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Maybe this week we'll find out where the city plans to put a new homeless shelter
By adamg on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 7:43am
With Long Island shut for the next X years, the plans for Frontage Road abandoned in favor of a soccer stadium or something and the abandoned Radius Hospital off the table, Mayor Walsh is promising he'll announce a new location for a quasi-permanent place for homeless programs this week.
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Two million in OT for cops to
Two million in OT for cops to keep the protesters safe... that could have gone toward a shelter for the homeless. Think about it.
Don't think about it
Yeah, and there are about a million other things the city could have cut or done differently in order to build the new homeless shelter.
The protests are reasonable exercises constitutional rights against what people think are abuses of power by the state.
How do you explain the tax breaks given to LogMeIn to move their headquarters from one part of Boston to another? (Boston has given 31.5 million in tax breaks to just three companies according to the linked UHub post.) That could have also funded a new homeless shelter. Where is the constitutional right for corporations to have lower taxes? A whole lot more is spent on corporate welfare then the social type.
blocking highways is
blocking highways is reasonable?
THANK YOU! LIKE x1000
I wish I could like this post more than just once. I wholeheartedly agree with this. Budgets are tight enough as is, and we're giving corporations more tax breaks?
One part of a Boston?
More like directly across the street. The Mayor needs to end corporation and developer welfare now.
Close but no cigar
@BostonDog makes a very valid point regarding tax breaks for those companies and that is something that should be investigated and ultimately corrected by both the State and Municipal Administration.
Nonetheless nobody has a constitutional right to break the law. There is a clear difference between legal protests and what we have been seeing not only here in Boston, but many other cities across the country. Blocking traffic, protesting on public property(such as Malls) and blocking on/off ramp exits are all illegal acts that are frankly unacceptable. These actions thus far are having the largest negative impact on the very people that many of the protesters claim to be supporting. What does Mr. and Ms. Middle Class have anything to do with all of this stuff? Why would you shut down traffic and make them late for work, late to pick up their children and make it difficult for emergency vehicles to get to where they need to be? I thought this was about the large money hungry corporations, crooked cops and Politicians that don't get it? None of these protests thus far have done anything to impact actual legislation, but it has impacted our tax reserves. Where do you think the money to pay for all of strain on municipal services(extra police and trash collection for example) is going to come from? When your neighborhood roads aren't salted as much and the snow plows are coming down your street as often during the storms we will get this year, you can thank the illegal protests for that.
You want to protest then do it the right way and the legal way. Have everyone involved send an abundance of e-mails to the administration, call the numbers of all of your other elected officials and protest at the public buildings that actually are responsible for legislation such as the State House and City Hall. Those are both public buildings that are conducing public business that our tax dollars pay for. It would be a hell of a lot more productive to make your voices heard to the very people who are in charge of changing the laws that will ultimately make the kind of difference the protesters claim to be protesting against.
Anything that is outside of the actions listed above is very difficult to be taken as anything less than misguided and wasteful. I mean come on now think about it. If you are upset over some Cops potentially abusing their power, the way to change their practices is not to create a scenario where they are making over $2Million extra dollars for the holiday season.(That is exactly what they are making in overtime as a result of the illegal protesting) That is poor planning and even worse execution.
*Please note there is a difference between illegal and legal protests. By no means am I against protesting, but I am against actions that clearly don't make sense.*
In a way their actions do
In a way their actions do make sense. Protesting in manner you outlined would probably receive way less media attention and given the state of our government not much is accomplished through a series of emails.
Also, the argument about the allocation of resources being wasted to monitor the protest should be further incentive for the government to actually do something in response to reason why these protest have started instead of waiting for the topic to die down.
Anon 1013 am ,
Anon 1013 am ,
Why punish Boston ? I heard the good Reverend Rivers on TV ,
"Rivers said Boston has one of the best police departments in the United States, and others could learn from the department’s example of building relationships with black clergy."
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/12/14/keller-large-rev-eugene-rivers-on-...
I don't see it as a
I don't see it as a punishment for Boston. The protest shows solidarity for the cause and not a specific protest again the Boston police. Even if the Boston police make an effort against brutality and excessive force, the protest helps to raise awareness about the issue in this country.
That's your perception. But
That's your perception. But think about it from a Boston cop's point of view,
think about it from the view
think about it from the view of the families that lost someone they loved due to police brutality......
Exactly the point.
"These actions thus far are having the largest negative impact on the very people that many of the protesters claim to be supporting. What does Mr. and Ms. Middle Class have anything to do with all of this stuff? Why would you shut down traffic and make them late for work, late to pick up their children and make it difficult for emergency vehicles to get to where they need to be?"
The protests are intended to make the white middle class aware of how "inconvenient" it is to be a person of color in this country. To think about things like a job and child care and safety of your children that you take for granted, but we think about every day and are never sure if they'll be suddenly ripped away from us by systemic racism.
If you're more outraged by traffic being blocked than by racism, you're part of the problem.
Actually
I'm more outraged by the 300+ unsolved murders in Boston over the past 10 years, but that's just me.
Go back to the Herald
Sorry, Vaughn, since the Herald has been obsessed with the 300 unsolved murders in the city over the past 10 years, I assume that's where you are from. Okay, you are from Roslindale, but you get the drift.
Some credit
I was concerned about the unsolved murder rate and when looking for the stats did find and use the 300 over 10 year figure from the Herald. I don't share their editorial political views at all, but it's a real problem, isn't it? Why should anyone be ok with that many unsolved murders?
