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Not cool at all
By adamg on Wed, 07/06/2016 - 4:49pm
A Red Line rider forwards this photo of a guy who tried and failed to get the attention of the two women on either side of him, or maybe upskirt them, on an Alewife-bound train between JFK/UMass and South Station.
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From that angle
That sure does look like upskirting.
Another activity comes to mind
Kicking him in the head.
Except these ladies have their legs nailed closed, as there is no artful subterfuge in this.
And since it does....
Since it looks like upskirting, what should everyone be doing with their phones ( hint...not texting friends about what is happening)?
I'd be concerned about
I'd be concerned about upskirt shots. I wouldn't want this at my feet.
Is he one of the dancing guys?
And took a spill? Hate those guys.
Nope
He apparently positioned himself like that very deliberately.
Instead of doing something I
Instead of doing something I am going to take a picture and make a hashtag, that has to help right?
Okay
What would you do?
At minimum? A picture of the
At minimum? A picture of the dudes face, this picture is borderline worthless. Considering that looks to be a 12 year old girl being subjected to sexual harassment? Put myself in between him and the child.
I'd follow him to see what
I'd follow him to see what fake place he works at with the green tie.
With all due respect,
With all due respect, following a likely mentally unstable man that is harassing a girl and you being a woman (based on your name) does not sound like a terrific plan.
With all due respect this
With all due respect this tall street smart Latina would not be just sitting there pretending to ignore that pervert.
Riiight!!!!
Go head sis tell it!!! But I also liked your comment on Green Tie and "JOB"
I don't know about that
Most of these guys want nothing to do with actual confrontation. The idea of an angry woman kicking the shit out of them is not in their game plan.
They run when you wheel around and, say, kick them down the stairs at the BU Bridge or limp off quickly when you break their foot with a spike heel.
Putting this perv's photo out
Putting this perv's photo out online to warn others is doing something. There could be several reasons that the person who took this photo didn't want to confront him.
A picture with no face is
A picture with no face is simply #slactivism
However, you have an idea of
However, you have an idea of his size and weight, you can see what style of sneakers he's wearing. It's a start.
Sent to the T Police, too, right?
That's what I was thinking, too, DPM. That and I hope that the photographer also took the opportunity to get a better shot of the guy's face.
If I am not mistaken, the Legislature clarified the law last year to make it clear that "upskirting" and similar activities are not lawful. Let's see if the dope on the floor was even smart enough to not retain whatever photos he took*. My guess is that any evidence is still right on the phone.
* allegedly, of course.
Is he mentally ill? Is that a
Is he mentally ill? Is that a green tie around his neck? Doesn't seem like he's all there to me.
I thought it was a weird
I thought it was a weird green phone case at first, looks like a tie now that you say it.
The tie could have a pin hole
The tie could have a pin hole camera.
Is that a green tie....is it a clip on?
Someone should pull on it really hard to make sure.
Why isn't somebody kicking
Why isn't somebody kicking that loser?
“In Massachusetts we try and
“In Massachusetts we try and discourage … self-help.”
On a serious note violence may not be appropriate if this person is mentally ill. Simply putting ones body in between his and that child's would be adequate.
Yeah, so he can keep doing it
Yeah, so he can keep doing it over and over and over and over and over...
You automatically assumed he's mentally ill. So he gets a pass.
I just assumed from this picture that he's a fucking creep. And the police need to know about him.
I take it you did not see my
I take it you did not see my earlier post?
For some reason, people often
For some reason, people often make excuses for perverts. Oh, right, this person isn't a criminal, he needs mental help or maybe he has a brain tumor! Or: she shouldn't have been out that late, wearing that, out by herself, reading a book on the T, listening to music, walking on the streets, etc. Blame the victim and excuse the perp. DPM was not, however, one of these aholes, if you see his previous comments.
Well being mentally ill or
Well being mentally ill or challenged is an excuse for crazy behavior. From this picture he seems to be looking at the ceiling but I wasn't there so...
WRONG. Being mentally ill or
WRONG. Being mentally ill or 'challenged' (do you mean stoned??) does NOT give you a pass to sexually harass women or children or men. Sexual harassment is criminal behavior.
