BC reports Chipotle norovirus numbers pass 120

Boston College's University Health Services reports:

More than 120 BC students have reported to BC Health Services with symptoms consistent with the Norovirus. Nearly all cases are related to students who ate at the Chipotle restaurant in Cleveland Circle during the past weekend.

In response to the spread of the virus, BC has taken several steps, including shutting down all on-campus salad bars and other self-service food offerings.

The Boston Public Health Commission reported yesterday that several people not affiliated with BC also show symptoms of the illness. City inspectors shut the burrito place in part because a sick employee was allowed to continue on the job.

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A family member ate at a

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A family member ate at a Chipolte in Saugus last week and as soon as he was done felt very ill.

He felt better the next day but he was very concerned he got food poisoning as it hit him like a brick wall not long after he finished his burrito. Stomach pains and the works!

I can't help but think this location also had an issue and I implore him to notify this particular store.

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most of the time

you won't display symptoms immediately from the type of stuff we're talking about here

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Not from them

Neither norovirus nor food poisoning will make you sick immediately. If your family member had "stomach pains and the works!", it most likely had to do with something that happened at least a day before.

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That happens to me if I eat

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That happens to me if I eat the guacamole from Chipotle. I've eaten at Chipotle probably 20 times, but the two occurrences I opted to add guacamole were terrible. I had bad cramping and pains for a couple of hours after. Interesting to hear that this might have happened to someone else.

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Norovirus(es) sucks.

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Timing couldn't be much worse for the kids given that it's exam time.

I wonder whether this is having a significant negative effect on the other food establishments in Cleveland Circle - anyone hear anything?

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I had an employee who got Norovirus a couple years back.

He called me to tell me he would not be able to make it to work. He was crying on the phone as he was describing how he soiled himself while he was getting sick in the bathroom. He was very embarrassed by the situation. (His doctor confirmed the norovirus a couple of days later)

Later that night I was driving home and I remembered the conversation from that day. I started laughing to myself because it was very funny at the time.

My worker got his revenge later that night, when at about 3am I just about made it to my own bathroom before exploding. Thankfully the shower was right there, where I stripped my underpants, showered, and went back to bed.

I almost needed the CDC and ServePro to clean my bathroom.

Lesson learned. Never make fun of somebody else's misfortune.

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it concerns me

that your employee felt it necessary to have his doctor tell you exactly what was wrong with him

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His doctor didn't confirm it with me.

His doctor confirmed it with him directly. He (my employee) told me about it. We were comparing notes after the damage was done. I never bothered with the doctor myself but can only assume we both had the same illness.

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because

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The employee did the right thing which is get a doctors note.

Which you're suppose to do to SYA when calling out sick so you wont be fired for missing a shift.

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yes.

i read what you said, and it still doesn't change what i said. you didn't act like a complete asshole, i've been made aware of that now. it doesn't in any way change the sentiment i've since expressed after you clarified what happened.

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i made it clear

that i realized i misunderstood what he said, but also said that the sentiment i was conveying was something i stand by- that employers should not seek out nor have a right to that information. what the blue fuck is difficult to understand about that. please, fire away any questions you have and i will gladly clarify my position if necessary.

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and what does you

meta-posting about my talking about doctors have to do with the thread

even less than my posting about doctors

yeah lets keep going in circles idgaf

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Yes, well..

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It's par for the course.

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We are a small outfit

I have never asked an employee for a doctors note. If you are sick, take the time off. I don't want to get sick and don't need any other staff getting sick. We are all adults here. If somebody needs time for any personal issue, they take it. I trust them not to take advantage, and in 15 years of business nobody has.

But you are right. Doctors notes are good. Especially in larger organizations.

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Yes

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I typed up my reply right as you typed yours. When I clicked refresh, your reply was there.

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Which causes MORE health problems

If you are sick, going to the doctor for illnesses that have no treatment other than rest, fluids, etc. can simply take a one person misfortune and turn it into an epidemic! My doc had a message that patients should not come in during the H1N1 epidemic unless they were experiencing complications - for this very reason.

The demand for doctor notes for every little bug or illness causes two problems: 1) sick people go to work or "tough it out" and make everyone sick and, 2) sick people go to the doctor for things that the doctor can do little or nothing about just to get the note, and make other people sick.

So glad that I work in a place where an employee was nearly fired for coming in sick, but staying home sick was a matter of personal discretion and encouraged.

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So what do you do?

When you are violently ill (like my employee) and do not know what the illness is?

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Call the Doctor

Ask for a consultation. I called during H1N1 and the nurse on duty asked a bunch of questions, then gave me criteria for calling back or visiting the ER and e-mailed me information on how to handle symptoms.

I've called about myself or my kids when we have had what is pretty obviously noro come through but are concerned about food poisoning - and gotten the same screening and advice without a visit.

In many situations, just the effort to get to the doctor makes things worse, and then you expose other people and there isn't any prescription or anything the doc can do but tell you how to handle symptoms and when to go to the ER.

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Swirls

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I do agree however..

Many employers suck, especially retail/food service ones (I've worked for enough of them). A note saves your ass, especially if you are *really* sick and you're out for a few days.

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Not blaming the worker

Blaming the stupid employers and school administrators (yes, Meffuh, that's you) who demand this form of tribute.

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The problem is....

...some people abuse sick days.

Like someone noted above about his workplace, we're all responsible adults and if someone is sick, he wants them to stay home. I'd say the same thing about where I work - we're all responsible adults, we will stay home when sick, and come to work if not sick. Simple.

The key phrase here is "responsible adults". There are some people for whom that is a foreign concept. Some people, mostly in the public sector, have 10-15 sick days, and can even accumulate them over the years. Some people look at sick days as extra vacation days and abuse it. Abuse leads to things like doctor's notes.

Some even have a heightened sense of entitlement with regards to sick days. They feel that sick days are their days to do whatever they wish. Sorry, but that's not the deal, and these people ruin it for others.

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Sick days?

Not all part-time workers in retail food service have paid sick days. Our state laws are relatively good on the matter, but accrual of official earned sick time is slow, 1 per 30. If an employee at Chipotle were hired in September and worked part time he might not yet have accrued enough earned sick time to take a sick day yet.

It's not entitlement if you work sick because otherwise you don't get paid and your electricity might get shut off or you might miss the rent payment. It's just poverty.

Back in the day when I remember being told I couldn't take a day off unless I covered my shift. I'm sure that still happens too, even though it's probably as illegal now as it was then. Food service isn't an industry known for its legal compliance.

If we want to stop norovirus outbreaks at fast-food restaurants, we would need to ensure that every single employee is eligible and able to take a sick day when s/he is sick.

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But...

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If you are sick, going to the doctor for illnesses that have no treatment other than rest, fluids, etc. can simply take a one person misfortune and turn it into an epidemic!

That's fine as long as you know about self-care. Most people don't. When most people get seriously ill, particularly in a way they've never been ill before, they're likely to head to the doctor.

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Can Mitchell Garabedian be far behind?

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A wealthy, semi-Catholic institution and dozens claiming illness? I wonder if Mitchell Garabedian and the lawyers are on campus yet. Interesting that the illness struck on a weekend. Was the Mexican food mixed with any intoxicating liquors? When will the next victim claim to have been sickened in a "hot-air balloon" like the McMartin case.

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Huh?

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Huh?
And they are related how??

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