When did Ted Cruz start writing restaurant reviews?

Boston Eater asked local food writers for their "biggest restaurant grievances" of the year just past. Some of the writers responded with complaints about overly loud restaurants, the ubiquity of "small-plate" menus, the cost of going out these days.

Kerry Byrne, who writes about food for the Herald, complained about lazy welfare queens.

The dearth of talent, especially noticeable from a dining perspective in the front of the house. Every chef and restaurateur complains about it and struggles with it. One of the inevitable fallouts of an ever-expanding welfare society in which millions of Americans find it's more profitable to sit at home than it is to work. Restaurateurs are struggling as a result.

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Seriously!

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Unbelievable.

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It's not troll bait

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It's humor.

Along with nuance, it's something conservatives have trouble with.

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I did.

I actually read some of the reviews. Doctor told me, "Don't read that dreck."

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i love it

it has to do with getting a joke- and you not doing so.

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lol

Sorry, dude, I wasn't directing my Jack Torrence death glare at Adam for the title; I was directing it at the dumbass complaint from the Herald writer.

Here's one for you:

IMAGE(https://45.media.tumblr.com/bae4f8f44859c4c4651f12f36998eddc/tumblr_n0vr8kiUAU1qcga5ro1_500.gif)

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Animated GIFs

Cybah, you have created a Frankenstein...

Actually funny, but my hair's lighter.

Anyway, maybe I'm not a dude. Don't be so cisnormative and heterogenderityness. Please don't make me feel like I need to retreat into my safe space in a quiet (below 85 dB) restaurant.

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score

Difficulty: 4/10
Execution: 1/10

Sorry, no gold for you.

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Sorry...

...you're not a judge.

But, as the snarkiest one of them all would say, "Thanks for playing!"

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:-O

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We can post animated gifs??!

I had no idea, that's terrific.

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People like Kerry Byrne live on a different planet

To you and I. We live in a world where the restaurant scene has never been better. Those restaurants are packed 7 nights a week because nobody cooks any more. (Thank you booming economy) They are staffed by eager students or people looking to make extra money in the front of house, and staffed by Spanish speakers in the back of house, eager to earn a living while learning English proficient enough to be promoted up front.
25-30 years ago those back of house jobs were filled by the Irish. Nobody complained back then, because well the Irish are white. I should know. I am one.
Thankfully people like Kerry Byrne will die off soon enough. Just like my 66 year old friend who sits at home in his white suburb, with his newly gotten guns, complaining about socialism while sucking down every benefit Medicare offers.

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Bulldetector, your comment

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Bulldetector, your comment made me squeal in delight. The restaurant industry is one laden with the college sort just looking for a quick buck and go, the old timers who simply enjoy their tenures, and the folks in the kitchen who like it or not, consists of immigrants. This writer sounds like an awful marriage between Howie Carr and Anthony Bourdain. Hope his next minority server gives him a hockaloogie soup...

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Not fair to Bourdain.

He acknowledges that most of the people cooking your high-end French and luxury-steakhouse and fine Italian food are from Mexico and El Salvador and Colombia, but he's one of those people that sees hard-working immigrants as a source of strength to the restaurant industry and our country, not undesirables who should be deported so they don't tek err jahbs.

I washed dishes for a living once. It's horrible, back-breaking work. Ask a restaurateur how many white Americans they have working at it. I promise you the answer will be, "Most of them quit after one Friday-night shift." Same is true for the people who harvest most of our hand-labor-intensive agricultural products. We're a country with big corporations that love to exploit immigrant labor while supporting politicians who vilify immigrants as a threat. It's a tidy, very profitable bit of naked hypocrisy.

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The data can be found

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The data can be found elsewhere from official sources. The numbers he points out are basically accurate.

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The problem with the "news" sites that

right-wingers like to cite is the naked negative slant. Why acknowledge that Obama has added nine million jobs to the economy since W blew it up, when you can cite a statistic that hasn't historically been used for reporting on unemployment? Answer: because it's your preference to cast the President in the worst light possible to advance your political views, which requires you to rely not on fair-minded journalistic sources, but highly biased ones.

