WBZ reports on the new convenience-store battle on East Broadway between the chain and a former franchisee who objected to being forced to sell hot food nobody was buying.
7-11 pushed out good junk food for their own branded junk food which doesn't measure up. This happens everywhere now with all types of items. Supermarket, pharmacy, etc. Sad!
The reason people like stores with recognizable brands is that they know what to expect whenever and wherever they visit. That's why thousands of store owners pay the fees and accept the terms. I'm going out on a UHub limb and admit that I like and look for the 7-Eleven brand. I wish they were more like the stores of their Japanese owners' homeland, with more healthy food and diverse services, but they're getting there. If you want to own or patronize a 6-12, go for it (until the lawyers make the store change its name), but don't call it a 7-Eleven and refuse to deliver its services.
There are variations in product offerings among different Dunkin Donuts or McDonalds locations, for instance. If I go to a small CVS (such as Charles Circle), I may not find everything I've come to expect from going to a larger one (such as Porter or Davis Square).
Every CVS has cold drinks. Some have more variety then others, but if you want a cold drink you can find one irrespective of the size store.
This guy didn't want to offer any hot food which is something 7-11 advertises. It's not surprising they argued he was breaching his franchise agreement.
I order many egg dishes without the egg. It's not as disconcerting to the server/clerk as you'd expect. You should try it @ McD's next time you have a craving for a sausage biscuit and you're not near a Waffle House.
I get the guy's point that he doesn't want to conform to their rules -- which is fine -- but the reason why chain stores are successful is that they are identical.
I wish him luck with his indie brand. If I lived nearby I'd patronize it. But I'd still expect a 7-11 to have Hot Dogs. (And yes, I eat the Hot Dogs. Sometimes you just want something cheap and quick if you only have a few minutes.)
If you read the source story (WBZ got it from the Globe, let's be honest about it) you'll see that in addition to the interpersonal issues that can sour any business relationship, corporate was asking him to expand food service as a pilot project, which would have entailed increased labor costs (i.e. he would have to have an employee dedicated to the pizza and wings.)
My takeaway on this is that corporate should have left well enough alone. And no, I don't begrudge anyone enjoying 7-11.
(i.e. he would have to have an employee dedicated to the pizza and wings.)
Huh? No 7-11 I've ever been in has had a dedicated employee for the hot food. If anything, I would think they'd require an employee dedicated to the wall of voluntary tax payments for the mathematically challenged (i.e. the scratch tickets that come in endless flavors of inevitable loss)** that is the most prominent feature of any convenience store these days.
**which. BTW, is clearly visible in the BDC photo accompanying the story
You read the article (which for some reason I cannot find online. Yay print media!) This was something new. Perhaps a good initiative on the part of the parent company, but still, the requirement was a dedicated employee. And since the franchisee was getting written up for slight infractions, something tells me that the supervisor would be REQUIRING the extra body.
And I think you missed my point. If NOT having a dedicated employee for the hot food is apparently the NORM in every 7-11 I've been in - and no, I don't buy the hot food when I go into a 7-11, but I see others do so, and it's pretty obvious that any employee is allowed to serve the hot food to them -, then what is so "special" about this situation that it requires a dedicated employee.
Judging from what little background about this situation that the ace investigative reporting team at the Glob(e) has provided us with, it's still pretty clear that there's far more to this story than just "oh, I don't want to sell hot food. Goodbye!"
I'm just assuming that the north of Boston edition of the Globe had a different version of the story. Here's what the city's version of the story said
But then, he says, the field consultant for the region forced him to become the first store in the area to start offering pizza and chicken wings. Not only that, Musa said he was told he'd have to pay for an employee to work the hot foods counter all the time
he was told he'd have to pay for an employee to work the hot foods counter all the time
Which apparently is NOT THE STANDARD at any other 7-11, as I've been pointing out. And has 7-11 confirmed that this request was made. Or are we expected to believe that the owner's side of the story is the absolute truth?
And roadman is just the man to find it! We all look forward breathlessly to reading the results of your exhaustive investigation. Don't keep us hanging, bro.
7-11 has a reputation for aggressively pushing franchisees out. When successful, they can resell the location to a new franchisee and collect another $$$,$$$ fee.
The outcome might be what 7-11 intended, except for the part where the old franchisee set up shop across the street.
The woman who runs the counter is equally nice. I'm in there all the time to pick up UPS packages, which is really the sweetest gig they have going. The foot traffic of people in there with UPS notices must really pad his numbers quite a bit. Good for them for making it work.
Unrealized by many franchisees when they enter into an agreement with their corporate brand owners, is the scope of control the parent company has over the individual operator.
