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Man who wants to be a Boston cop sues city, state for sex discrimination
By adamg on Sun, 01/18/2015 - 1:11pm
John Caulfield, who passed the Civil Service exam for police officer in 2011, says Boston Police Department bypassed him two years later to offer spots at the police academy to women who scored lower on the test.
In a lawsuit filed last week in US District Court, Caulfield says BPD wanted to recruit at least 10 women that year and that this
In March 2013, BPD requested a selective certification of female candidates for appointment to the police academy. [The state Human Resources division] approved and issued the certification. In doing so, Defendants expressly afforded one gender a preference in hiring over another and violated federal and state antidiscrimination statutes as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.
Caulfield wants the city to knock it off, put him at the top of the next list of academy recruits and pay him compensatory and punitive damages and attorneys' fees.
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All animals are created equal
but some animals are more equal than others.
You said animals,did you mean people?
.
Animal Farm
By George Orwell. Ever read it? This is a quote.
He should try
for the BFD. They seem to have no problem employing more white males. http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/01/17/firefighters-sworn-into-bost...
There is a Firefighter
There is a Firefighter Physical Ability Test (PAT) Events involved .That might have something to do with the male bumper crop.
http://www.mass.gov/anf/employment-equal-access-disability/civil-serv-in...
What about
the white bumper crop?
Male , you trying to stir
Male , you trying to stir something up ?
City of Boston Qualifications
At The Time of The Test
You must be at least nineteen (19) years of age at the time of the application deadline and be younger than thirty-two (32) at date of the exam.
You must be a resident of the City of Boston at least one (1) year prior to the examination date to qualify for residency preference. Applicants who have resided in the City of Boston for an entire twelve month period immediately preceding the date of examination are entitled to be placed on the eligible list for Boston ahead of any non-residents.
For Appointment
Pass a written test for Fire Fighter administrated by the State.
Pass a Physical Abilities test administrated by the State.Pass a character background investigation.
Meet medical fitness requirements.
Have a valid Massachusetts driver's license.
Pass a drug test.
Pass a psychological exam.
Be a non-smoker.
Or is this what you want ,
FDNY drops physical test requirement amid low female hiring rate
http://nycfirewire.com/fdny-drops-physical-test-requirement-amid-low-fem...
Relax...
That chip on your shoulder is showing. As well as your irrational hatred of white people.
If a firefighter has to rely on someone who may
or may not be able to drag hose through a burning building or may or may not be physically able to do the job but for a quota then screw the quota. If a person is physically able to do the job then they are embraced and welcomed if not they present a danger to their fellow firefighters lives. We don't need that risk in order to make some people feel good.
Why are you talking about
Why are you talking about firefighters? This thread has nothing to do with firefighters. Stop blowing your dog whistle, you're off topic.
The thread was diverted by
The thread was diverted by this, Go to the top of the thread.....
He should try
By Kathode (not verified) on Sun, 01/18/2015 - 3:58pm
for the BFD. They seem to have no problem employing more white males. http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/01/17/firefighters-sworn-into-bost...
This thread thing is
confusing.
If you take a black and white
If you take a black and white guy being exactly equal in all other aspects, the black guy will get hired to the BPD and BFD every time. Don't be stupid.
"Don't be stupid."
"Don't be stupid."
*looks slyly around the room, devilish smirk, activated trap card*
Practice what you preach.
"If you take a black and white." Google is your friend.
"The state's eight most ethnically and racially diverse communities are still policed by a corps of predominantly white officers" Boston Globe 9/2/2014
"Of the state’s most diverse municipalities, Boston’s police department is by far the most representative of its city’s demographics, though the department has struggled to diversify its upper ranks. Black residents make up just over a quarter of the city’s population and make up 23.2 percent of the police force. Asians and Latinos are slightly underrepresented."
This doesn't delve
into what sub-jobs within the police department everyone was after. If a lower-scoring female candidate wanted to work in a unit that handles sex trafficking and sex assault that needs female officers to handle mostly female victims, that would be entirely acceptable to pass over a better-qualified male for a woman. Or if the "less qualified women" had language skills or community connections needed to serve as liasons in an at-risk community (say, a woman who speaks a language and is able to go around modesty issues in immigrant communities where women cannot speak to men freely.)
However, if they both just wanted to write parking tickets and drink their Dunkin coffee while staring at road construction, then more power to John with his suit.
