended) opposition to increasing the minimum tipping wage from it's current $2.63/hour to something reasonable is as whore-like a performance as you're likely to see anywhere around here.
Shaughnessy = HACK
Shaughnessy = HACK
So Andelman = racist hack?
So Andelman = racist hack?
that more people attended the World Cup TV showing on City Hall Plaza than went to his Phantom Gourmet festival at the same location?
And they all own food trucks just to fuck with his family's ability to love brick-and-mortar restaurants.
Viva la futbol y taco trucks!
Conservatives love planting
Conservatives love planting their flags on the most idiotic of positions
Guess no one will be going to
Guess no one will be going to his hot dog safari , Eddie was a hoot when he was sporting though.
I wonder if Andelman's parents were born in this countray
They're all from Chelsea
They're all from Chelsea
Tons of soccer fans in
Tons of soccer fans in Chelsea.
Growing up in NH soccer was
Growing up in NH soccer was fairly popular and it had nothing to do with liberals and/or conservatives. Not everything has to be politicized. How warped some people have become.
in Mass schools....
I don't know about everyone else, but soccer was omni-present in primary school and junior high when I was kid. My cousin played in high school, there were adult leagues in my city.
So my guess, pretty much every american kid plays it in PE, then? unamerican my foot....ball.
Referencing these parts (northeast U.S.)
I think the big interest and crowds in futbol paralles the ascendancy of especially our Latino/Hispanic population from formerly mostly Caribbean islander to Central American. Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, and Mexicans love their futbol, unlike Puerto Ricans and Dominicans (the traditional Latino population in the northeast) and baseball. And our large Brazilian populations adds to it.
Immigration is not the whole picture
Another HUGE part of it is that we have a large, US-born age cohort reaching adulthood, many of whom were the source of great handwringing and whining when they took a pass on little league in favor of the many massively popular multitudes of youth soccer leagues in the US.
Anybody remember that bit of whining about UNAMERICAN soccer causing t-ball teams to falter? It was all the rage amongst the wingnut pundit set about 10-15 years ago.
Add in those of us middle-aged folk who both played as kids and coached all these youth soccer teams as adults, and all the grandparents who were at each and every game ...
You were responding to my post
and I said part of the popularity now of futbol (soccer), and world cup here us the huge influx of Central Americans. Part of the reason. I'm aware soccer has become popular,especially among pre hs kids, for generations now, and this has carried over into adulthood.
Even the Andelmans are capable of feeling shame, apparently,
which I didn't think was possible. Eddie's xenophobic tweet has been deleted from his Twitter feed.
Dan must have put down
Dan must have put down whatever ooey-gooey culinary monstrosity he was stuffing his pie hole with long enough to clean up after pops.
I don't get why republicans
I don't get why republicans are so focused on complaining about soccer. I don't watch it but I don't care if others do, why do republicans feel that they need to spew so much hatred towards people who do watch it?
Because if they didn't spew hate, they wouldn't be Republicans!
MLK was a republican. Wise up.
Did I really have to put "2014" in front of the word "republicans" for you to get it? Of course I did.
Wikipedia: "Although King never publicly supported a political party or candidate for president, in a letter to a civil rights supporter in October 1956 he said that he was undecided as to whether he would vote for Adlai Stevenson or Dwight Eisenhower, but that "In the past I always voted the Democratic ticket.""
Unlike your comment, that is cited and even linked in Google Books.
Find a locked padded room
Throw him in with Ann Coulter and the rabid biting Uruguayan.
Lock the door and walk away.
That would be FUN!!!!
I'm behind the biter!
To bend an old lawyer joke to the task at hand...
Q. You're locked in a padded room with Eddie Andelman, Ann Coulter, and the biting Uruguayan. You have a gun, but only two bullets. What do you do?
A. Shoot Ann Coulter twice.
...Eddie was known as a fat slobbering ugly idiot. Now we know he's a racist too. Does ANYBODY have any respect at all for any member of this family?
I've changed my World Cup
I've changed my World Cup allegiance - I'm now rooting for whatever team will have the largest number of brown people honking horns and lighting fireworks in Eddie's neighborhood.
Hilarious! Me too!
Hilarious! Me too!
