Man who says he invented e-mail enters Republican race to take on Warren next year

Ayyadurai and Waters

V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai of Cambridge, who sues Web sites for disputing his claim that he invented e-mail as a 14-year-old, announced at a right-wing gathering in Washington yesterday that he will run against Elizabeth Warren for US Senate in 2018.

Ayyadurai (left in the photo) opened his campaign with an announcement at a party by a group called MAGA3X outside the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

One of MAGA3X's organizers is Mike Cernovich, who played a key role in the misogynist GamerGate movement, which went after Boston-area game developer Brianna Wu. Wu is now running as a Democrat against incumbent US Rep. Stephen Lynch.

In a tweet, Ayyadurai said his platform will be to "Defend the American Dream!" He adds:

Time to take fight right into the belly of the beast in MA, the epi-center of Fake News, Fake History & Fake Science!

He joins Allen Waters, a retired financial consultant from Mashpee. On his Web site, Waters calls himself "a middle class, Cape Cod family man with blue-collar roots," but in a Globe article last month he stepped that up to "an angry, conservative black man with a chip on his shoulder."

Also looking at running as a Republican against Warren are failed game developer Curt Schilling and online aftermarket auto-parts magnate Rick Green.

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When did

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the Senate become a possible career path for people who have not done so well in other pursuits??? Get real.

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When Warren and Markey got elected

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We all have a chance. Senator Elizabeth Warren, on the "edge of the middle class" driving a British MG convertible in high school, lying about Native American status to snag a $350,000 job teaching one class at Harvard, flipping foreclosed homes and living in a Cambridge mansion, never held elected office. At least Sen. Ed Markey drove an ice cream truck, although neighbors at his legal address have never seen him and the grass hasn't been cut in years. Great people.

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I really would love to meet you in person.

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Just to see, ya know, how you fit all that crazy into one person.

And you can also add "British sportscars" to the running inventory of "things you know absolutely nothing about".

Driving an MG was not in any way, shape, or form a status symbol. They were very cheap, very poorly made, and a part time job just to keep running.

I guarantee Elizabeth Warren could rewire the starter, fix a heater, and stop the carbuerators from leaking before you got out your toolbox.

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Your opinion of British sports cars

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during the period of time Sen. Warren was in high school is debatable. Your follow up is a goofy snark.

What about the other observations fish made? What about the Harvard job, the Native American angle, the flipping foreclosed homes, living in a Cambridge mansion....all true. Finally Markey and the situation regarding is alleged real home and his neighbors observations.

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What ABOUT the other observations?

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1.) Stop the presses! Harvard pays it's teachers well!

2.) What angle? Half the kids I went to school with claimed they had Micmac blood in them. The other half claimed they were Irish mob. It was a family fable that didnt hold up under scrutiny. So what?

3.) I never knew making money in real estate was illegal?

4.) I think we have widely different definitions of "mansion".

5.) I have no idea what you're talking about here. Something about Markey's lawn at one of his houses? Beats me.
Maybe a link to some Howie Carr story would help?

As far as the car thing; Sorry, there is ZERO debate. MG's were the poor man's Austin Healey. It was a way for those of us with little money to pretend we knew what owning a 911 was like.

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People in my family were

People in my family were insistent that we had Mi'kmaq blood on my mothers side but it always seemed dubious to me. Looking at what we did know I figured the most we could have possibly have been was 1/32nd unless it came in from two different directions. Then I got one of those $100 tests done recently and it doesn't show up. Although there were other surprises in there. We live in an age where we can look this stuff up easily, a 17 year old Warren did not have any such ability. Luckily I never clicked any of those boxes but I was an abnormally analytical 17 year old.

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Crap Crap Crap Crap Crap

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And it's boring to have to repeat why. Again and Again and Again. Can we just move on?

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My dad had an MG from around

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My dad had an MG from around that time period. I heard lots of stories (mostly about it breaking down on desert highways) but it never once ran in my lifetime. He got it as a broke college student - McDonalds was a quarterly splurge. Definitely not a status symbol, except to other crazy gearheads who enjoy the challenge of making it run at all. Part-time job is, if anything, an understatement.