Credit given
I was posting on some other place here about editorial slant and I mentioned this obsession the Herald has with urban crime and the populist origins of the obsession. Taking things and assumptions at face value, one would think that the Globe would be the ones running with this one, but they're not. The Herald has spent a lot of time on this. From time to time they interview families of the fallen.
But they still have their EBT obsession, too, so feel free to disparage the columnists in the tabloid.
LOL @ your form of protest.
LOL @ your form of protest. "Send stern emails"
Those breaking laws are arrested
So, your point is?
Walking in the street isn't against the law. Protesting isn't against the law. Gathering in large numbers isn't against the law.
If they were, we should arrest any and all drivers caught in rush hour traffic, by your logic. Too many cars clog streets and block traffic, too.
"Where is the constitutional
"Where is the constitutional right for corporations to have lower taxes? A whole lot more is spent on corporate welfare then the social type."
- By BostonDog on Mon, 12/15/2014 - 8:24am
I am pretty sure these lower taxes are negotiated, and corporations just go to the best deal for their operational needs. It's part of economic stimulation. Look at Northern Ave , what it used to look like , if you can remember, and what it will look like. Myself , I liked it better the old way , but it was commercially dying and became desolate. Whole lot of stimulating going on down there. As I said , suits me just fine if the A&P fish house was still there, and a few cheap beer and ball joints where most people wouldn't dare to be at.
Where do you get the numbers for corporate vs. social welfare ? Is there a Constitutional right for welfare ?
The options for the homeless housing , beyond fixing the bridge ( now that it has become a big issue , don't you think the people of Quincy , maybe Marina Bay $$$$$ , might become obstructional ? ) are not being determined by fiscally responsible methods , but how can we get away with this thing in this place , money be dammed.
Corporations
are people. Just ask Mitt.
Sorry to have offended you
Sorry to have offended you with my comments about how to help kids from a tough neighborhood in Boston.
This should be interesting,
This should be interesting, he can't win whatever he does. I am curious , now that Radius has been rejected , what do you think will it turn into? Medical use age , or developed for housing , or just abandoned?
Moth-balled
and eventually turned into long term low income senior housing.
The RedSox could step up to
The RedSox could step up to the plate and host the homeless at Fenway Park throughout the off season. It's not like John Henry can't afford it right?
The empty city owned Charlestown Battalion Armory might work too. It's a big bunkhouse to begin with.
CHARLESTOWN—The BRA also said
CHARLESTOWN—The BRA also said yes to the redevelopment of 374-398 Bunker Hill Street (a.k.a. the Charlestown Battalion Armory). It will house 42 condos as well as 84 car and 42 bike spaces. [BRA]
http://boston.curbed.com/archives/2014/05/parcel-k-ok-charlestown-battal...
Didn't think that would ever fly , that property was just too potentially viable $$$$$ .
2 parking spaces per Condo in
2 parking spaces per Condo in Charlestown?
Sure , why not ? Not
Sure , why not ? Not everybody can walk to the shipyard for work, need cars to get to work....
BIKE
BIKE!!!!
*ducks*
What about the guy that
What about the guy that drives for S & S in Freetown , starts work at 2 am ? Those are real jobs too !Maybe he has lived in C Town his entire life , sold his 3 decker on Bunker Hill street , and wants to remain in St. Francis parish. Might have even drank in the Celtic tavern or JJ McCarthy's.
Excuses
What a cop-out. I had high hopes for Marty, but a year in, I'm not impressed. The only thing he's managed to do is shake up the BRA, the results of which remain to be seen.
Marty Walsh
is nothing more then a glorified bagman.
Will the shelter be permanent or not?
Mayor Walsh has said it'll be a permanent shelter and not a permanent shelter.
Dude, focus
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/12/14/walsh-said-new-shelter-for-l...
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/12/13/bridge/CKX45L7z1CXdtMmsYkXP...
Well , take a guess, where ?
Well , take a guess, where ? I'd vote Morton street , on Shattuck or Boston State Hospital , properties.
What was the problem with Frontage Road?
It's not IN any neighborhood. There are no people anywhere near there. I-93 is between it and any place where other people live. Putting it there would have had zero impact on anyone else.
"Near"?
While the location isn't immediately adjacent to anyone's home, there is housing and businesses a block away, so "no people anywhere near" is a bit of a misnomer. It also would have been all of two blocks from a current homeless shelter (PSI).
But the problem isn't the facility itself, but what happens during the day. Those at the facility without jobs or programs to take their time during the day often end up in the neighborhoods, where is where most of the residents' concerns come from.
Contrary to the articles though, The South End and South Boston weren't as up in arms as the Roxbury community - we were working with the city to make sure security concerns were addressed, and that the facility was indeed temporary. There's a bit of a problem at the Mayors press office in that incorrect information is being released to the press...
While we are on the subject
While we are on the subject of taxes I would hope my taxes aren't going up soon especially where not only these corporations but the local colleges in boston get big tax breaks as well. Someone ought to check and see what the land cost the church across from the Reggie Lewis center when the former mayor was in office ? While they are at it see if they are paying taxes for it too ?
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Posted: Dec 16, 2014 7:15 AM EST
Updated: Dec 16, 2014 7:15 AM EST
Photo by Matthew Woitunski
Photo by Matthew Woitunski
BOSTON (MyFoxBoston.com) The City will begin building a new homeless shelter in the next few weeks.
The announcement comes comes after the abrupt closing of the Long Island Shelter on Boston Harbor in October. The new facility will take over a soon-to-be renovated building on South Hampton Street and will host more than 450 people.
Mayor Marty Walsh says he expects about 100 homeless people to be able to move into the space mid-January.
The City is moving quickly to attain all necessary permits to get the place up-and-running.