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Police seek photos, videos related to crash that killed young boy in South Boston
By adamg on Thu, 07/26/2018 - 11:18am
Boston Police are seeking help from anybody who might have taken photos or videos in the moments before and after a crash at L and East 6th streets yesterday afternoon in which a van jumped the curb and hit two children in a stroller, killing one of them.
Images and video can be e-mailed to Sgt. Det. Thomas Barrett.
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No more fooling around. No more putting the needs of motorists over people living and walking on a street. Enough is enough. This is absolutely tragic and preventable.
- Speed humps
- Red light cameras
- Separated bike lanes
- Raised crosswalks
- Remove parking where necessary to create sight lines
- Whatever else is necessary
We know what works yet are not doing it. What more do we need to witness before we do something? This innocent child is dead for being on the SIDEWALK. This is a public health crisis as bad as the opioid epidemic yet our political leaders act like these are just unfortunate acts of god. I call BS on that and everyone else should too.
To add to that
Traffic cameras for speeding.
RIP Speed Cameras
Unfortunately NYC just killed off 140 speed cameras in school zones thanks to the state government way up in Albany killing any chance of re-upping the bill that caused their installation. The leader behind killing the speed cameras? A republican state senator who didn't like speed cameras because he kept being caught speeding by them.
"I'm a car guy"
Enough voting Bostonians want their cars, and they want to ignore traffic laws and commonsense responsible driving practices.
How do you solve that problem?
The most important thing is
The most important thing is to not be part of the problem. Walk. Bike. Take the T. If you insist on driving then follow the laws and put down your damn cellphone. A stop sign is not just a suggestion and your time is not more important than a pedestrians life.
Elect a mayor who isn't a "car guy" and a governor who know doesn't hate public transportation.
Document criminal drivers breaking laws so you can help in cases like this one. Photos and videos. Report drivers who park on sidewalks or crosswalks to 311. Call 911 if your neighborhood doesn't have traffic enforcement(I know firsthand that JP doesn't on the weekends). If you witness a serious crime, stay and talk to the police so you can be a witness. If you personally know someone who drives drunk, speeds excessively or texts while driving tell them to cut that shit out. Call the police on them if you must. Same for elderly drivers who do not belong behind the wheel.
Prove he hates public transpo
Hate being the key word
When was the last time he took the T without having it be a photo op?
If you live close to the T and work close to the T and NEVER EVER RIDE IT, you hate public transit enough to waste a lot of time and money.
Taking the T is the epitome of wasting time and money.
When you drive alone ...
Nobody ever throws you out for masturbating, amirite?
Vision Zero Boston Crash Map Stats
What You Can do link: http://www.visionzeroboston.org/getinvolved
Action Plan: http://www.visionzeroboston.org/actionplans
There's a Media Kit, too, Adam, if you're so inclined. Worryingly, the action plan only goes as late as 2016. Don't know if that's because of lack of website maintenance or Vision Zero problems.
Let's dedicate money toward
Let's dedicate money toward hiring cops that are soley dedicated to writing tickets to drivers for moving violations just like we have people dedicated to writing tickects for parking violations. Time to shift the focus to pedestrian safety.
Two pedestrians were hit and killed by a driver on Beacon St. in the Back Back years ago and NOTHING has been done to improve pedestrian safety there. The only thing that has changed is that a dedicated bike lane has been created thus moving parked cars further into the street so now pedestrians trying to cross the street have to fight with cars zipping through red lights with a diminished line of vision into oncoming traffic. We pedestrians can't see over cars when they're that far away from the sidewalk! Cars run red lights and stop signs and hit and kill people. Drivers still drag race down Beacon St. and all we pedestrians and residents hear about is more bike lanes! Bike lanes do not help pedestrians! I would much rather see cyclists take the full lane as the are lawfully allowed to do and drivers better just damn well get used to it, slow down and pay attention, and if you can't do that as a driver then stay the hell out of Boston!
I understand and share your
I understand and share your general frustration. But bike lanes do visually narrow the road and result in cars going more slowly. They are useful as traffic calming measures in addition to making cycling safer. The bike lanes are not your enemy - your enemy is the speeding cars and a city government not focused on safety first for people not in a car.
People trying to get to work are not “an enemy”
Most folks are just trying to get to work and home. I for one would be delighted to have a reliable public transport option to work, but I don’t. Trains don’t run the direction I need to go except an an hour before my kids needs to be Taken to school / daycare or an hour after work, and getting home is just as infrequent because I am traveling away from Boston.
I agree that people should not be speeding/ racing / reckless but don’t demonize everyone on cars. The focus should not just be getting people onto highways that are overused, but on making the t/ trains a realistic option for more people. Right now people are forced into cars when they can’t afford to live somewhere with solid public transport.
This crash is absolutely horrifying, and while there should be individual accountability for this, there also needs to be systematic accountability for why traffic is currently so awful that people are looking away from highways.
Hire more cops?
Like, for example, the two cops I saw on detail on Clarendon yesterday - fully uniformed, armed, etc. and totally engrossed with their iPhones while chaos as usual ensued around them?
How about just have construction companies provide their own detail workers and have the police actually do police work including writing tickets for moving violations instead? I've seen this practice work just fine in many other states.
I'm willing to bet that the money coming in from all the traffic violations alone would negate any money needed to getting this division up and running!
