Developer proposes large office center, stores, restaurants in marine industrial park
Millennium Partners told the BPDA this week it hopes to build a 900,000 office building with shops and restaurants on two parcels it now leases off Northern Avenue in the Raymond Flynn Marine Industrial Park in South Boston.
In a letter of intent, the developer - better known for its downtown towers, including Millennium Place - says it will soon file more detailed plans for its "South Boston Innovation Campus," which would replace "a vacant deteriorated warehouse building and truck parking." It wrote that the basics of the project will include "general office, research, parking and related retail, restaurant and other uses."
The proposed campus is large enough that the company will file a proposed "planned development area," under which it and the BPDA can toss the site's current zoning and come up with a master plan better suited for the proposal.
Although state law requires that most of the jobs in the 191-acre industrial park - formerly an Army and Navy base - be related somehow to the sea - and a 2017 master plan for the park called for improvements to make it even more sea-worthy - in recent years the BPDA has allowed non-marine uses on the land not directly on the water. The proposed Millennium Partners campus, for example, would be kitty corner from Harpoon Brewery - but also right next to a Stavis Seafood facility.
South Boston Innovation Campus letter of intent (366k PDF).
2017 master plan (19M PDF).
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When is the Brain Trust going
When is the Brain Trust going to come up with plans to ease motor vehicle traffic congestion and completely overturn the MBTA before they stop any more development?
Awesome! More development that is nearly impossible to reach in the seaport! Are they planning a levitation device to move people in and out?
Do you live or work there?
Do you live or work there? Why do you even care???!
I work on Dry Dock Ave. and can tell you that it sucks getting down here at times, with the constant construction. Add the tourists from the cruise ships and the unreliability of the MBTA and you have a pain of a commute.
Drydocks a nightmare!!!
Can it, John
Old people wandering to boats and saying goodbye, backed up buses, zero parking, i could go on...
There are studios (or were) that moved simply due to the lack of anything down there.
And god forbid an emergency vehicle needs to get through.
Dont chastise those of us that have/had to deal with the complete disaster at that end of Mahtys Seaport.
Just keep quiet, dear.
I work down there, and the transportation sucks - the roads are way too wide and cars drive way too fast so it's not comfortable to walk or bike, and the cars drive way too fast until they get to the huge (and unavoidable) congestion at every bridge. Meanwhile the Silver Line is over capacity and has to deal with traffic and streetlights. What we need to start doing is requiring these developers to pay directly into projects that will improve transportation and people movement, and more substantial improvements than just adding a couple token bike racks and calling it a day.
The Silver Line is woefully overcrowded at commute times
But those parcels are literally across the street from Silver Line Way.
Maybe they'll actually build a sidewalk on that side of the Haul road with a crosswalk. Right now with construction at Parcel K everyone just walks in the middle of the road because there's no way to get to that area without spending 10 min walking the opposite way around the construction.
It's really one of the least pedestrian friendly areas of the city, and I'm surprised they were allowed to just shut down those sidewalks for years without any mitigation.
Free the Ramp!
Talk about some low-hanging fruit...
Free the Ramp at all times -- not just weekday afternoon rush hour.
Turn the Silver route into a Green Line route
The South Boston Transitway tunnel was built for Green Line trains, not buses. Have the tracks run right down Northern Avenue to the I&D building. The MBTA will have a pile of new Green Line cars once the now $3 billion GLX is cancelled by the feds. Boston needs to plan ahead. Get ready
While I agree with the Transitway being converted
to light rail, the GLX is not going anywhere, and is another much-needed project.
If I recall correctly, the T has only ordered around two dozen of the Type 9 cars to cover the additional needs of the GLX until the Type 10 order, which will replace most of the current fleet.
DIRECT Path between SL-WAY and NORTHERN. Station at the Campus
The developers could create a direct busway corridor between Silver Line Way and Northern Ave through their campus. Right now Silver Line buses have to make that awkward SLW, Massport Haul Road, Northern Ave jog. The direct path would have a new sheltered busway station that serves the complex and replaces SLW. Remember. This project originally had a gondola connection. An on-site sheltered busway station that turns into a future Green Line station is a better solution for the entire inno campus
NIMBYs of the future!
Can't wait for the far-off day when the users of this future development bemoan the reactivated railroad tracks that run right through it.
calling all developers
Until developers demand action from the politicians they contribute their funds to the MBTA will continue to collapse and their workers will cost them bundles in lost time.
If you’ve ever been at Harpoon when the doors opened
On the massive fish warehouse next door, you know what a genius idea this is. Only a matter of time before maritime uses are deemed bad for business and relocated.
There's not much of the fishing industry down there left. At the rate things are going the owners of these plants will just cash out and the facilities will be demolished to build another skyscraper.
Starvis still has a large plant there. I interviewed for a job there, I was told NOT to wear a suit.
I threw the clothes out after the interview they stunk so much.
I'm pretty sure Stavis and the Boston Seafood Center are actually expanding.
Tell that to the Fish Pier.
What does this development
have yo do with Maritime use?
Empty warehouse -- Not exactly productive
What does Google have to do with Woven Rubber Hose
What does biotech have to do with wires?
What does Partners have to do with Cars
All of the above are adaptive reuse of abandoned areas in Cambridge and Sommerville:
American Biltrite Rubber Co, Kendall Boiler and Tank, Simplex Wire & Cable, Ford Motor Company and of course Boston Woven Rubber Hose*1
Things change -- if you don't adapt to the tide -- you become King Canut or Detroit
Boston Woven Hose and Rubber Company circa 1960
Boston Woven Hose and Rubber
Boston Woven Hose and Rubber Company , wow that is a blast from the past, knew people that worked there.
demand $$ and land set-asides
demand $$ and land set-asides for transit improvements! stop blanket approving massive development in an area where transit has reached capacity and car traffic was a bad idea from day 1!! replace the SL with real trolleys and create ACTUAL transit!!!!
Real Trolleys vs Dig under D
The Silver Line can be real transit if its primary route is isolated from the surface traffic
There is not much of a difference between rubber tires on a Silver Line bus and steel tires on a Green Line Trolley
The one big difference between Silver Line in South Boston Seaport and a real transit line is the fact that all of the the Silver Line Service from South Station to and through South Boston Seaport surfaces and crosses D Street en route to Silver Line Way
This was the result of Mega-Stupid-lack of Coordination between elements of the Mass Dept. of Transportation -- specifically the T and Massport with the Turnpike thrown in for good measure.
However it is not too late to fix this problem -- very valuable land is about to be developed behind the relatively new [but now already old] John Hancock [aka Manulife] building located at D and Silver Line Way
Here's the solution in steps:
There was a proposal to increase transportation options ...
IF WE HAD SUPPORTED THE GONDOLA WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS PROBLEM.
Seems like a silly place to start
Why would we pay for an overly expensive system with a low capacity designed primarily for tourists when there are a lot bigger gains to be captured by investing in the existing Silver Line infrastructure and improving walkability/bikeability? Let's start with that, then once we think we've actually pushed those to their limits we can start talking about pie (literally) in the sky ideas.
I'm a victim of Poe's Law, I guess
But given the dude's other "I'm going to assume you don't live or work there and so shouldn't care" comment though, I don't feel too bad for assuming he also thought a gondola was a good idea.
Also this was too perfect
A 900,000 office building