But what would he know, he only built a Super-7 and biplane from kits. Never even got formally certified in British Sportscar Opinion-Having. SAD!

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If you can't argue on policy then beat a dead horse?

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How about arguing a subject on the basis of policy instead of pulling out the dead horse that you beat everytime you have an opportunity to attack Warren?

What I see in comments such as this is that even if Trump is unsuccessful in any other effort the one thing he has successfully accomplished is to demonstrate that there still are many people in the U.S. who prefer lies to truth, who enjoy putting other people down, who are psychological sadists that derive satisfaction from trying to cause harm to others.

The question about writers of malware code is why do they do it? What satisfaction do the developers of computer viruses get when they don't see the people who they frustrate? The answer to that question is the answer here: There are people whose pleasure is generated by the knowledge that they are causing strife.

The ancient Greeks understood that there are psychological sadists who derive a perverse pleasure from causing strife and creating conflict. Writ large that is much of what the Iliad and Odyssey are about. This need to cause harm is ancient; it is an affliction of bent and distorted human psyche. Under the umbrella of Trump we can see that it is alive and well in the U.S. today.

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Unwrap your bloody sock from

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Unwrap your bloody sock from the Herald during the next commercial break from the O'Reilly Factor. The bottom half of this country fell for that line of bullshit but anybody with their own teeth won't. We elected Senator Warren because we agreed with her views and because the Centerfold just wasn't our cuppa tea. Sorry.

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Fishy, the

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difference is that Markey and Warren have both been very successful in their previous positions, while the same can't be said for the current sad excuses in the Republican party vying for Senate in MA.

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Great!

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Just what we need.. Another republican who lies and sues running for public office. /snark

and ugh.. looked at his Wiki page.. He was married (but now separated) to Fran Drescher?!?!?

Edit: Oh for FFS.. he actually said this?

Time to take fight right into the belly of the beast in MA, the epi-center of Fake News, Fake History & Fake Science!

It's clear most of the republican party has just lost it's mind.

sigh... but let me get the popcorn ready, this is gonna be a good race. #Warren2018

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Cybah, worried about fake?

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Join me for one of Sen. Elizabeth Warren's recipes from "Pow Wow Chow." Perhaps the Trail of Tears crab cakes (plagiarized from NY Times) as a starter?

As someone from a protected class, you should be railing against Warren, who at best is laughably 1/32 Native American but knowingly lied to get ahead.

Although we disagree politically, you usually have integrity. To support the despicable Warren and condone her, is akin to supporting the fakers (miles away) who claimed to be injured at the Islamic bombing of the Boston Marathon. Tragic.

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So what?

Her family told her that was her history.

Just like yours told you that they came legally.

It is a MUCH bigger lie to impersonate a police officer while telling whopper lies about it that are very easily debunked.

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Impersonating a Native American?

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It is a MUCH bigger lie to impersonate a police officer while telling whopper lies about it that are very easily debunked.

Haha! Those of us who carried the badge don't fake it. God Bless all of our retired public employees who get the check this Tuesday on the last day of the month. I enjoy the "direct deposit" feature. I wonder if Sen. Warren collects the Native American check on the same day, or did she decline that after "becoming white" once granted tenure after blocking true minorities from the job?

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Meanwhile

You clearly know nothing whatsoever about how the survey works at Harvard. I do, because I worked there and filled it out AFTER I had already been hired.

Extremely irrelevant anyway. This was a sitting senator's ONLY campaign concept when he ran against her. EVERYONE heard it OVER and OVER and OVER again.

Guess what? SHE WON because NOBODY CARED. It was a pile of bullshit and your beloved Scotty Rovepuppet LOST.

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Just Go Away

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Just go away Fish.. just go away.

I'm not even gonna comment.. really.. so much I could say about your pal Trump... just so much to say.

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You know what's revolting?

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You know what's revolting? An idiot throwback white man like you, using a form that someone once filled out as a "get out of jail free" card to recite tired racial stereotypes at every opportunity. Your transparent joy in behaving in antisocial ways is sickening. You are a contemptible weak excuse for a human being, and society would be better off without you.