One the same page except the bike lanes
I'm sorry but drivers do not give a damn about us if we take the lane. Comm Ave. has lost many of the bike lanes during construction and we have to take the lane, motorists are not very accommodating.
Last night I was buzzed, honked at and had a bottle thrown at me for taking the lane. But I do share your concern about pedestrian sight lines when crossing travel lanes, there is a solution that works for all or our safety and involves attacking the real problem, motorists and car-centric infrastructure.
This is entirely correct. The only difference between a Boston impeded by car-gorged arteries and a Boston that is safe for people not in cars is that in the latter case fewer pedestrians and cyclists die.
Impede impede impede--speed bumps, bike lanes, all of that. Make it impossible for cars to go fast. All that happens now is cars act like pent up bulls stuck in gridlock most of the time, only to explode into a murderous full gallop at every opportunity. Stop the madness. Impede the progress of motor vehicles. All that I am calling for in effect, is a stop to motorist's ability to do Maximum Psychotic Burst Speed.
I don't care what bicyclists do as long as they stay off the sidewalks.
Sidewalks are for pedestrians.
Bike lanes are for bikes.
The rest of the road is for motor vehicles.
If cyclists and pedestrians want to venture onto the vehicle lanes when the traffic signals say "no", good luck to them but they're not allowed to complain if they get hit by a car.
Cyclists riding on the sidewalk are not allowed to complain when I push them off onto the road.
Motor vehicles are also prohibited from driving on the sidewalks.
I love watching Cambridge PD ticket cyclists for riding on the sidewalk. I think red light runners need to be stopped, too.
However, there is no law that requires bikers to ride in bike lanes. As you know, most streets don't have them. And many bike lanes that do exist make it impossible for cyclists to do normal things like make left turns (except in Somerville, which installed a lot of lime green "bike boxes" at major intersections).
This is not about bicyclists,
This is not about bicyclists, don't make it so. Also, brush up on the law as bikes are allowed on sidewalks. When you see a person biking on a sidewalk, it's usually because the road isn't safe enough.
Sidewalks aren't meant for bicyclists, either, however.
When bicyclists ride on sidewalks, rather than walking their bikes on them, they endanger walkers/pedestrians. Just because the road's not safe doesn't give cyclists the right to ride their bikes on the sidewalks and endanger pedestrians/walkers.
Bikes are guests
On sidewalks, bikes are guests. If I have to use a sidewalk, I travel at the pace of people who are walking on the sidewalk. An experienced cyclist can be stable enough to pull off low speed travel (and take up less room than if walking beside the bike).
I only rarely do this, however. Usually involves construction or an emergency vehicle that needs room.
Admit it, you're not shoving anyone off bikes that are riding on sidewalks. Its really funny that your response to people breaking the law is assaulting them and breaking the law yourself. But you won't so its really all talk.
Roads are not just for motor vehicles, cyclists are not restricted to bike lanes only. Vulnerable road users have the right of way, you don't get to just mow people down. You seem to have an issue with violent thoughts, it worries me that might be licensed to drive but then again like I said, I think you're just a keyboard warrior and won't actually do anything.
Something you might want to read
Because you seem to have missed something major in your driver education if you say this:
You are wrong wrong wrong.
Read this document here for more information on what the rules and laws actually are: https://www.mass.gov/doc/drivers-manual/download
Is there a good database that tracks these things? Like collisions and injuries before roadway changes at a particular location, and then after traffic calming modifications have been made? As someone who bikes and walks religiously and drives occasionally, I feel like biking has been made safer, walking has been made more complicated, and driving has become more dangerous. But that's just anecdotal and emotional. Are we quantifying all of this in any way that we can actually track the efficacy of the changes?
Providence put cameras up - easy first step
It was a massive success, nailed hundreds of speeders the first week. Pays for itself in a few months then it’s revenue. I’ve heard police don’t want to do this because insurance premiums get jacked up so fast for moving violations they don’t want to look like they’re hanging citizens out to dry for Liberty Mutual. But I could care less, I drive the speed limit in the city so I don’t kill anyone. Centre Street Roslindale/ West Roxbury from Weld to Holy Name is insane and I worry every day that awful accident is about to happen. People drive with “highway mindset” that when the car in front of you slows down just go around it. I’ve had people go around the car that stopped for me in the crosswalk and almost hit us. At the rotary you rarely don’t hear someone three cars back honking when someone lets pedestrians cross. There’s one officer who patrols traffic and does a great job but he can only be there so many hours in a week and stop one car at a time.
Find a way to make it legal in MA
And it will happen.
It isn't a simple as installation - major legal shifts must take place first.
and a bunch of morons will tell you that nobody drives anymore. 3500 cars go up L Street at rush hour every day. And no, bike lanes will do nothing.
There is almost ZERO traffic rule enforcement across the city of Boston (period). The only way to enforce laws is with consequences! No one wants a ticket, however, most ignore the traffic laws if no one is there to enforce them.
Something as simple as using a directional signal. ZERO enforcement, means nearly no one uses them. I am a lifelong Boston resident and I travel all over this country regularly. The threat of traffic law enforcement is non-existent in the city of Boston! Where other states patrol and enforce traffic laws (besides speeding and DUI).
The city needs to get back to basic traffic enforcement in order to help restore some sort of traffic order in this city.