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Sharon teen killed in West Bank attack
By adamg on Thu, 11/19/2015 - 2:42pm
Ezra Schwartz, 18, of Sharon, was one of three people killed by a Palestinian with an Uzi in a West Bank attack today, Yeshiva World reports.
Schwartz was spending a year studying in an Israeli yeshiva. Several other American students at the school were injured in the attack. Ha'aretz reports a Palestinian man got out of a car in the Gush Etzion region around 4:30 p.m. and fired an Uzi at other cars; he then got back in the car, drove away and crashed the vehicle.
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H-Block, West Bank, Oberkampf, etc.
The senselessness knows no bounds. People are just the worst.
I cannot even imagine what this kid's parents are feeling right now.
Spokesman for Hamas
calls the attack "an act of bravery".
Why was he in school in a war zone?
What were the parents thinking by sending him to study in what is an active war zone? This takes nothing away from his death. That is a terrible, terrible thing committed by a complete buffoon who should be strung up and knowing how the IDF operates the shooter hasn't long to live and his family's house will be torn down by military bulldozer within a few days. No one should have to suffer the way he did but you don't put yourself in the situation that it can happen to you.
Like it or not the West Bank is a war zone between well entrenched parties, both of whom do stupid things. You don't send an teen to study in Beirut in the 80's, Belfast in the 70's, Roxbury in the early 90's, nor Juarez or the West Bank today. Ideology be damned. It is a dangerous place for anyone.
Well ...
Why do people send exchange students to the US?
Big Difference
Chestnut Hill, Williamstown, Middlebury are a lot different than the West Bank.
Last time I checked there weren't active military patrols and militant settlers going up against the natives in and around Colby's campus.
Don't give a disingenuous response either. You are smarter than that.
It doesn't look good
Number of mass shootings in the US has been outstripping the number of days this year. If you were a parent in Stockholm or Frankfurt or Turin or Shanghai or Buenos Aires, would you be unconcerned by this?
If something happened while your kid was in the US, what would people in your community say?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/01/2015-274-days-294...
Isolated Mass Shooting vs. Combat Zone
There is a big difference between psychopath shooting up the local Hardee's versus a place where there is active street combat ongoing.
Please stop with the false equivalency
It's beneath you Swirly.
Gun violence in the US is a huge and now unique problem that needs to be addressed.
Fundamentalist terror in many countries is completely different.
Kids in different countries and environments are facing different threats.
And to answer your question, at this point in time I'd expose my kids to the potential of a random nut job attack in the US vs a coordinated fundamentalist attack in the ME any day.
Good lord. You're radicaliziing me against you one post at a time.
Equivalency?
Way to miss the point.
The point is that "some people" like John think that X place is dangerous because they read Y thing on the internet. They think everywhere around an area is a war zone.
Not being there, we really can't know.
I merely pointed out that the same could stand for people reading about all the shootings in the US and considering not sending their kids here. Many people outside the US have no idea how populous, expansive and diverse our country is. They might also have the impression that this is a crazy gun crime zone.
No "equivalency" out side of your imagination and projection.
Who are the "some people" you've put in quotes?
Weird. And inaccurate.
And sorry, the West Bank is currently a very dangerous place and the Mideast in general exceptionally so.
We're not talking about random unforeseen attacks a la US campus wack job shootings.
We're talking the ongoing issues and violence of a geo-political problem decades old and intertwined with religious and tribal animosities.
West Bank is 2x the size of Rhode Island
It has a 4 to 1 Arab over Israeli population.
I used to read Time as a kid. I watched Masada the first time it was on TV. I got an A+ in Ancient History in 8th Grade. I remember being excited to read about the 82 invasion of Lebanon when my parents brought me the paper to Scout camp because we were cut off from media. I have a friend who I went to school with who had her sister killed during the Intifada. I know Israel is building a road network to enforce a type of apartheid between Arabs and Israelis. In short I have been reading / hearing / watching about how dangerous a place the West Bank is since I was 7.