Yes
And there are many factors considered in addition to the exam for entrance; the exam only gets you through the first doorway. Work experience, technology skills, psychological soundness, education, and as you point out, a second language, can push a candidate ahead.
This isn't the place for anonymous MRA screeds
Sorry, but, no. If you think the issues raised by this suit are symptomatic of efforts by women to emasculate men, no, go find some gamergate kids to commiserate with.
There are quotas
Sorry, I meant benchmarks, quotas are illegal ;)
Not on the
BFD, apparently.
please explain these
please explain these buzzwords
MRA and such
MRA = Men's rights activists, who believe that poor, poor men are a totally trampled upon group in society and that women suck.
Gamergate = Same idea, but instead of women in general, they focus on women involved in video games and seem to relish the idea of ruining their lives through death threats, exposing their private information, etc.
You can learn more about both by Googling them.
Some people like myself
believe no one demographic should have, under the law, preferential treatment, such as quota or 'benchmarks'. Equality means just that, equal, not above and beyond. This is not unreasonable or extremist in the slightest.
Quotas do exist:
Employers and schools (public sector and private) are continuously harassed by private organizations and government agencies like the DOJ to single out certain demographics and give them preferential consideration for jobs or school placements based solely on their skin color, gender, ethnicity, etc. The government gives employers thousands of dollars of tax credits per employee they hire off of an approved list, based on things such as skin color, ethnicity and gender.
The above things are wrong imho. At most, the only people who should be granted some preferential status are veterans and disabled, but I hesitate to add even disable because that term and status is open to interpretation and is badly abused. Am I an extremist or hater for believing this? Apparently, some think it makes me a racist, sexist, fill-in-the-blank.
Some people like yourself do
Some people like yourself do not understand that while you're busy ferreting around for nonexistant quotas, privilege is alive and well and running the show.
I believe it...
Also, good luck to this gentleman. He'll need it. If a female screams discrimination, she gets hashtags galore, interviews, and articles on sneering left-leaning websites like Jezebel and Salon. If a male screams discrimination, then... Well, he just needs to "check his privilege" or something.
Classic example
Of someone so blind to his privilege that he doesn't get what a spoiled brat he is.
You are totally unable to comprehend how much harder it is to be nonwhite and/or female ... all you focus on is how you have been wronged by the world.
I hope God makes you a woman someday. A Black woman.
WAAAAH!!!!!
Cry me a fucking river. I never said that certain demographics don't/haven't faced adversity because of who they are. But you (quite predictably) immediately implied that I did.
So you're saying that men do not have a right to make claims of gender discrimination. That's what I got from your reply.
Finally, god won't send me back as a black woman because god doesn't exist. Have a nice day.
Don't forget the death threats
She also gets death threats, rape threats, nasty phone calls to her family and all her accounts hacked. For example, all those articles on Jezebel and Salon haven't helped Anita and Zoe and all the other women targeted by the gamergate perps.
*sigh*
Trying to talk to activist types like you is impossible. I never said that discrimination against females is not reality. You lefties are thick in the head.
Oh you poor man
So sorry that you find it so hard to adjust to civilian life, where there's no free lunch in the mess hall, no free housing based on rank, no automatic promotions and raises just for being there long enough, and no constantly reinforced delusions of heroism.
Then, to top it off, you can't even have that woman you hate or that woman you wanted to date court marshaled for being a lesbian for simply rebuffing your advances! In fact, you can get fired for that!
Maybe you should just grow up instead?
I'm sorry...what?
"Adjust to civilian life"? What the hell are you raving about? Seriously, make some sense.
Kind of makes you wonder...
There's an exam, but also an additional interview process for this kind of thing, yes?
One might be forgiven for wondering whether they saw...something during the process... such that they said 'Pass!'.
I mean, it's not as if the decision to go forward with this type of suit demonstrates any attitude issues or anything...
It's more than a test score
I once listened to a white male acquaintance deliver a tirade on how he'd been hard done by the Lawrence police department -- passed over, he claimed, in favor of a Hispanic candidate with a lower score.
"Do you speak Spanish?" I asked him.
"No, why? Why would that matter?"
...yeah.
I don't see your point...
Was fluency in Spanish something that he knew would have been a qualifier? Was that something that was part of your conversation?
selective certification is not illegal or unconstitutional
selective certification is legal if they are looking for specific skills or skill sets. Most likely they are looking for women officers to search female subjects, deal with female rape victims, and so on.
Then...
...they should say so.