Most rational people acknowledge that the recovery is weaker than it could be, hurt by the number of people who have stopped looking. But wage stagnation is a much older problem than the W recession or Obama recovery. It goes back at least 40 years, mostly due to American corporations moving jobs to lower-wage countries, for which both Republicans and Democrats own some responsibility, and the weakening of labor protections, which is largely a Republican-led effort.

I understand your need to believe that things are much worse than they really are. But don't expect people who don't live in the right-wing propaganda bubble to be convinced by those sources.

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No one was suggesting wage

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No one was suggesting wage stagnation wasn't a problem that doesn't go back for decades. The issue is you casting aside an entire report without specifically pointing out where the facts are wrong. The sources are official national census data.

It is very odd that a supposed left leaning person like yourself is dismissing reports that wages are flat as a partisan attack. Really? It's something that everyone could care about without turning it into a partisan argument.

Stop turning everything into a political argument and debate things on the merits of the data.

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"to advance your political

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"to advance your political views, which requires you to rely not on fair-minded journalistic sources, but highly biased ones."

Huh, what? The post you are replying to said nothing of the sort. You are talking to several different people. Don't impose your own prejudice on other people. The comment you are replying to said nothing about politics. You are turning this into a partisan issue for your own reasons.

"It goes back at least 40 years, mostly due to American corporations moving jobs to lower-wage countries, for which both Republicans and Democrats own some responsibility, and the weakening of labor protections, which is largely a Republican-led effort."

You are replying to someone who does not deny the long term wage trends. You are the one turning it into a political debate.

"I understand your need to believe that things are much worse than they really are."

You really need to leave the 495 belt sometime. You are in no position to offer a qualified interpretation of the national state of the economy. Give it a rest.

"But don't expect people who don't live in the right-wing propaganda bubble to be convinced by those sources."

I didn't link to such a source. Once again, the sources are from national census data and other official sources. This has been deliberated and analyzed by people across the entire political spectrum.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wa...

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The person who you are

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The person who you are replying to is not "sm4269a." What are you even talking about? Where in the post is any of the assertions that you make?

Wage stagnation is something that people of all political persuasion can be concerned about.

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First of all, sm4269a and the

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First of all, sm4269a and the person you replied to are two different people. You really need to look at who you are replying to from now own.

Where in either post are any of the suppositions that you assert evident? Since when is concern over people's wages a right wing issue? That makes no sense at all.

Do not presume to know someone's political leanings because they believe the economic situation of a lot of people is not so great.

Here is a not right wing take on the poor economic recovery:

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/07/437210796/despite-recovery-middle-wage-wor...

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Yes, the middle class has been getting squeezed in this country

since the Reagan administration. Let's see: what's the GOP prescription for that? Ah, right: cutting taxes on the wealthiest 1%, which has contributed hugely to our national debt and income inequality. Shame on you if you're still swallowing that load of bollocks.

Also, get yourself a uHub ID if you're so concerned about being properly responded to.

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Who said anything about any

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Who said anything about any political party?

"Also, get yourself a uHub ID if you're so concerned about being properly responded to."

Or, you can just click the reply button under the correct comment.

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Okay... And?

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Okay... And? You gonna link to the Dictionary next?

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It's a very important

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It's a very important distinction in the rapidly changing economy.

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Nice "counterpoint" you've got

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Your bias against facts can't hide your political agenda. If you can get over yourself (doubtful) you'll see how bad the US jobs picture is:

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/07/16/unemployment-i...

Unemployed individuals who haven't actively looked for a job in the last four weeks, for any number of reasons, actually slip away from the Labor Department's unemployment calculations. So although the unemployment rate ticked down to a seven-year low of 5.3 percent in June, that number didn't do justice to the 640,000 individuals who exited the labor market last month and the nearly 94 million people who were neither employed nor looking for work.