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Confused

One of MAGA3X's organizers is Mike Cernovich, who played a key role in the misogynist GamerGate movement, which went after Boston-area game developer Brianna Wu - who is now running as a Democrat against incumbent US Rep. Stephen Lynch.

Is Cernovich or Wu running against Lynch?

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It's OK

Even the best of us dangle our modifiers from time to time.

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The guy who invented email vs woman who is no longer Cherokee?

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Never heard of this guy but would rather vote for a man from India than a fake Indian. Red dot or fake feathers? Warren's handlers will likely keep her off the debate stage, seeing that her fake affirmative action claims, "Pow Wow Chow" recipes (crab cakes on the Trail of Tears) and hidden Harvard application for employment etc. are indefensible.

Interesting that the "progressive media" is now belittling those from India, like meteorologist Mish Michaels and now V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai. Yet they will trip over themselves to call President Trump racist. The elderly, lying Warren, with the finger shaking and head trembling, akin to Parkinson's, would be wiped out by a strong candidate. V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai has my vote, unless someone better comes along.

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All this

Coming from a man who claims to be a cop and also claims that he would arrest/detain someone during a traffic stop if their SSN didn't match their state of birth (neither of which are on a driver's license).

And who also expected to get his passport stamped on a domestic flight to a national airport.

Your lies are way beyond any allegations made against Warren (which happen to be untrue, and I know that because I used to work at Harvard and know their policy on ethnicity).

Just give it a rest, pops. Please deposit your fecal matter in an appropriate receptacle.

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SSN's not on driver's license

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Knowledge of the Social Security numbering system is pertinent since Obama was born in Hawaii (publicist called it Kenya) but claimed a Social Security number reserved for a Connecticut birth, a state where he never lived. Of course, any good officer would ask questions of such a person.

Indeed, years ago the Commonwealth of MA switched from social security numbers to random S numbers on the face of the driver's license but smartly kept the SSN option on the officer's MDT (Mobile Data Terminal) in the cruiser. I doubt you know your S number (Driver's License) but certainly know your Social Security number. If a motorist is operating without a license in possession, the officer will simply enter the SSN in the proper field on his computer and get your info/photo.

Reagan National Airport handles mostly domestic flights but of course they are equipped to handle international arrivals. It was nice to get the "Reagan National" stamp on my passport during the inaugural festivities.

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Stamped after a flight from where?

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It was nice to get the "Reagan National" stamp on my passport during the inaugural festivities.

I'm sure it would have been, had it actually happened. Where did you fly in from, and on what carrier? There is no scheduled international traffic into DCA except for flights from CBP preclearance airports.

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This goes back to an earlier thread

Fishy said that he was going to get a "Reagan Airport" stamp on his passport.

Then he dug himself in further to claim that anytime a Social Security number, which is linked to where it was issued, doesn't match the place of birth then it is a fraud, and he would harass/arrest someone based on this.

That is when several of us began to doubt the "alternative facts" behind his entire on-line persona. If he is lying about "how I'd do a traffic stop" and getting a stamp at an airport that doesn't stamp, he's probably flat out lying about everything.

Never mind that SSNs were only recently issued to children - people used to wait until they wanted to get a job or had grandparents set up a trust. I know quite a few "military brats" whose SSNs don't match the state they were born in.

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One step farther

Now he's claiming he actually did get it: "It was nice to get the "Reagan National" stamp on my passport during the inaugural festivities."

Fishy is officially off the deep end. Just another lying sack of shit.

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I'm an example of that......

I was born in Cambridge, Mass. My parents got divorced when I was a little kid and I moved to Chicago with my mom. I didn't get a SS# until I was 13 and wanted to get a job at Jewel (Chicago version of Shaw's/Roche Bros), so it has the Illinois #s. Never thought this was a big deal.....

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SSNs NOT reserved according to BIRTH

They are according to STATE OF ISSUE.

