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They could call it Amazon Downs
By adamg on Thu, 10/19/2017 - 9:47am
WBUR reports Mayor Walsh tomorrow will detail his proposal to love up Amazon, with four possible sites in mind, but, really, he wants the Bezosphere to set up shop at Suffolk Downs.
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Amazon deliveries by T?
Will this mean that all the all the seats will be taken up by boxes if Amazon moves to Boston?
If Amazon decides to deliver by T
expect them to be out of business in six months.
When the Blue Line breaks down, everything in East Boston breaks down. Silver Line service sucks.
Makes a ton of sense to me (the site, not the T stop name), but if and only if it is a mixed use site, not an office park. I'd want to see a street grid focused on bus and bike and carshare with great shade trees. I'd want to see mixed use -- with 1st floor retail, office space, and residential units of a variety of shapes and sizes. I'd like to see a public school and some real neighborhood amenities like parks and playgrounds and a branch library.
Think: the way seaport should have been built, but on a smaller scale.
Can we go all GE on them and promise to add more lanes to the tunnels and highway?
Extortion is never the answer
Regardless of how laudable your goals may be.
With the airport and Amazon over there, sea level rise will have to be something considered at great length long in advance of any issues by the city.
New Commuter Rail stop?
Adding a stop on the Rockport/Newburyport spur between Chelsea and Lynn right at the Withrop Ave/Revere Beach Pkwy intersection would put a station within a mile of Amazon.
Might that be a potential thing?
Hey while they build it
they can call it Suffolk CONSTRUCTION Downs
How will this impact Eastie ?
How will this impact Eastie ?
Since it is difficult already to purchase any type of Real Estate in Eastie plus I might add once Suffolk downs will be one humongous Amazon facility there will be absolutely no where to build any additional housing anywhere in Eastie , therefore making Eastie one of the most sought after and expensive neighborhoods in all of Boston.
Where will these Amazon employees reside, in Revere?? I don't think so...
Extend the Blue Line to Lynn
Extend the Blue Line to Lynn and commence large scale residential redevelopment of Revere & Chelsea.
Then there will be enough housing for all the new Amazonians.
A figure of 50,000 new jobs created (over two decades) has been bantered about in various articles. Are you sure that there will be enough housing, ultimately, for all those employees? 'Cause I'm not unless something changes.
The roads are clogged as it is during rush hour. Never mind the potential impacts on commuter rail and/or the T which are both on life support, more or less.
Also, the company wants some juicy tax breaks which I am not for. A company worth around 136 billion does not need tax breaks.
Never thought I'd see the day
that this was a true statement.
It only make sense. A lot of people are already pushing into Revere and Chelsea from Eastie, and they could always park at Wonderland if they wanted to take the T in. Lynn would be a viable option too.
Lynn is said to be submitting its own bid to Amazon.
Corporate Culture Change?
They'll never come out the way they went in!
Amazon will probably have
Amazon will probably have some type of passenger Boat service going from places like Salem to an East Boston dock or Boston via Chelsea creek where passengers can come off near the Chelsea street bridge and hop on to an Amazon shuttle bus.
Amazon will also have shuttle
Amazon will also have shuttle buses , they will buy up land along route 128 north and south also buy up land along 495 and create massive parking facilities for employees and have shuttle buses transporting passengers to and from Amazon.
And the folks that can afford to live there now
will not be able to.
One plus for this
The Blue Line is the savvy bettor's choice to go 2 days in a row without crapping out.
While we're at it
How about we change some more blue line stops:
Clever, same joke circulated in 2000 when they wanted to get sponsorship on to stops, eg
The Museum of Very Fine Arts (anyone remember that drink?)
Green Mountain Coffee Line
Blue Man Group Line
Big Red Line (the gum)
Minute Maid Orange Line
Tufts Medical (its funny because its true)
I still call the Tufts stop
I still call the Tufts stop "any medical center".
Wood Island gently weeps
Wood Island gently weeps
This proposal comes with the assurance of a Red-Blue lines connection, I am sure.
Not sold yet on this idea
Amazon is looking to be convinced that Boston is the place to be. I think there is a reasonable basis that American cities are being played by Amazon. They may already know where they want to be but are stirring up some competition to leverage the best possible deal for themselves by pitting one location against another.
Location decisions rarely work out for the host location. The promised jobs never quite materialize, the $ input by the host never translates into the windfall for them and the relationship eventually breaks down.
Putting those two issues aside for a moment - a 20 year deal based on Amazon's business projections - really? Who in Mass political leadership is questioning them? Does Walsh have the bandwidth to even know how to negotiate such a deal? Is Baker even going to be around to monitor Amazon's performance points of their part of the deal?
Look at what has been mismanaged in this state over the last 10 - 15 years. The Big Dig. Look at the paralysis over how to fix the T. Look the Olympic bid. Look at the duplicity and corruption (appearance anyway) around medical marijuana. Look at the the casino process. Look are all the patronage issues that have saturated state government.the list goes on and on.
Amazon could be a good deal - provided - that tough questions are answered before hand. I have seen nothing about the detail behind the so called 50k jobs - how can any company project with reasonable certainty their hiring rate 20years out?
Accepting their premise would seem to require us to accept the assumptions that there will not be a recession or two over the next 20 years. We have to belief that Amazon will never be the subject of anti-trust action. Jeff Bezos will remain head of Amazon indefinitely - what happens if not? Amazon remains leader of their business sector - any chance that some organization somewhere is/has been formed to go after them over time?
More importantly - is throwing all our eggs in one basket in the best interest for Boston over long run. Up to their putting out an RFP, was Boston's or Massachusetts growth strategy for the next 20 years based on the premise of "let's get one big company" to locate here? Are we better off getting a 100 to 150 small growing companies to locate here?
Betting on one company and using our finite economic resources to fix long standing infrastructure problems also seems to be terribly flawed logic. We ought to actually commit to fixing what is broke and operate well - companies will come based on the inherent benefits of living here - that's my opinion anyway.