More alarmingly, the participation rate of so-called prime age workers (those between 25 and 54 years old) has slipped in recent years. This is an age bracket that has mostly completed educational requirements and isn't yet retiring, so prime age down-ticks are difficult to explain.

"We knew that the baby boomers were reaching retirement years and they were going to start leaving," Harry Holzer, an economist and professor at Georgetown University, said on PBS NewsHour last week. "What's been more surprising is that even people, say, below the age of 55, what we call prime-age workers, have also been leaving the labor force. And we don't see any signs that in great numbers they're coming back. And that's a big problem. That's a problem for them in terms of their own earning capacity, but also for the country as well."

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That's U3 not U6 unemployment

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That's U3 not U6 unemployment. Also, which numbers in his article weren't "real".

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We don't need websites to tell us what the economy is doing

We simply have to look out the window and see the number of cranes hovering over building sites, fleets of concrete trucks looking to supplying them, traffic getting worse and worse, rents going through the roof, retail spaces that were empty all filled and best of all, everybody that we know are gainfully employed .

You are one of those people like Kerry Byrne who live on a different planet than the rest of us. Now go vote for trump so we can all have a good laugh when he has a Goldwater type "win".

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What's more hilarious is people who think they're getting

the straight dope from blatant right-wing propaganda organs like the Conservative News Service. There's reality, and there's Right-Wing Alternate Reality, and nothing pinpoints your location more quickly than citing cockamamie sources like that one.

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You don't even understand

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You don't even understand what you are talking about. The data in that article is basically correct and is sourced from official data. Go ahead, try to refute it. Delineate the places where it's empirically incorrect. If you don't like the website that poster linked to, there's plenty of other places to find the information you apparently know nothing about.

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That is a very solipsistic

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That is a very solipsistic argument. It is well documented that the standard of living is stagnant for the great majority of people, and Boston does not represent the majority of the country. Many transplants know that very well, which is why they are moving here. The job market data among other things all support this.

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How convenient that you only

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How convenient that you only trudge out that on posts you disagree with rather than the others. The facts don't change. Boston has the 3rd highest income inequality of any major city in the country.

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Why don't you get back on track.

A crazy right wing loon is decrying the state of restaurants in Boston and blaming it on welfare queens.

I have no clue wtf point you are trying to make.

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You took it off yourself

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You took it off yourself track by talking about all the constructions cranes you could see throughout the city or something.

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That's a lot of ignorance to unpack

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In short, it is false. As recently as April (2015), the Wall Street Journal reported that 56% of those currently receiving welfare assistance are employed:

It’s poor-paying jobs, not unemployment, that strains the welfare system.That’s one key finding from a study by researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, that showed the majority of households receiving government assistance are headed by a working adult. The study found that 56% of federal and state dollars spent between 2009 and 2011 on welfare programs — including Medicaid, food stamps and the Earned Income Tax Credit — flowed to working families and individuals with jobs. In some industries, about half the workforce relies on welfare...More than half of front-line fast-food workers receive some form of government assistance.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/04/13/get-a-job-most-welfare-recipients-already-have-one/

Additionally, as recently as September (2014), the Census reports that the number of households receiving government assistance has not increased:

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2014/acs/acsbr13-13.pdf

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$15/hour would be just a start

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The fact is that businesses have learned to exploit government assistance to poor people to play poverty wages. It's a win-win for the 1%, cheap subsidized labor and political warfare within the working class.

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Thank you Walmart

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For giving your employees workshops on how to collect food stamps and free health care.

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To Translate

The good economy means that talented FOH staff can switch jobs easily and shitty restaurants and/or asshole managers are finding that the good people want better pay, better treatment, or both. This change really sucks if your the type of manager accustom to having people begging for work.

"Welfare" has nothing to do with -- the amount you can make as a good server is far above what you'd get from unemployment.

To anyone who complains of "Welfare Queens" I dare you to quit your job and live entirely off unemployment and other public benefits.