For example: my husband's cousins were born in several different states where their father was stationed. By their teens, they lived on Cape Cod and that is where they got their SSNs with MA linked numbers. Why in the fuck do you hate our military families so much?

In fact, they are no longer geographically linked at all!

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Sorry, Obama's CT SSN was a typo

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Why Barack Obama’s Social Security card application might have included a Connecticut mailing address is something of a curiosity, as he had no known connection to that state at the time, but by itself that quirk is no indicator of fraud. The most likely explanation for the discrepancy is a simple clerical or typographical error: the ZIP code in the area of Honolulu where Barack Obama lived at the time he applied for his Social Security number in 1977 is 96814, while the ZIP code for Danbury, Connecticut, is 06814. Since ‘0’ and ‘9’ are similarly shaped numbers and are adjacent on typewriter keyboards, it’s not uncommon for handwritten examples to be mistaken for each other, or for one to be mistyped as the other (thereby potentially resulting in a Hawaiian resident’s application mistakenly being routed as if it had originated from Connecticut). -- far-left Snopes

And his publicist's sell-sheet claiming he was born in Kenya was also a typo.

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"Far left snopes"

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Joking aside, you need serious help.

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A...typo?

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Typos don't 'work like that.

You're a liar and you're crazy. Get help.

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On the off-chance you're capable of learning something new..

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SSNs were never a great indicator of where someone was born, and If you are younger than about 44 years old they don't even pretend to:

https://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html

And while I should probably not expect anything more coherent or factually correct from someone who relies on tired, old, racist stereotypes about Native Americans rather than any actual policy or legislative concerns to express dissatisfaction with a politician, I find this type of willful ignorance to be unacceptable in someone trusted with keeping the public safe.

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STDH

Fishy is a serial fabricator. He's like a drunk weirdo you meet at the bar. He was never a cop, and doesn't know much about the profession. He probably talks to cops so he can pretend to be one himself, but he can't remember the details right and hasn't gotten around much so doesn't know things about the world like how SSNs were assigned and that domestic flights don't require passports or customs.

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Knock yourself out

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If you want to support him, you have ample opportunity if you go to any of his countless vanity websites which are all set to take your money in exchange for one vague grandiose promise or another. For example, you could go to systemshealth.com and buy his book "The Science of Everything: The Man Who Invented Email Reveals the Science That Interconnects Everything", described thusly:

Put very simply, the problem in physics involves integrating Einstein's theory of gravitation -- which describes space, time, and matter on the vast scale of the whole universe from planets to galaxies -- with quantum mechanics, which deals with the smallest possible scale of elementary particles. So far no one in physics has been able to describe or demonstrate the unity of the forces which traverse across these infinite spatial scales -- not Einstein, and not Stephen Hawking either. Dr. V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai has discovered the Science of Everything.

He's outdone Einstein AND Hawking.. If that isn't deserving of your vote, I don't know what is!

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How about ...

Joe Malone?

Remember when he was the default answer to "we need a Republican to run against a senator"?

I'll believe that Warren is a beatable candidate when I see a decent and experienced Republican like Tisei step up.

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On.....

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...the Scott Lively ticket.

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Funny that you bring up India

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Funny that you bring up India. One of your fellow Trump supporters/gun nuts just shot 2 guys from India at a bar in Kansas(one of the many shithole red states). Why did he shoot them? He was inspired to be a hateful racist by Trump and thought they were Middle Eastern(apparently that is a crime now under Trump). Deplorable.

https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2017/02/25/kansas-community-tr...

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Inventor of email? Silly, silly, silly.

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He claims that he invented email because he received a copyright for the term email. Of course that means that every software company that uses the term email should be paying him a licensing fee. Guess what? They don't; he didn't.

Instead of beating the dead horse that you enjoy beating into dust try educating yourself on the real snake oil salesmen. This fellow claims that he discovered the holy grail of physics: A theory that encompasses all lessor theories of physics (putting into laymen's terms to keep things simple).

If he had his name would be as famous as Einstein and Hawking (whom he references in his Amazon bio). Well, his name is not that famous. As for inventing email he claims that he invented email when the technology was already in common use in business. He didn't invent email. Email goes as far back as the earliest versions of the internet.