Stoned??? Where did that come
Stoned??? Where did that come from??? It doesn't give people a pass but it should be handled differently. Please don't twist this. The police should have been alerted to handle this.
It's not always that cut and
It's not always that cut and dry. As a teenager my friend had a teenage brother with Down Syndrome. Her brother would sometimes do things that are considered perverted. Should we have kicked him or had him arrested??? I think not. I am not making excuses for every person that acts like this but some do have an excuse. I am not defending criminals.
Violence? Really?
Multiple folks have called for a violent response, including Swirl, one of my favorite posters.
I believe that even if he was unquestionably taking upskirts that it would be really wrong to attack him.
Restrain him for the MBTA police? Sure. Kick him in the head? No fucking way. This creeper is in no way an immediate threat to commit physical violence on that train. Bystanders and victims don't get to be judge, jury, or imposer of brutality.
More obviously
Why doesn't someone grab his phone and have a little chat about appropriate behavior?
What phone?
Idiot is holding a bright green tie.
Ah...
Why are the ladies sitting there while he is on the floor? I certainly would have moved.
They are wearing dresses
If you wear them much, you'd know why - getting up means giving him an opportunity to snap a pic. Sitting "tight" with legs snapped shut like that means there is no such opportunity.
I'm sure that if that were
I'm sure that if that were you sitting there in a dress he would have moved to the other side of the train, instead of trying to snap a photo of your snatch. #yuck
the fuck?
What are you implying?
You misunderstand pervs
They don't care WHOSE snatch. It has absolutely nothing to do with the woman it is attached to.
Oh, and please grow up. I'm sure your high school, mom, and dad are proud of you but your internet skills and understanding of the world ain't nothing to write home about.
Maybe having trouble staying up, from alcohol/drugs,
or has benign mental disorder, or maybe he's trying to woo with what he thinks is cute.
I'm not seeing evidence of upskirting intent.
I'm also not sure why some people think that female person is 12 years old, unless it's the pink shoelaces.
He position himself like that
He position himself like that. Sat on floor looking through pictures of what looks like women in the magazine facing the empty seat, then he sat on the seat, then seat on the floor again this time facing the woman while looking through the magazine. Woman paid him no attention so we put magazine away and position himself on the floor basically with his face facing the woman's area between her legs. Stared for a while, got up, lowered his pants, walked around a little, sat and tried to talk to the woman, woman paid him no attention, and laid down again on the floor trying to look up woman's dress/skirt.
Then I would've called Transit Police
to have him checked out for substances or medical condition. And if it's neither of those, to give him a talking-to.
If that's what happened
I'd find that unnerving or alarming. I'd be wondering whether he was suddenly going to get more aggressive or violent.
Imaginary 12-year-old
This. Among other reasons I don't think she's a child is that I can't imagine any 12-year-old carrying that style of handbag.
Did the Police ever show up?
Last week they sent swat teams for people praying, I'm sure they held service and arrested him
Where did someone state that
Where did someone state that the police were notified?
Creepy But either way I would
Creepy But either way I would just get up and move elsewhere Instead of sticking my face in my phone like most people do to avoid it. People need to be more vigilant. I take the Red Line daily. People have their eyes glued to their phones/tablets. I pray that nothing bad happens to me I'm not so sure most people would help They hide behind their phones. I will for help if need be to help out someone
Agree
People are so oblivious to what happening around them on the trains/platforms. Almost everyone is on a device. It would be ideal to have cell phone hammers in the subway cars.
Everyone is on a device so
Everyone is on a device so they don't have to make eye contact with people like this creep which, to these kinds of creeps, is an invitation to interact. I would keep my eyes on my screen too. Back in the day, I used to read a book while on the T for the same reason.
Leslie Horwinkle
Remember, Cheech & Chong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiaPI6u9j1g
Confrontation
It's always iffy getting into a confrontation with someone who's already demonstrated a tenuous connection with socially accepted behavior. That said, I wonder what kind of response would be provoked by sticking your phone in his face and taking some pictures (as opposed to staring into the phone pretending he isn't there).