EDIT: It should be noted that even good restaurants are having trouble finding/keeping talent as the economy improves. There is simply a shortage of good waitstaff given the demand for them. But this is due to the good economy -- the complete opposite of what the moronic reviewer is suggesting.

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Cooking is a lost art

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That people should re-discover. For the price of your average dinner in the North End, I can entertain 2-3 couples at my home with multiple bottles of decent wine and a three course meal. Cooking is fun, and once you come up with a few signature dishes, you realize that it's as good, if not better than the entrees you are getting ripped off for in restaruants. B&G Oysters takes the cake. I remember spending $200+ and walking out hungry.
But...it's Barbara Lynch! Sorry, I just don't see the value.

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couple of points, gramps

1. North End is incredibly overrated in my humble opinion, but whatever.
2. Cooking is great. However, for those of us in cozy one-bedroom apartments:
(a) regularly inviting over 2 or 3 other couples is a massive pain in the ass, and
(b) cleaning all those dishes every night - by hand, mind you, because very few apartments available to us proles come equipped with dishwashers - is also a massive pain in the ass.
3. Some of us like a weekly date night, where we gladly pay someone else to bring us delicious food and refreshing drinks, and then take care of all the cleanup while we saunter home to our little apartment to enjoy each other's company, scot-free.

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Gramps?

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I'm 28, Malcom. But thank you for being rude and insulting! How nice of you!

I am not saying I never go to restauarants. Do I enjoy them once in a while? Sure. Do they serve a purpose of business meetings? Of course.

Have a great day everyone!

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I love to cook

Given the "how to" stuff on the internet, it isn't a lost art in the least. My teens like to cook and bake as well.

However, it would be difficult to bring nine to twelve people from Boston to Medford for a business dinner (cooked in an hour's time after a day of meetings), and then back to their hotel after, then have to come home and clean up and be ready for my meeting again at 7:30 the next morning.

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It's shellfish, what do you

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It's shellfish, what do you expect? We are overfishing the oceans, and rapidly depleting fish stocks. That is why high end restaurants are now "discovering" alternatives like Bluefish.

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Even with a $100k salary, it

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Even with a $100k salary, it's more profitable for me to cook a great meal at home and drink a $10 bottle of wine, than spend $100 at a restaurant. (Plus tip) Sorry restaurantuers if you're struggling.

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You won't be missed

It's a great time for restaurants with demand for their services going up. The flip side is that it's harder to find good employees. Typical good economy story.

Restaurants compete with one another, not people cooking at home.

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Profitable?

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Who cooks at home for profit?

And in the future, nobody cares how much you make, it's declasse.

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A penny saved

Is a penny earned

Or if my mother in law is cooking

A penny burned

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Kerry is brilliant in a couple of ways.

I admire the statistical rigor he brings to sports analysis, especially the NFL, and he has fine moments as a food writer: check out one of this other contributions to the Eater Boston year-end survey of local critics and bloggers, like his description of his best meals of 2015. Good, evocative stuff there.

But the notion that potential workers are staying at home rather than taking restaurant jobs so they can collect welfare is a risible, paranoid right-wing fantasy.I think he is way off base in his assessment of why restaurants struggle to find good talent, which he starts off on the wrong foot by citing it only as a front-of-the-house problem; many restaurants are also struggling in the kitchen, notably with a dearth of good line cooks.

There's clearly a living-wage issue here -- if you're going to work for shit pay (like $3.35/hour for tipped roles), maybe you'll seek a job that isn't as back-breaking and benefits-free as a restaurant industry work -- but blaming it on shiftless poor people strikes me as utterly divorced from the realities of the restaurant business. With fitful progress on increasing the minimum wage, some restaurateurs are trying to address the issue with surcharges for back-of-the-house staff and no-tipping policies.

The bigger problem is an unsustainable overexpansion of restaurant seats in Boston in general, which I place squarely on the shoulders of the large-format, national chain restaurants in the Seaport and elsewhere that are sucking up talent and dining dollars from better, locally-owned restaurants. These deep-pocketed chains are gutting the innovative indies that make our restaurant scene unique and vibrant, and distinguish it from the many other US cities that are dominated by those chains. As I put it in that same series of interviews, "Without those independents, we’re just Des Moines with oysters."