I know the West Bank is a messed up place. If there is a chance that I am driving down Route 2 in Warwick and I am going to get sprayed with automatic weapons fire on a random Thursday, I am going to avoid Route 2 in Warwick.
"Some People" have not been to Mars either, yet know it is a planet in our Solar System that has an atmosphere that is hospitable to humans.
Stop trying to one up people with your sidebars. It makes you look stupid.
Sorry dear
On just about every thread about some crazy with a rifle here, the word "terrorism" isn't very far away from the top of posts from one SwirlyGrrl.
Looks like someone needs backpedaling lessons.
Swirly, Swirly, Swirly...
sometimes you have a tin ear, girl. I work for a major university and as far as I can tell from enrollment and acceptance stats, the parent's of kids from foreign countries have no problem sending their kids over here to study in the Cambridge/Boston area, even with the gun violence that occurs in the city (as well as the USA).
The West Bank is not a place where you nor I would want to be. (Please tell me that you would not let your kids go there.) Cripes sakes. It is not a holiday resort and it is a place that probably would not make it onto to many folk's bucket lists.
Swirly, Swirly, Swirly...
The last time I checked, Sharon, MA and its environs are not war zones. The West Bank, the last time I checked, still is. So the chances (you love stats, correct?) of someone getting shot and or blown up and/or killed are much much higher where this poor kid was sent to study. I would of not sent my kid to study in a war zone.
He wasn't at school in a war zone
His yeshiva is in Israel, not the West Bank. He was on a visit to a Jewish town there. Not quite the same thing.
Ok Then
There have been tit for tat shootings for months in the West Bank. Don't venture off into a war zone while at school. I'm not victim blaming but better judgement should have been used.
Suburban college kids love to go slumming. I had a bunch of friends in college who used to think they were cool driving into the nearby working class town for a late night drink until one of them got the tar beaten out of them by a local. There it was just fists not automatic weapons.
He was reportedly on his way
He was reportedly on his way to doing community service, not being a dumb suburban kid who thought he was invincible.
Let's get the facts straight before we go victim blaming on a kid who just died, okay?
Supposedly he was doing
Supposedly he was doing community service (delivering food to soldiers). Ethics of that aside, he wasn't "slumming."
I do wonder how aware they make the students of these dangers, and what kind of security they provide for them. Sad nonetheless.
True that
Growing in Belfast in the 70's and moving to Baltimore at the end of the 90's, the level of violence that we consider normal in the US is insane. I have also lived and worked in the Middle East and would take my chance being dropped blind outside an actually active shooting in progress as opposed to the drive I took through say East St Louis 20 years ago.
Sharon teen's blood on Obama's hands
Disgusting to see a local teen killed by Hezbollah, funded by Iran and their recent $160 billion windfall handed over by Obama. Iran's "ultimate solution" for Israel should be ready soon, thanks to Messrs. Obama and Kerry. Meanwhile Jews in the U.S. vote overwhelmingly Democrat, including Kerry (nee Kohn) who now identifies as Catholic, even "Irish Catholic" in the Congressional Record until he was called out and blamed an aide for submitting the false information. Some commenters blame the parents for sending a Sharon teen to an area near Muslim terrorists. Who will be blamed when Muslim terrorists come to Sharon? Blaming the victim is akin to saying the rape victim in the mini-skirt "deserved it." Shameless.
2:51 AM
Damn! I had 3:47 in the Obama's fault / they are going to take out the local diner with their AKs comment pool.
Interesting
Funny, that. Must be that we're stupid or something.
"nee Kohn"?
Meanwhile Jews in the U.S. vote overwhelmingly Democrat, including Kerry (nee Kohn) who now identifies as Catholic
Well, John Boy did say the
Well, John Boy did say the Charlie Hebdo massacre had a "legitimacy" so he must be one of those self-hating Jews.
Then again, George Takei does support the party that put him in a concentration camp...