Go Diversity! Go new Boston! Bye bye old Boston!
- The Original SoBo Yuppie
comparing his (boss/Don Zimmer, it's not clear from the context) to Chiang Kai-shek "racist"?
Absolutely Not Racist
No racism whatsoever there. Folks who have no understanding of the context are adding that log to the fire because they automatically assume any reference to a non-white, by Andelman, must somehow be hideous.
During Don Zimmer's tenure as Red Sox manager, Andelman (and his Sports Huddle partners, Mark Witkin and Jim McCarthy) continually came down hard on the skipper. Despite the fond farewells given Zimmer recently, he was reviled by some (including me) when he managed the Sox.
In sporting context, Andelman often spoke truth to power. There was much pressure to NOT constantly berate Zimmer - to stop using his name - so Andelman began referring to Chiang Kai-Shek, a bizarre and ludicrous piece of absurdist "code" that he, his partners and his listeners, all employed during time on-air.
The folks who enjoy badgering Andelman now were probably not alive during his heyday. He was actually considered - again, in sports - a radical; a great friend of the fan and defender of same. What may have transpired since those days may be another story, but dragging his name through the mud for "Chiang Kai-Shek" is bubbleheaded nonsense.
You only replied to one of
You only replied to one of the posts called racist, please defend the rest of them including the most recent one about soccer/illegals.
It helps if you read the entire thread. I was replying to the question directly above my post.
Because you said dragging his
Because you said dragging his name through the mud for the zimmer thing is nonsense, which was only one of four tweets the person was saying were racist, so you are being disingenuous/untruthful when you say people are dragging his name through the mud for 1 racist (or in your world not racist) tweet. Fine , but there are 3 other racist tweets , defend those as well or take back saying people are dragging his name through the mud for this one thing.
Again, Read Everything
Especially, read the LAST sentence of what I said in the longer post. It's very clear.
Defense on one charge does not become invalid just because other charges MAY be true. If you don't understand that, well, you're an idiot.
More of Eddie Andelman's high-larious Twitticisms
Courtesy of the Globe. Now you know where his also painfully unfunny, also bigoted sons get it.
Reading comprehension much?
Reading comprehension much?
I'm sure I heard the Chiang
I'm sure I heard the Chiang Kai-Shek thing when I was a kid, but I guess I forgot about it.
Another one of the supposedly "racist" tweets was a play on the Spanish tendency for Spanish-named athletes to have 4 or 5 names, so he made up a name and stuck Goldberg at the end, a variation of the old Sport Huddle "-and Epstein" gag.
Not exactly a gag, though
Brazil and Argentina are fairly diverse places (Che Guavera had Irish grandparents ...), and some names do end up like that. I've had coworkers and fellow students with such unusual names, owing to the traditions of keeping a mother and a father's surnames attached and picking and choosing family names as first and multiple middle names.
Take the actual name of a person I worked with, a Jew who hailed from Brasil (modified here for ethnic consistency without actually identifying the person): Morton Mauricio Nelson Silverman do Braga.
Telling an ethnic joke is racist. Unless you're a part of the ethnic group and you're making a self-effacing joke then it obviously isn't. Of course, that wasn't the case 50 years ago when Elder Andelman started in radio, but then again neither were mass-produced electric cars. The world moves on. Please do try to catch up with the rest of us.
It must be wonderful in your
It must be wonderful in your world where this is what gets you upset.
Doesn't upset me
I consider the Andelmans to be the jokes. I don't let shitheels phase me because I know that the history of the world shows they end up falling by the wayside eventually.
Unfair comparison to Dan.
For all the hell we give Dan, and all the crap he's written over the years, make no mistake, Dan is completely aware of what he does and who he is, what his job is, and how to go about doing it. He's also still capable of incredible, top notch writing when the urge hits him, rare though that may be. Dan does what he does so we can react to it as we do. Write him an email about one of his columns, and you are still almost certain to get a response, even if only a word or 2. He knows what he's doing, whether we like what he does, or not.
Eddie's just old, hardened, unable to even consider that things can change. He can't conceive that the thoughts, words, and ideas he's spouted for a lifetime may now be out-dated, or that some of them may have been wrong all along.
CHB's new motto
"Not as bad as Eddie Andelman".