It doesn't help that Byrne loves and defends those Seaport places. Part of this is market-driven -- the Seaport succeeds because it gives many diners what they want -- but I see it as a pernicious Wal-Mart effect. I don't want to see brighter, less mainstream talents driven out of business by middlebrow, corporate-concept chain restaurants with scale economy advantages. If you don't want that either, support your local indies, I beg you.

Kerry is who he is, politically. He writes for the Herald, after all. But on this score, as he is on many politically-charged questions (like climate change), the facts just aren't on his side.

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What amazes me:

is how the food service industry can place the food in front of me for the price it does. High end restaurants have ambience, location and large expenses. Smaller mom & pops have great food (the ones that stay in business), plenty of it and decent prices. Chains have consistency.
I can walk into a Subway and get a chicken bacon foot long with lotsa veggies for less than ten bucks.

As someone else commented, it's the competition in the industry that drives the low prices.

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Fact, not fantasy

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From Gary Alexander the Secretary of Public Welfare, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (a state best known for its broke capital Harrisburg). As quantified, and explained by Alexander, "the single mom is better off earnings gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-27/when-work-punished-tragedy-amer...

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Yes, it's a silly article

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at least as far as most people are concerned. However, at the better (more expensive, for the sake of argument) restaurants, customers should expect better than average service that matches what they're paying. Not unreasonable. Should a customer be a (redacted b-word)? No, of course not. But restaurateurs are notorious for their, on average, sleazy business models.

Honestly, there are at least two subjects that'll bring out the often self righteous outrage (self righteous, imho, the majority of times) on uhub: bikes and race related issues. The ability some have to inject alleged racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. into almost any issue is tedious. I understand we're now in an election year and voter blocks need to be radicalized and riled up, but the predictability of shills and trolls is still goofy and asinine, and doesn't help foster real communication, respect, and understanding if not acceptance; it just hardens many people, and turns off others.

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If you read a Herald writer using the term "welfare

society" and understand it to mean "shiftless black and brown people", you're not injecting alleged racism into the discussion, you're just hearing the dog whistle he intended you to hear. That's how you're supposed to do it: with code words.

This is why Trump so horrifies the GOP establishment: he echoes the shameless racism, xenophobia, homophobia, misogyny and religious intolerance of the rabid GOP base without giving it an annoying coat of euphemistic varnish. Code words for bigotry are what establishment GOP politicians have always relied on to have it both ways: rile up the base but still have a shot of winning in the general election.

What country-club Republicans fear is that Trump's refusal to play the hide-the-hatred game will win him the nomination but doom him in the general with the broader electorate that finds that bigotry repugnant. I suspect that they're correct.

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Did it hit a raw nerve

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Or do you have a guilty conscious? BTW: our progressive Demcratic president is INCREASING the number of both low and highly skilled foreign workers and immigrants, legal and illegal. This is what's keeping wages stagnant and making it very difficult for low skilled, poorly educated American workers OF ALL SKIN COLORS, including especialy black people who follow t that descriptor on.

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I am truly curious where your

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I am truly curious where your numbers on immigration come from. I don't remember any substantial increases in immigration programs in recent years. Yes, the POTUS gave us DACA kids, but total illegal immigrant population has leveled off over the last 5 years. And we have had a record number of deportations under the Obama administration.

Congress certainly hasn't passed any new programs for immigration nor increased visa caps, at least that I'm aware of.

Citation needed...

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Cite

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"Obama plans to award via executive order work permits to 100,000 foreign college grads (including deportable aliens) to compete with U.S. workers for jobs. Unlike Americans, most have had free tuition rides from their sponsoring countries and carry no student loan debt. This enables them to tolerate lower wages than American grads saddled with high loan costs that can't be shirked even in bankruptcy court.