So instead of the usual bogus ad hominem attacks against a woman that you clearly personally dislike, try doing some research to sound like someone who is educated and is actually an old dog who can learn new tricks, instead of old dog who is afraid to leave his dog house.

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IKR?

The Republican primary will most certainly be popcorn worthy.

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2 questions, if I may:

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1) We should be a one party state and country?

2) You love mocking the Republicans (and I'm not a Republican); but, they've won most of the state houses, the executive and congress.

Well, really three questions:

3) Why did the Democrats perform so poorly?

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Three answers

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1) No.

2) Gerrymandering (at least for state legislatures and the House).

3) The Democrat won the popular vote. Yes, she failed to account for what happened, but it's not like it was a landslide election.

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1. no. But any political

1. no. But any political party should be able to field people who understand what the Constitution says and what the rule of law means.

Also, you know why MA is a "one party" state? Jokes like these.

2. Because they cheat by gerrymandering and through voter suppression.

3. Because the GOP cheats by gerrymandering and through voter suppression and the Electoral College is skewed versus the "poor performance" of Clinton winning the popular vote.

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#3

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LOL. Tell your girl HRC to visit MI/WI next time.

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No 'doctor' Swirly,

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she lost. And since you are such a hardcore political true believer partisan, if a 'progressive' candidate won the electoral college, you and I both know you'd be singing a different tune.

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FYI

I've been suspicious of that electoral college since I was a freshman high school debater. So, no, I think the whole thing stinks regardless of who "wins" the slave state votes that count more than ours.

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3. It's not a "them" problem

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3. Gerrymandering is not a "they" problem. It's a "we" problem. The word itself came from Massachusetts, and it's a thing here.

And still spreading the myth that Clinton won the popular vote? Nobody "won" the popular vote for president last year. Without a runoff, we don't know who would have gotten 50.1%. The blame for that is our voting system that creates a two party system, easily fouled up by third party candidates.

The core problem is not Republicans or Democrats. It's three things: campaign finance, redistricting, and single vote ballots. Those three problems and what makes our political system (in MA and outside MA) so partisan. They give us awful candidates to choose from, in both primary and general elections. They're also what paralyzes our legal system, leaving the courts to decide so many issues that should be decided by new legislation.

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Sort of

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3. Gerrymandering is not a "they" problem. It's a "we" problem. The word itself came from Massachusetts, and it's a thing here.

It's definitely a thing here, and results in noncompetitive elections, but it's not a "keeping out the Republicans" thing. Unless you can point to a Congressional District map that 1)makes more sense and 2)would likely result in a Republican getting elected?

The core problem is not Republicans or Democrats. It's three things: campaign finance, redistricting, and single vote ballots.

I'd add (perhaps as a footnote to the first) for-profit politics in general. It may start with campaign finance, but it reaches its crescendo as politicians secure their after-Congress nest eggs in the form of positions on boards, as lobbyists, etc.

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When the Republican candidate

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When the Republican candidate for a race is someone who nobody would take seriously, then we effectively are a one-party state.

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sigh

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So this guy just abuses the court system. Sorry his story about inventing email is about believable as "fake news". Sure he can provide some source code, but everyone knows a 'mail system' existed long before his "email" ever did and has been publicly discussed in RFC's long before 1978.

Honestly looks like this guy is using the court system as a payday. He may have a case that wins, but doesn't make it right for him to do so. And honestly, as someone who does this for a living and spent a few minutes reading the newest case, the court system is stupid in believing him or even hearing his case. But then again, the courts have been known not to be very tech savvy.

He's a scam artist plain and simple and using the court system to further his scam and get paydays out of it.

And he wants to be our Senator. Nah.

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Abusing the court system

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So this guy just abuses the court system.

Over the Christmas holiday -- when I should have been on vacation -- I got stuck on jury duty for two weeks in a civil case that should have been settled, but where both parties were convinced that if they just were a big enough pain in the ass, they'd get a payoff. It was the biggest shit show imaginable, and both parties went away disappointed -- but without having learned enough to keep them from further litigation, I'm afraid. I really hate people like this.

