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Charlestown space saver

Garry Waldeck spotted this space saver on Albion Place in Charlestown, notes:

But dude, you didn’t even clear the spot.

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I'd collect in the morning, I'd collect in the evening, all over the town
I'd collect lawn chairs, I'd collect ir'ning boards, I'd collect scap used for space savers all over this town.

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Or. We all just act like sensible citizens and respect the spaces people just dug out.

It's not rocket science.

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... is not something that most sensible citizens choose to respect.

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The city needs those people to take "ownership" and clear out the spot. If they do the bare minimum to just four wheel drive and get out of the spot, the city and everyone else who parks on the street is no better off. Huge piles will ice over and it's dead space in the streets.

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Just watched a person use pure engine power to pull a big Ford Explorer-type with 4WD out of a spot, stop in the middle of the street, open the back gate, reach in and toss a broken beach chair in the unshoveled spot and drive off. Isn't there a bit of sweat equity required before you get your 48 hour land grab?

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Who decides how much sweat equity is required, how is it measured, who enforces it, and what's the penalty?

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Maybe 311? They already make the call on how cleared sidewalks are. They remove the space saver and somehow acknowlege it was done by the city. Sign on the post, sticker on the moved space saver? The penalty is losing the spot.

People who feel entitled to a spot without clearing it defeats the purpose of space saving. Maybe this would make people think twice about doing it.

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Isn't there a bit of sweat equity required before you get your 48 hour land grab?

No sweat equity required. Only the implied threat of violent retaliation against anyone who parks in "your" space.

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they should be ashamed

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For condoning this nonsense in the first place.

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There are 48 on street parking spaces. 3/4 of them shoveled out their spots. The rest just pulled out without any cleaning. Do you know how many have space savers? All of them. Seems to work just fine. When you moved to Boston what do you think happens when it snows? Just like you who complain about airport noise in Boston, don't like it move back home with Mom.

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Roadman lives in Reading, which means he is complaining about a Boston practice yet has no skin in the game, like a lot of suburbanites.

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to realize that space saving is an utterly selfish practice. The fact that the elected leaders tacitly support this (the 48 hour "rule") makes it all the sillier.

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To actually be affected by it.

And in case you didn’t know, when you suburbanites decide what’s best for Boston, Bostonians unite in hating you. Concentrate on your own town.

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Space saving isn't limited to Boston. People have been (joking/not joking) taking pictures of illegal space savers in Medford and posting them on the Free Stuff list for some time, e.g. "Free chair in front of 75 Toadstool St.".

I doubt it is an issue in Reading, though.

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And the nurse who works night shift, whose car was in the hospital parking lot during the storm, and who now drives home to find every single space has either a car or a space saver in it? Where is that person supposed to park?

"Seems to work just fine" my ass.

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When I worked nights, ppl had left for work by the time I got home so spots were open. My neighbors are understanding and would shovel for me if need be. Then again, not all neighbors are neighborly.

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who don't shovel, that don't get it.

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If my car was parked on the street the night of the storm, I shovel.

I wouldn't even think of trying to claim a space for my exclusive use.

Why?

Because I understand the concept of a limited shared resource. My neighborhood has about 1100 on-street spaces and about 6000 valid resident parking permits. The only way the system even comes close to working is if someone else pulls into the space I vacated the minute I leave it.

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That doesn't make any sense. It's not an issue between 9am and 5pm. This isn't like saving a spot on Boylston street in Back Bay where people are coming in to shop all day long. It's about needing to get back into the space you shoveled out when everyone returns home from work at the end of the day.

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Where he lives, people routinely circle around the neighborhood for long periods looking for a space. Snagging a space in front of your house or apartment in of itself is like winning the lottery. Imagine being able to lay claim to that spot for 2 days or a week or whatever just because your car was in the right place at the "right" time.

In places like Dorchester, Roxbury, JP, East Boston, or even Roslindale, it makes a lot of sense to allow people to claim the spot they shoveled out (assuming there was enough snow to make it actual work.) For the neighborhoods closer to downtown, there is a definite argument against it.

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Adorable!

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It appears the City once again did a fabulous job removing the snow. They must've put to good use all that expensive snow melters and removal machinery they purchased a couple of years ago, which I may add I have personally never seen.

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Boston has 802 miles of roadways, per the Public Works Dept's website.

From watching them work (efficiently, too; I'm generally impressed) I'm guessing wildly that a crew (one plow + operator, one scoop loader + operator, two tractor trailers to haul snow + operators) can clear maybe 2 miles of heavily snowed road in an 8-hour shift.

So divide 802 by 2 by the number of crews and pieces of equipment you're willing to pay for, and that'll tell you how many days it'll take the city to actually remove the snow (as opposed to plowing and salting)

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...thank you, I'll see myself out.

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Someone breaks there back shoveling for four hours, then some lazy yuppie who's been drinking all nite in town wakes up at two, works from home moves there car into spot is un American. But that's the Charlestown of today..Sad

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