Seven - Eleven is hardly unique. Dunkin Donuts is notorious for its bad relationships with it store operators. Typically the parent company gets a signicant portion of the individual store's top line revenue simply because it owns the brand name (5+ %) is not unusual).
The parent company incurs little or no expense but has domain over all activities that do or may incur in the future. They control what products are sold, what are introduced or what are discontinued. The also charge the franchisee for a prorated portion of corporate's operating expenses and costs (e.g. Accounting/Finance, Legal, procurement & Distribution, HR, Marketing, New Product Development, etc.). The franchising in turn has no input or say so about any of the decisions arising from those functionalities. They can't set prices, run their own sales promotions or engage in independent procurement. More over, if they have business situations that require expertise, they are on their own as they are not allowed to utilize any corporate admin services in the operation of their individual businesses.
There are 2 key examples of how this impacts the individual operators:
Let's say the operator has a product that sells well, has good margins and is popular with customers. The parent company decides (because the product doesn't do well in other regions of the country) it no long wants to carry the product - they inform the operator not to sell it any more - the operator takes the financial hit & has the customer relations issues to deal with. If the operator continues to sell the product, he has breached the franchise agreement and could (often does) incur sanctions and penalties.
Another example (which can has enormous impact on an operator) is when the parent company decides introduce a new product. Food products are particular onerous on the operator because the franchisee is charged for the prep equipment, training costs, etc. associated with selling the new product and pays any associated labor costs. If the product does not sell, too bad for the operator.
Dunkin Donuts hot sandwich offerings were generally a disaster for franchisees...often the convection cooking equipment cost in the $10's of thousands, required additional labor, maintenance and so on. Eventually DD backed off on some of the products because of a lack of consumer interest but the franchisee...too late for the operator because he already took the financial hit. Look at what happened to McDonalds - home office decided to sell burgers for a $1 each - franchisees got murdered in the process often barely breaking even on this promotion.
My observation and experience working with operators has been that inevitably they probably are better off running their same business as an independent, autonomous entity.
by agreeing to a contract without first fully reading and understanding the terms and requirements, or conferring with a competent lawyer who can explain the terms and requirements to them.
A friend of mine who owned an independent convenience store for almost twenty years and I were discussing this story, and he told me about how he was approached by 7-11 at one point about becoming a franchisee. Unlike the man in this story, my friend actually took the time to fully read the agreement 7-11 wanted him to sign. He also had a very good lawyer that reviewed the agreement as well. After all this, his answer to 7-11 was "Thanks, but no thanks."
I used to run the Midas in Brookline. The owner was a Haitian guy who had been sold fools gold in the form of Midas as the American dream. He had to pay 10%of gross(not profit)to Midas. So if we did a $1000 exhaust job Midas took $100 off the top. I had worked at other shops and told him what a scam it was (when was the last time Midas had a big advertisement campaign,where does all the money go?)
On top of that he had to honor Midas lifetime brakes and mufflers promotions and had to pay out of pocket for them and just deduct the cost from the 10% royalty check he wrote each month.
It was a great lesson in how franchises work (Most target immigrants who otherwise would not know how to open a business) and I try to avoid franchises like the plague. The sad part is alot of franchises are just small LLCs themselves losing money who got suckered into an agreement.
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Corporate arrogance
You see it in every industry. Good luck to this guy.
If 7-11's standard is that hot food is supposed to be available
in EVERY store, it's hardly corporate arrogance to require a franchisee to meet that standard.
Although, I can't help but be reminded of the Simpson's episode when Homer went to work at the Kwik-E-Mart:
I like Snake robbing him in a dystopian future episode
"What is it that you want? We're a cashless society!"
McDonalds has the golden arches...
while McDoogle's has.. THE GOLDEN ARCS....
Best news story of the day right here.
How about the local donut shop
who got a cease and desist letter from Dunk's because they put up a sign with the slogan "North Runs On Mikes".
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2017/05/31/dunkin-donuts-sends-ce...
Now THAT's corporate arrogance.
Bonus Arrogance
Only the Northeast runs on Dunkin, if that.
Vast swaths of heavily populated areas of the US are Dunk-free zones.
You're insane
Outside of the west coast, vast swaths of [the] heavily populated ares of the US are saturated with Dunkin Donuts.
McDowell's
"Who's that?"
"Oh, just some guy I met in the bathroom." Gonna rain cats and dogs next week, good time to rewatch that.
7-11 pushed out good junk
7-11 pushed out good junk food for their own branded junk food which doesn't measure up. This happens everywhere now with all types of items. Supermarket, pharmacy, etc. Sad!
