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When it rains, it pours - inside at least one Orange Line car

Wet seats on the Orange Line car

Those new Orange Line cars can't get here soon enough: Amy Bucher reports some seats in car 01311 had enough water in them from ceiling leaks they should have had signs warning parents to keep toddlers away so they don't drown. The ads on the wall were all wrinkly from water draining down across them. And, she added shortly after 10 a.m., on the train between Community College and North Station:

In fact there's water dripping on me as I type this!

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I have had that happen in the past, at least once, sitting there happily reading a book and the train lurches and the water comes down, through the roof. Into each life some rain must fall.

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by puddles on T seats when it's *not* raining out.

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New cars in 2027 will fix this.

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Does anybody know when these cars are actually coming into service? The T says “late 2018” but... with two months left in the year, “late” seems to be up for interpretation.

They said they began training operators on the OL in August. Barely a word about new Green Line trains beyond referencing one tweet a few months ago. God help us when it snows again.

I wish the T would clean up a LOT of things, and holding itself accountable to dates and times not least of all...

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The T says “late 2018”

Please insert "r than" in the appropriate place.

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If those go online on the 31st of December, the T and CRRC will have made that goal.

The deeper question is when will the last of these trains be retired. Of course, I'll settle for the expected time when more than half of the fleet is from the 21st century.

I am glad that we are not hearing about labor discord in Springfield akin to what Rotem brought upon themselves in Philly. Let's hope for some high quality vehicles delivered as soon as reasonable.

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For those who may not have read about the Philly story.... It seems Rotem (Hyundai) brought in various managers and executives from So. Korea and they were treated like gold. They also attempted to impose their treatment of workers, much like a caste system, like they do in that nation.

The special staff got to eat lunch in an air conditioned enclosure while the workers had box lunches in a hot and non-air conditioned plant.

When one of the SK supervisors slapped a worker across the face for talking back to him, the union workers walked out. To the credit of the union guy who was slapped, he didn't try to break his boss in two. That walk out over worker treatment and other related issues went on for some time and even caused local government to get involved to see just what labor laws were being broken when the SK way of running a business was supplanted.

The incident caused a slide in the delivery of coaches for the SEPTA transit system there which was already being plagued by delays in getting raw materials. Because of this the SEPTA order slid several months. Since Rotem was also building the coaches for the MBTA to be started after the SEPTA contract was completed, the MBTA order also slipped.

You may remember the MBTA sent financial officer Davis down there to complain but the fact was that the order slipped because of Rotem's screw-up and failing to understand the US labor force, their expectations of fair treatment, and federal and state labor laws and practices.

With the SEPTA and MBTA order completed, Rotem closed its Philly plant in August. CRRC under bid them in upcoming orders for other transit systems.

Citation: https://www.railwayage.com/passenger/hyundai-rotem-closing-philadelphia-plant/

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Due to unforeseen circumstances, all references to the MBTA have been cut from Gov. Chaahlie's campaign ads. No new trains will he approaching or arriving this winter.

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A few years ago I was riding a Green Line train–probably the B Line–and I almost sat in seat that was filled to the rim with a white milky liquid. Fortunately, I noticed in time and sat in a seat facing the soiled one. A lady was about to sit down and I alerted her to the mystery milk, she thanked me and we exchanged glances of "how disgusting." Along came a young man possibly with headphones who failed to hear–or heed–our warnings and sat in the seat and stayed there. The lady and I once again shared another meaningful glance. We were both shocked that he didn't jump out of the seat once the loose lactose had been absorbed through his clothing. True story.

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at the end of the center Red Line platform at Park this morning too. Literally raining about as hard as it was outside, but two levels underground. Alas I am not skilled enough to post my video, so you'll have to take my word for it.

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Not kidding. I saw a train of about 3-4 cars testing around Wellington yesterday. The floor of every car was filled with trash bags that looked like sand bags. At the time, I was guessing that it was probably to simulate the weight of a car full of passengers. But . . maybe it was new interior flood mitigation!

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How did you see the floor of the inside of the train?

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If they are moving slowly enough you can see inside them from the platform.

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Sometimes I’m jealous of the north of Boston Orange Line riders. Then I see how crowded the trains are up north.

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The sidewalk is a viewing platform down onto the trains. (PS: The tops of the new cars have sheet metal ridges with strange looking divots in them that make it look kinda like they've been in a hail storm.)

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This southsider is jealous of the northsiders.

Thanks for the clarification.

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