The foreigners are also exempt from ObamaCare rules that can add as much as $20,000 in costs per domestic worker for employers struggling to compete in the low-growth economy that Obama has overseen.

In short, Obama's move to bring in highly educated foreign labor hurts U.S. white-collar workers as much as the border surge undermined blue-collar workers."

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/123115-787723-obama-floods-the-...

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Another editorial dispatch from Wingnuttia

Quote: "But more likely, it's the result of a European Union-style effort [by Obama] to change the face of America — rendering its cultural norms null amid the left's moral relativism through the import of chaotic newcomers from around the world."

Uh-huh. Do you really believe this kind of thing, or do you just put it up to troll rational people?

Do you have another source for this speculative extrapolation on what that recent Homeland Security order actually means? Because I can't find a citation of it outside of wacko-rightie "journals" like Breitbart, whose founder famously admitted he would tell any lie, no matter how disgusting, if the thought it would help conservative causes, and went on to prove his point again and again till he helpfully dropped dead, though his minions continue to uphold his tradition of shameless, hateful right-wing propaganda. (Seriously, if you are reading Breitbart earnestly, you have the critical thinking skills of a gnat.)

In short, your sources reek of rightie nutbaggery. Try again.

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Another clueless response from Dimwittia

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You did all that paranoid bitching instead of taking two minutes to at least glance at the executive summary of the HLS proposed rule to see you were wrong. This is after you pitched a childish fit over widely reported BLS statistics. Stop acting like a jackass and read it or do you need a ThinkProgress intyrn to womynsplain it to you? I won't post the link so you'll have to drag your sorry ass back to Breitbart to find it.

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Again, you don't appear to have any sources that aren't

from the Right-Wing Bubble on this story.

It would be more convincing if you could cite another source besides this spittle-flecked editorial that concludes from its unsourced version of the Homeland Security rule that "Oh, noooes, Obama is trying to make us all un-Americans!" (Again, I'll ask: do you really believe that nonsense? Because posting it without qualification suggests you do, in which case, you're around the bend.)

Suggesting I go back to Breitbart isn't helpful; as I noted before, only gullible idiots or the willfully delusional could possibly take that site seriously. You're not one of those people, too, are you?

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So, my choices are, read that 181-page document, or trust

Breitbart or whatever other rightie la-la-looney-tunes sources you rely on to interpret it faithfully for me?

Just checking. And once more: do you actually read Breitbart and believe what it tells you? Proving you can spell five-letter insults is no substitute for your candor on this score.

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Says a lot

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Yes, read the document. It's that simple. Take a break from Yelp.

The original question was for cites of new immigration plans. This is is one. Let it go. You lost.

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Oof, that was some tough sledding.

So I read that beast. Do you routinely go through huge rafts of bureaucratic gobbledygook like this? That was punishing.

I now recognize this as the result of some long-discussed policy reforms to loosen restrictions on H-1B workers. They were mainly being pushed for by Silicon Valley tech giants (think Google, Facebook, et. al.), who argue that they are facing a resource crunch, especially for engineering talent, in a global market.

This strikes me as credible enough, a tradeoff between the job prospects of some American tech workers and the competitiveness of one of the big homegrown growth drivers of American industry.

I still see a lot of speculation in the analysis of the potential results here (the policy hasn't been enacted, is in the public-comment phase for another six weeks.) For instance, where is the evidence that H-1Bs work for significantly less than their American counterparts? From what I know of tech salaries, especially in the Valley, they're not working for less -- talent is talent, and gets competed for, regardless of whether they're carrying student debt loads or not.

So I'm curious: if you are against letting -- what is it, 100,000? -- skilled foreign workers into the country to compete for American jobs, how do you feel about outsourcing by American companies, which has had an infinitely greater impact on American standards of living, sending tens of millions of good, middle-class jobs in manufacturing, services and other sectors to countries with lower labor costs?