Hmmm. Fixation on junk food,
Hmmm. Fixation on junk food, random exclamations....
Did you get locked out of twitter again, Mr. President?
As an aside, I'm glad your spelling issue seems to have cleared itself up.
6-12
Beat me to it
He doesn't get it
The reason people like stores with recognizable brands is that they know what to expect whenever and wherever they visit. That's why thousands of store owners pay the fees and accept the terms. I'm going out on a UHub limb and admit that I like and look for the 7-Eleven brand. I wish they were more like the stores of their Japanese owners' homeland, with more healthy food and diverse services, but they're getting there. If you want to own or patronize a 6-12, go for it (until the lawyers make the store change its name), but don't call it a 7-Eleven and refuse to deliver its services.
Although not all brands are totally uniform
There are variations in product offerings among different Dunkin Donuts or McDonalds locations, for instance. If I go to a small CVS (such as Charles Circle), I may not find everything I've come to expect from going to a larger one (such as Porter or Davis Square).
Akin to cold drinks
Every CVS has cold drinks. Some have more variety then others, but if you want a cold drink you can find one irrespective of the size store.
This guy didn't want to offer any hot food which is something 7-11 advertises. It's not surprising they argued he was breaching his franchise agreement.
McDonald's has salmon burgers in Norway
Why can't we get sandwiches like that?
I'd settle for being able to get a plain sausage biscuit
on the All-Day Breakfast Menu. You can get a Sausage Biscuit With Egg, but not a plain one.
And no, I don't want to even think of the clerk's reaction if I tried to order "sausage biscuit with egg, but hold the egg."
Eh, not that shocking
I order many egg dishes without the egg. It's not as disconcerting to the server/clerk as you'd expect. You should try it @ McD's next time you have a craving for a sausage biscuit and you're not near a Waffle House.
I may try that - thanks.
Speaking of Waffle House:
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Five Easy Pieces
Have to agree
I get the guy's point that he doesn't want to conform to their rules -- which is fine -- but the reason why chain stores are successful is that they are identical.
I wish him luck with his indie brand. If I lived nearby I'd patronize it. But I'd still expect a 7-11 to have Hot Dogs. (And yes, I eat the Hot Dogs. Sometimes you just want something cheap and quick if you only have a few minutes.)
But here's the thing
If you read the source story (WBZ got it from the Globe, let's be honest about it) you'll see that in addition to the interpersonal issues that can sour any business relationship, corporate was asking him to expand food service as a pilot project, which would have entailed increased labor costs (i.e. he would have to have an employee dedicated to the pizza and wings.)
My takeaway on this is that corporate should have left well enough alone. And no, I don't begrudge anyone enjoying 7-11.
(i.e. he would have to have
Huh? No 7-11 I've ever been in has had a dedicated employee for the hot food. If anything, I would think they'd require an employee dedicated to the wall of voluntary tax payments for the mathematically challenged (i.e. the scratch tickets that come in endless flavors of inevitable loss)** that is the most prominent feature of any convenience store these days.
**which. BTW, is clearly visible in the BDC photo accompanying the story
It's a pilot project, not usual activity
You read the article (which for some reason I cannot find online. Yay print media!) This was something new. Perhaps a good initiative on the part of the parent company, but still, the requirement was a dedicated employee. And since the franchisee was getting written up for slight infractions, something tells me that the supervisor would be REQUIRING the extra body.
Yes, I did read the article
And I think you missed my point. If NOT having a dedicated employee for the hot food is apparently the NORM in every 7-11 I've been in - and no, I don't buy the hot food when I go into a 7-11, but I see others do so, and it's pretty obvious that any employee is allowed to serve the hot food to them -, then what is so "special" about this situation that it requires a dedicated employee.
Judging from what little background about this situation that the ace investigative reporting team at the Glob(e) has provided us with, it's still pretty clear that there's far more to this story than just "oh, I don't want to sell hot food. Goodbye!"
I don't know
I'm just assuming that the north of Boston edition of the Globe had a different version of the story. Here's what the city's version of the story said
he was told he'd have to pay
Which apparently is NOT THE STANDARD at any other 7-11, as I've been pointing out. And has 7-11 confirmed that this request was made. Or are we expected to believe that the owner's side of the story is the absolute truth?
WE NEED THE TRUTH!!
And roadman is just the man to find it! We all look forward breathlessly to reading the results of your exhaustive investigation. Don't keep us hanging, bro.
And how long have you worked at 7-11?
Because the only thing we have is someone who said that due to this pilot project (i.e., not the standard m.o.) he had to do it.
But sure, you've been to every 7-11 and know exactly what corporate is asking at all times.