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Inventing things other people already did

The first email was sent in 1971. By 1973, email was 75 percent of Arpanet traffic.

And then this jamoke "invented" email in 1978. Brilliant.

Does it make it easier to invent things that already exist?

I think I'll invent a sort of message board on the internet where news about Boston can be posted, with commentary by users.

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But you know who's a total phony?

The first email was sent in 1971. By 1973, email was 75 percent of Arpanet traffic.

And then this jamoke "invented" email in 1978. Brilliant.

Does it make it easier to invent things that already exist?

But you know who's a total phony?

Sen. Warren.

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Echomail Alums Speak up!

This sh*tbag can only have been emboldened in this due to the efforts of a similar paranoid bully who was just recently elected to the oval office

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Half these comments of grumpy

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Half these comments of grumpy Liberals contain swear words. You all amaze me with your classlessness

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So sorry to trigger you

We didn't know that the entire internet was supposed to be some giant fucking safe space for fragile pearl clutching morons.

Oops ... I did it again.

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"the tone and content of #MASen 2018"

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So let's get real about this.

In 2014 a fecal smear named Scott Lively ran for governor of Massachusetts. I won't be too surprised if none of you have heard of his campaign; you might have heard of his activities in Uganda and elsewhere, targeting LGBT people and encouraging decriminalization of homosexuality. During his gubernatorial campaign (such as it was), Lively actually got a seat at one of the debates. He's the sort of deeply delusional smug that it wouldn't be possible to actually laugh him off a stage, but suffice it to say that no one went away thinking, "Yeah, that guy Scott Lively, he's the one." He ran without the endorsement of any party, not even some made-up fly-by-night religious wackadoo party, and his political career ended without even a whimper. He's now off trying to keep his meal ticket valid by peddling religiously motivated hate -- always a solid sector, but not such a big seller in Massachusetts as elsewhere.

As sad and tattered and confused as the Massachusetts Republican Party is, there is exactly zero chance of them endorsing Captain Email. Fishy might make a few bucks coaching him on race-baiting, and I'm sure Scott Brown could give him some sartorial tips, but this one doesn't even have the legs to get to the starting line, much less have a measurable affect on "the tone and content" of the election.

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well lbb

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I know who Scott Lively is.. ugh. disgrace of a human being, and shameful to call himself a Christian. (and I think you mean 'criminalization' not 'decriminalization' )

And I agree. There's no way the GOP here in this state would support Shiva.. but then again, what other choices do they have. Schilling? Who supported Milo Yiannopoulos via a tweet he promptly deleted. (or something where he supported Milo and his opinions of pedophilia or something like that). Along with how he milked the Tax Payers of RI for .38 Studios.

Not sure who else would run as a GOP candidate...

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We know who won't run

Those Republicans with moderate views and working brains (yes, there are some). They won't run unless there is a snowball's chance in hell that they could win.

The present crop just validates what many of our finest r-trolls are constantly denying: Warren is a very strong candidate to retain her seat, and nobody gives two tubes of fecal matter for the fauxcahontas bullshit that got Scotty Barncoat laughed out of the state.

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I'm sure Scott Brown could

I'm sure Scott Brown could give him some sartorial tips

Maybe Sen. Barnjacket could help find him another state to live in.

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nah

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Scott Brown is being picked to be the ambassador to New Zealand...

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Misreported

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Ayyadurai's claim is not that he "he invented e-mail ". It's that he invented "EMAIL". As far as I can tell, he can claim credit for first coining the term EMAIL, and for developing the first electronic mail application that resembles a modern email client in the way it's organized (inbox, address book, etc). At the time, Unix Mail was still built like a geek tool. His mail client was built like an office tool.

The scope of Ayyadurai's contribution is certainly small, since his application never became famous, and Unix Mail was headed in that direction anyway.

He's basically making a claim like "First Post!" in an internet comment section. Sure, he's first, but it doesn't really matter.

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