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Shootings, stabbing in Brookline
By adamg on Wed, 01/27/2016 - 12:50pm
Wanted car: Focus with New York plates: GYR3714.
WHDH reports police are looking for two men for an incident at 198 St. Paul St. that left three men stabbed and shot - two of them dumped on Harvard Street in Brookline Village.
Brookline Police report the Pierce, Lawrence and St. Mary's schools were locked down after the attacks.
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Any violence *IN* the schools?
My understanding is that the three schools in lockdown are Lawrence, St Marys, and Pierce. Does anyone know if any violence occurred in any of these schools?,Or are they on lockdown because of a broader safety concern, or something else?
Pierce School is safe
Everybody accounted for, the lockdown is precautionary.
No place is 100% safe, particularly nowadays.
That's for sure.
That's always been true
There was no "100% safe" time ever, obviously.
But particularly nowadays... crime (and especially violent crime) is much less than it was 10, 20, and especially 30-40 years ago.
crime
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0873729.html
Homicide rates now are on par with those from the 1950s. So I have no idea what your "particularly nowadays" quip means.
Homicides down / shootings up
Medicine has improved considerably so shooting victims have higher rate of survival but there are definitely more shootings - and younger and younger shooters/victims.
Seems characters are more brazen as well.
"Medicine"
It's not "Medicine" that gives victims a higher rate of survival, it's the Paramedics and EMT's who respond and treat these victims that give them a higher rate of survival. Fast response to the scene, plugging the 'holes', replacing volume, and fast transport to the ER and their staff is what does it.
On a side note, Boston EMS's EMT's and Medics are the best in the nation. They do a wonderful job keeping the Homicide rate down.
Infoplease is not a reliable
Infoplease is not a reliable source. Please refer to www.nij.gov for statistics and data collected by actual researchers. Also, Uniform Crime Reports from the police departments themselves. Homicide rates are the lowest they've ever been in your lifetime.
MAJOR CRIME FALLS TO A 10
MAJOR CRIME FALLS TO A 10-YEAR LOW IN BOSTON
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/01/15/major-crime-drops-boston/Tr...
This part is true: No place
This part is true: No place is 100% safe,
This part is not: particularly nowadays.
As Americans in 2016, we live in the safest society in the history of the human race. Our chances of falling victim to violent crime, particularly homicide, are vanishingly slim. We have reduced accidental deaths, improved auto safety, safeguarded our food and water supplies, and lengthened natural life with better healthcare and exercise. And yet, thanks to TV news, we feel like we are in constant danger. This makes me sad.
I wonder though...
sometimes whether there's a medical element to those stats. Advances in medical care have made a difference in fatalities in the military--why not with civilians getting shot by guns? I'm not saying that the world is necessarily a much more dangerous place but were there always this many shootings? Lots of people wounded--still maybe fewer dying from those injuries. And reporting too--a relative who worked in the Globe newsroom in the 50s-60s recalls the "is it dark out there?" query from editors on crime stories--i.e. were the perps/victims black and therefore not newsworthy.
I'm sure those elements
I'm sure those elements contribute to our safe world. But the safety goes way beyond gun violence. Everything from bike helmets to seat belts to workplace safety regulations are at play.
Like I said above, you should
Like I said above, you should not be relying on the media's perceptions of crime for your statistics. You should be looking at data from the NIJ. The Uniform Crime Report, Supplemental Homicide Reports, and the National Incident-Based Reporting System are the most reliable statistics on homicide. Also, BPD and the MA Exec. Office of Public Safety provide plenty of data on homicides and non-fatal shootings that is comparable to previous years.
The lack of reporting is not
The lack of reporting is not a thing of the past. This happened in Brookline, where there are relatively few homicides a year. If this had happened in Dorchester, I guarantee you we'd barely be hearing about it. Your perception of crime is skewed by the fact that everyone and their mother is a reporter with a camera phone now, and with social media everything that happens anywhere gets blasted out for public consumption. Also, crime gets better ratings than, say, the latest hearing to discuss liquor licenses.
And yes, you are correct, the fact that Boston has several of the world's top hospitals and a few trauma centers within a few blocks every which way to the neighborhoods where shootings have mostly occurred has everything to do with why there are a lot of non-fatal shootings but not many homicides. The doctors and nurses at BMC have no doubt mastered the emergency treatment of gunshot trauma. This is also why we were extremely lucky to have only three fatalities in the marathon bombing and that every injured person who was alive when they reached the hospital survived. Take into account the fact that a lot of shootings are not point-blank or execution range - they are done at night while either the perp or the victim is in motion, decreasing the likelihood of a fatal shot. And, most citizens are not expert marksmen or even reach 30% firing accuracy that trained personnel have on average.
Or maybe it's just reported
Or maybe it's just reported better.
Just a body dump
Boston.com says a witness saw someone drag two people out of their car on to the street near an EMS bus. The injuries seemed to take place elsewhere and Brookline is just a good place to make sure someone gets prompt medical attention.
Don't make shit up.
- Brookline TAB article
It appears that at least some of the injuries occurred in Brookline, at the St Paul address. Please don't just make shit up and add it to current events in an effort to be cute or clever.
Conspicuous Tinting
Perhaps one of our auto enthusiasts or police officers can comment on this, but I am pretty sure that the tint on those windows is WAY darker than what is permitted under Mass. law.
Can anyone comment on whether a vehicle can be stopped if a police officer suspects the tint is too dark, or is that one of these "secondary" things where you have to be stopped for something else first?
Perhaps dark tints are necessary in the south (I have my doubts) for solar/temperature related reasons, but they certainly are not up here (including NY). I think that it would be enough to draw my attention if I were a cop.
I think the yearly inspection
I think the yearly inspection takes window tinting into account.
Its a rental car.....
Which gangbangers use because they can have someone else rent it for them, and if a cop checks the plate, it comes back as a rental instead of someone with 15 warrants and 150 arraignments on his criminal record.
And being a rental, it can have illegal taint because it is from out of state.
And tinted windows is a primary enforcement option, but sometimes cameras give a distorted view as well. It may not be as tinted as it appears in this photo.
How do we know it's a rental.
In my recollection, all NY rental played began w "z". Otherwise, this makes sense.
Please disregard
I see now in the later story that it was indeed a stolen rental. I guess the old "Z" plate thing has gone away.
Rental car from NJ. Most
Rental car from NJ. Most rental car places aren't tinting their windows, so what you're seeing is probably just the result of the angle of the camera.