Would you be in favor of putting up barriers or incentives to reduce that ongoing outflow of jobs? After all, both outsourcing and the fight for laxer H-1B standards are efforts by American companies to remain competitive in an increasingly globalized economy, that in the process harm Americans' wages and employment prospects. Why is one okay and not the other? Where do you draw the line between corporate profits and the health of the middle class?

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Thanks for correcting another right-wing anon's

pitiful grasp of the facts on immigration. I don't think Mexican repatriation is a huge part of the local restaurant industry shortage. They're a relatively small ex-pat population in Greater Boston compared to folks from the DR, El Salvador, Colombia and Brazil. The real issue is competition fueled by rapid expansion chasing too small a skilled labor pool.

Now, can you explain to me what that first part of anon's gibbering rant was all about? What's a "guilty conscious"?

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Immigration comes from

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Immigration comes from multiple countries and it's not a partisan issue unless people make it a partisan issue. Yes, there are bills that are proposing a vast increase in low skill visa labor, and those do have an impact on the job market.

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The study your article cites was produced by CIS, a

rabidly anti-immigrant "think tank" with ties to white supremacists and eugenicists. Nice people you are using to support your point there.

Your sources, once again, do not stand up to scrutiny. No wonder you hide behind an anon tag.

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Actually their staff is multi

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Actually their staff is multi religious and multi racial.

It's not "anti immigrant" to ask for a debate about immigration policy.

You would rather call people names than offer your own facts, of which, you have produced none.

Every post of yours of yours is caustic in tone and brings little to the discussion. You have a severe data deficit on this debate. Please get started and offer something of substance, or run along.

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Even the Wall Street Journal has called out CIS

as part of a network of foaming-at-the-mouth anti-immigrant groups founded or funded by John Tanton, who in turn has received millions in funding from the white supremacist Pioneer Fund, which advocates eugenics to achieve "racial purity".

Still don't see the problem with citing a study by this organization to support your point about immigration?

If I were you, I'd cower behind an anon tag, too.

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Oh please, you can very

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Oh please, you can very quickly find sources using a search engine without knowing what perspective they are coming from. You will get no traction on that matter. You have yet to produce your own sources.

Here's one from Fortune Magazine citing the Pew Research center. Are you going to call them names too?

"growing their share of the population to near record levels, according to a new study by the Pew Research Center."

http://fortune.com/2015/09/28/foreign-born-population-us-study/

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Everything you have posted

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Everything you have posted after the first sentence is irrelevant because according to this video the director has recanted his affiliation and stated they only received an initial grant. They do however take seem to take a very firm stance on immigration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePBtcNJYBOs

Nonetheless, it is reckless for you to imply anything for merely linking to an article that was selected from an internet search for its data about the immi population rather than a thorough investigation of it's sources. That is not an endorsement of what the group stands for.

Your slash and burn approach to commentary is really unnecessary and not productive.

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Whoops, that should be, after

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Whoops, that should be, after the first comma, not after the first sentence. Anyway, all the original comment was meant to explain was that the imgrnt population of the country is near or at an all time high. It was not meant to be political.

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That's useful information,

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That's useful information, though it stops at 2010, so there isn't much application to the current POTUS.

Yes, the US population that is foreign born has increased over the years. And that's due to a lot of factors, including the general strength of the US economy.

But you'll notice that the curve is bending downward. It jumped about 11M in the 1990s, but only about 9M in the 2000s (growth dropped from 57% to 28%). I'm sure there are a number of factors involved, but we know that illegal immigration population is flat and that there aren't any big programs that are adding to the skilled immigrant pools. The US has made it harder to come here compared to previous generations.

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Are posts able to be edited?

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Are posts able to be edited? It seems like extra sentences are showing up much later.

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Yes, I edited my prior post to make it clearer

which racist "think tank" your article was citing as the source of an immigration study, i.e., CIS.

Maybe if you registered under a uHub ID, you could edit your posts, too. Why exactly would you not do that, anyway?

