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There's a busted rail at Community College, delays severe, T will acknowledge

Waiting for a bus at Community College

Orange Line non-riders wait for bus at Community College. Photo by Ric Duarte.

It's buses between Community College and North Station on the Orange Line this morning.

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Many people got on the commuter rail as well.

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Taken about 45 minutes to go from Oak Grove to Community College, where some say we're still sitting to this day. This is "due to a rail issue at North Station."

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This is fine.

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Am I the only person who gets more annoyed with the loud, angry people who immediately complain about the delay than with the T for the delay itself?

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Hi statler, Adam often retweets my complaints about T issues. In my experience, the T alert only goes out AFTER people begin complaining on Twitter.

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I'm only referring to the folks actually on the delayed train complaining vocally to other stuck passengers.

Complaining on UHUB, Twitter, etc is, of course, fine.

I should have made that more clear. Apologies.

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"Am I the only person who gets more annoyed with the loud, angry people who immediately complain about the delay than with the T for the delay itself?"

Yes, you are the only person. If the T only broke down once in a while it wouldn't be such a big deal and people wouldn't complain so much. But it is such a constant daily thing that people are frustrated. Not only does the T break down constantly, when it does nobody that works for the T seems to know what to do about it and acts like it is the fist time it ever happened. It has become an untenable situation.

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I don't really see how yelling loudly at your fellow passengers helps anything.

Yes, you are inconvenienced, so are we.

Yes, you are annoyed, so are we.

Yes, you are angry, so are we.

Your loud yelling and complaining is really only making a bad situation worse. Kindly refrain.

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why don't you say "Excuse me" to the person shouting, "I realize you are frustrated. We all are. So could you kindly refrain from yelling...."

There...ok?

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with people who complain about 10 min delays, this type of delay however justifies complaints.

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Latest T alert indicates only "moderate" delays due to earlier track problem between Community College and North Station.

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I got the alert saying shuttle buses were replacing service while sitting in traffic approaching Sullivan on the bus. While walking to the station itself (me and several other passengers had bailed at the last stop, because it's faster to walk the rest of the way), I got an alert saying service had resumed with severe delays. There was no sign of shuttle buses at Sullivan.

The platform at Sullivan was eerily empty, and a train showed up in 2 minutes. It was about as full as usual, and I squeezed on. And we sat there. And sat there. Then crawled to Community College, stopping and waiting periodically. At Community we waited for ~15 minutes before proceeding at a walking speed out of the station. We resumed normal speed at the tunnel portal, and there were a ton of T personnel standing in the alcoves as we passed by. Northbound trains ran at normal speed through the area.

The operator did a great job of keeping us informed as to when we would be moving, and saying multiple times that we'd be going very slowly. However, a different operator announced while standing by at Community College that "the last 3 cars are empty, go down there!" despite the last car (where I was) being so crammed it couldn't possibly fit another person. This announcement did not help the situation.

Total time to travel 4 miles from Somerville to downtown: 70 minutes.

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Which bus was this? If it gets stuck in a jam approaching Sullivan every morning, it would be a great candidate for a queue jump bus lane.

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The 89/101 coming from Broadway. Traffic heading into Sullivan is always backed up past the busway entrance, but the problem is compounded when traffic is especially bad, because traffic coming to Sullivan from 93 takes the Mystic Ave/Broadway ramp instead of the Sullivan Sq/Charlestown ramp, and turns right then left onto Broadway. This both increases the volume coming in on Broadway AND prevents outbound traffic from getting to Broadway (which is a serious problem in the afternoon).

As a civil engineer I've actually given a lot of thought to what can be done in Sullivan. A bus lane would be fantastic, but I can't see any effective way of preventing other traffic from using it. Cars already form 2 lanes through there, using the bike lane and parking, so obviously pavement markings alone won't suffice. You could use flexible bollards, but there's the maintenance issue, and the fact that people would still be able to access the lane at the Lombardi Way signal. You can't block it off before the intersection because 90/92 buses access Sullivan by turning left onto Broadway from Lombardi Way, so they would then be unable to use the lane.

The solution I think would actually help here is to close the Broadway portion of the Mystic Ave/Broadway offramp from 93. This way all traffic going to Sullivan would be forced to use the intended Sullivan offramp, and not impede buses and local traffic. The ramp is really unnecessary anyway - any traffic turning left (towards Assembly) can just use the u-turn to Mystic Ave, and any traffic turning right toward Broadway can just use the previous exit to Mystic Ave, and then cut over via McGrath - that route's probably faster and more direct anyway. This solution would also have the side effect of preventing traffic from 93 south destined for Washington St from cutting through the residential neighborhood via Mt Pleasant St to avoid Sullivan.

I know this is getting a bit long-winded, but since I'm on the subject, there are actually a whole host of improvements that should be done to the 89/101 - Winter Hill short-turns, stop consolidation, signal priority, etc. Honestly if these weren't separate routes, they'd have the ridership to be considered a Key Route (8923 weekday - that's higher than 5 of the Key Routes!), and most of that ridership comes from the combined portion. Short-turning buses on the busiest portion of the route would create a lot better reliability for the majority of riders, and reduce the insane bunching that often occurs (e.g. 4 buses in a row!)

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Had the MBTA system undergone a thorough re-vamping and overhaul sooner, there wouldn't be all these problems cropping up at inopportune moments.

Buses, unfortunately, aren't any more efficient than cars when it comes to getting around this city, either, because buses, too, sit in traffic.

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This isn't a problem unique to the MBTA or Boston. It's a byproduct of thousands of people getting on and off, combined with old tracks, cars, weather, etc. Complaining about T delays is like complaining about taxes. Life is a lot better when you accept delays as par for the course and learn to live with it. Most (if not all) wouldn't be willing to pay the price, both literally and figuratively to actually fix the problem so learn to be happy with the piecemeal improvements and fixes and appreciate having a public transit option that (believe it or not) is more reliable than it is unreliable.

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The rail broke, which is tougher, since you can theoretically move a train, but a rail needs to be fixed.

As the supporters of 24 hour train service are constantly reminded, there is a maintenance period for the tracks. Trains magazine recently did a piece on the Orange Line's maintenance crews of all things. They are suppose to catch these things before things like this happen.

The driver of our train occasionally called it a "weather" delay. God help us if 29 degrees is considered bad weather in Boston.

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Yes, trains everywhere break down, but the T's trains break down far more often than pretty much anywhere else. THAT's what we're complaining about, and shutting up and accepting it is only going to make things worse, because the legislature can fix this.

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