7-11 has a reputation for
7-11 has a reputation for aggressively pushing franchisees out. When successful, they can resell the location to a new franchisee and collect another $$$,$$$ fee.
The outcome might be what 7-11 intended, except for the part where the old franchisee set up shop across the street.
-- corporate was asking him
-- corporate was asking him to expand food service --
From a different article (globe):
-- the field consultant for the region forced him to become the first store in the area to start offering pizza and chicken wings --
Not your fault, but asking and forcing make a world of difference.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/05/31/war-with-eleven-start-twelv...
Yes, yes
I was doing that from memory, so the mistake isn't too bad.
And thanks for the link.
This is like the Twilight Zone
Why is this hitting the news now? He's been open for almost two years now. On a side note he is a nice guy and appreciates your business.
Agreed!
The woman who runs the counter is equally nice. I'm in there all the time to pick up UPS packages, which is really the sweetest gig they have going. The foot traffic of people in there with UPS notices must really pad his numbers quite a bit. Good for them for making it work.
Why is this a story now?
Because Billy Baker pitched the idea and the powers that be said it sounded good.
Franchisee Contracts are convoluted and often lopsided agreement
Unrealized by many franchisees when they enter into an agreement with their corporate brand owners, is the scope of control the parent company has over the individual operator.
Seven - Eleven is hardly unique. Dunkin Donuts is notorious for its bad relationships with it store operators. Typically the parent company gets a signicant portion of the individual store's top line revenue simply because it owns the brand name (5+ %) is not unusual).
The parent company incurs little or no expense but has domain over all activities that do or may incur in the future. They control what products are sold, what are introduced or what are discontinued. The also charge the franchisee for a prorated portion of corporate's operating expenses and costs (e.g. Accounting/Finance, Legal, procurement & Distribution, HR, Marketing, New Product Development, etc.). The franchising in turn has no input or say so about any of the decisions arising from those functionalities. They can't set prices, run their own sales promotions or engage in independent procurement. More over, if they have business situations that require expertise, they are on their own as they are not allowed to utilize any corporate admin services in the operation of their individual businesses.
There are 2 key examples of how this impacts the individual operators:
Let's say the operator has a product that sells well, has good margins and is popular with customers. The parent company decides (because the product doesn't do well in other regions of the country) it no long wants to carry the product - they inform the operator not to sell it any more - the operator takes the financial hit & has the customer relations issues to deal with. If the operator continues to sell the product, he has breached the franchise agreement and could (often does) incur sanctions and penalties.
Another example (which can has enormous impact on an operator) is when the parent company decides introduce a new product. Food products are particular onerous on the operator because the franchisee is charged for the prep equipment, training costs, etc. associated with selling the new product and pays any associated labor costs. If the product does not sell, too bad for the operator.
Dunkin Donuts hot sandwich offerings were generally a disaster for franchisees...often the convection cooking equipment cost in the $10's of thousands, required additional labor, maintenance and so on. Eventually DD backed off on some of the products because of a lack of consumer interest but the franchisee...too late for the operator because he already took the financial hit. Look at what happened to McDonalds - home office decided to sell burgers for a $1 each - franchisees got murdered in the process often barely breaking even on this promotion.
My observation and experience working with operators has been that inevitably they probably are better off running their same business as an independent, autonomous entity.
It's amazing how easily one can get into trouble
by agreeing to a contract without first fully reading and understanding the terms and requirements, or conferring with a competent lawyer who can explain the terms and requirements to them.
A friend of mine who owned an independent convenience store for almost twenty years and I were discussing this story, and he told me about how he was approached by 7-11 at one point about becoming a franchisee. Unlike the man in this story, my friend actually took the time to fully read the agreement 7-11 wanted him to sign. He also had a very good lawyer that reviewed the agreement as well. After all this, his answer to 7-11 was "Thanks, but no thanks."
Midas
I used to run the Midas in Brookline. The owner was a Haitian guy who had been sold fools gold in the form of Midas as the American dream. He had to pay 10%of gross(not profit)to Midas. So if we did a $1000 exhaust job Midas took $100 off the top. I had worked at other shops and told him what a scam it was (when was the last time Midas had a big advertisement campaign,where does all the money go?)
On top of that he had to honor Midas lifetime brakes and mufflers promotions and had to pay out of pocket for them and just deduct the cost from the 10% royalty check he wrote each month.
It was a great lesson in how franchises work (Most target immigrants who otherwise would not know how to open a business) and I try to avoid franchises like the plague. The sad part is alot of franchises are just small LLCs themselves losing money who got suckered into an agreement.