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Two other sources have been

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Two other sources have been posted which show just about the same thing. As much as you relish pointing out the issues with that particular group, others have been provided. Pardon me for not knowing the political ins and outs of every organization.

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I don't register because I

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I don't register because I can't really be bothered. I'm not currently researching the background of every group I site on rather meaningless internet debate. It's very easy to find articles written about anything to support your arguments, you haven't done so however.

growing their share of the population to near record levels, according to a new study by the Pew Research Center.

Here's Fortune saying almost exactly the same thing citing Pew Research Center.

"growing their share of the population to near record levels, according to a new study by the Pew Research Center."

http://fortune.com/2015/09/28/foreign-born-population-us-study/

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Can't be bothered?

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For somebody who can't be bothered, you sure are putting a lot of effort into this argument.

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I don't register on websites

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I don't register on websites unless I have to purchase something. I will respond to posts that suggest very incorrect and unkind things.

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I don't get it, Adam. It

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I don't get it, Adam. It wasn't meant to be an affront to UHub. It's just how a lot of people do things.

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I obviously think anon comments are useful

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It's why I still allow them long after many other sites have abandoned them and even though it means I have to spend a fair amount of time going through the queue that anonymous comments go into (a queue that as I type is up to about 21 messages, many of them, I suspect, from your keyboard).

What got me was that you started out saying you don't have the time to be bothered registering for an account but have obviously spent way more time responding to one poster here. But we've had that discussion already, apologies for repeating myself.

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When the comments don't go

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When the comments don't go through I'm assuming that they get caught in the system, so I basically retype the same thing after a while. You have to approve them first? My apologies.

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Yep, and my apologies

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I need to figure out how to pop up a box or something that alerts anonymous commenters to that fact after you post.

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Haha, that would be good.

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Haha, that would be good. Anyway, that's why I typed so many, I thought they were being eaten. Anyway, you can ignore all the earlier stuff. I might type one more thought and leave this discussion.

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Wait, you actually totally do

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Wait, you actually totally do have a confirmation. But it's a very thing green strip at the top which is kind of easy to miss when you are looking further down the page. Maybe just make it bigger and more obvious.

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awwww

Anon was astonished to discover that, when Adam said "As you wish," he was really saying "I love you."

jk jk jk, sorry

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Where did the post offer an

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Where did the post offer an endorsement or anything even remotely related to that individual. It didn't.

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Several anons mentioned

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Several anons mentioned immigration as part of the problem, and our "liberal" president as a promoter of the increased immigration that was causing the restaurant industry woes the conservative writer from the herald first wrote about. Its just ironic that conservatives are complaining about immigration being a problem when an immigrant is one of the most conservative politicians running for president, yet that issue is not being brought up my Fox, the Herald, or other right wing media outlets.

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Ironically, you're wrong.

"Ironically, Ted Cruz is an immigrant."

Nope, sorry.

"Cruz -- full name: Rafael Edward Cruz --was born in Canada in 1970 because his father was working for the oil industry there"

His mother, born in Delaware, is an American citizen.

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"..and he at some point

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"..and he at some point immigrated to the United States from Canada."

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Let's see Ted Cruz's birth certificate.

Oh, that's the short-form one? Let's see the long-form one. Hmm, that looks like a fake to me, and I suspect the local newspapers that printed his birth announcements were conspiring with his family in the event that Rafael wanted to run for President in the future.

Also, still waiting on the proof that Trump's father wasn't an orangutan. Where's the birth certificate? How can we be sure that he's not the mutant offspring of Bibendum, a bag of orange cotton candy, and a rotten pumpkin?

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Let me get this straight

So what you are saying is that if Obama had been born in Kenya like the nut jobs say it wouldn't have made a difference?

Because Cruz was actually born outside America, to a father who wasn't American- the same thing Orly and her bunch got their panties all bunched up about when it wasn't even true about the President.

Personally I'm sick of the unamerican candidates those folks keep throwing at us. I'd rather elect an American. First they want us to vote for a Panamanian, then a Mexican, and now a damned Canuck. Basta ya!

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