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Bloody night in Boston

Live Boston rounds up all the shootings and stabbings Friday night and Saturday morning - and the person hit by a Fairmount Line train at Newmarket Square.

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This wasn’t even all of it. Things are getting very scary out there. Every single night now, the shotspotter system seems to be working overtime.

If the Michelle Wu’s of the world want to defund us, fine so be it, but the more pressing issue is for them to at least acknowledge the violence that is suffocating these neighborhoods. And the media silence is deafening to me.

- a Boston Cop

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respectfully, this site *is* part of the boston media, and it links to a roundup by another site. as a boston cop, i'm sure you're aware of the large number of organizations church-based and otherwise devoted to curbing inner city violence. the idea that people turn a blind eye to the violence rings hollow.

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i'm sure you're aware of the large number of organizations church-based and otherwise devoted to curbing inner city violence.

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the rise in violence is pretty uniform nationwide and is probably an unintended consequence linked to the pandemic / lockdown orders

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Michelle Wu. I follow her posts very regularly and all she is talking about is defunding. Absolutely zero posts about the staggering rise in violence or solutions to it.

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Adam and Live Boston. No other media outlets.

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i googled the phrase uptick in boston violence

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Overnight at least 7 people were shot and another 4 people stabbed in one of the most violent and busy nights of the summer. Throughout the day and into tonight we will be providing further updates, information and images to these incidents in full dedicated posts. As of this morning this is the summary that we have been able to track. This information is tentative at this time pending official confirmation, some of these incidents we were able to witness while others are reports from both radio communications and other information sources. Again none of these have been officially confirmed at this time.

⁃Approximately 18:40 hours a man was shot in the chest on Toledo Terrace in Dorchester

⁃Approximately 19:20 hours at least four people were stabbed in the area of Roberts Field near Codman Square in Dorchester as well as reports of shots fired in the area

⁃Approximately 19:45 hours two people shot on Dunbar Ave in Dorchester

⁃Approximately 20:50 hours reports of shots fired in the area of Heath Street and Columbus Ave (Bromley Heath Projects), Roxbury

⁃Approximately 20:50 hours a person was found shot on Pierpont Road near the Baseball Fields in Franklin Park

⁃Approximately 21:07 hours B-2 units report hearing shots fired in the area of Seaver Street and Humboldt ave in Roxbury

–Approximately 21:35 hours a person possibly shot on Walnut Ave

⁃Approximately 21:50 hours a person was struck by MBTA Commuter Rail at Newmarket Station

⁃Approximately 22:20 hours a person was shot on Spencer Street in Dorchester

⁃Approximately 22:30 hours a person was shot on Livingstone Street in Mattapan

⁃Approximately 00:00 hours a person was shot multiple times on Greenfield Road in Mattapan

⁃Approximately 01:00 hours multiple 911 calls for shots fired in the area of Bennington Street in East Boston

⁃Approximately 01:28 hours shots fired with injuries on Harold Street in Roxbury

⁃Approximately 01:57 hours person found shot in car on Dudley Street

⁃Approximately 03:20 hours firearm arrest Washington Street in Dorchester

If we missed anything we apologize and encourage anyone to reach out or comment with a tip or addition!

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I see violence like this covered in the local sections of most major media outlets within a few days of it happening (here's NBC Boston's story for example). What more would you have them do? Dedicate hours of breathless coverage to an problem that defies easy solutions? Get all the people in the suburbs, who aren't impacted by the spike in violent crime, all riled up so they can demand their version of "law and order" be imposed on communities they don't live in?

I'm honestly asking. Saying media silence is "deafening" implies you feel there's an obvious alternative to the existing coverage; what is it? It's difficult for me to see the connection between Boston's gun violence and the media. Everybody in town knows it's happening, and most are aware that it's also happening in pretty much all substantial cities across the country (Omaha, Phoenix, San Antonio, to name some in red states). Most people think it's related to coronavirus disruptions.

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Defund means acknowledging these problems first and foremost, and focusing on stopping this violence before it starts, not waiting to just react afterwards.

It also means not doing THE EXACT SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN and expecting a different result.

And yeah...it might mean a non-top brass officer won't make over 200k anymore.

We can have a discussion about defunding police but you would have to know (or stop pretending to not know) what it means.

- a Boston resident

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weather reports on WBZ.

Similar to Republicans that put political power over country progressives like Wu don't care what happens in the streets because they put political power over public safety. Rather than solutions you get and will get more whataboutism. Choosing to point a firearm at someone and pull there trigger is not excusable. Violent crime is not excusable. Progressives should be held accountable for their whataboutism excuses. How are you going to stop violence without policing? The all police are bad card will wear thin as the bodies of victims pile up.

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Every murder should be taken seriously and the situation in Boston is unacceptable and cannot be brushed away. However, it's only a large increase compared to last year. Overall, the current numbers are normal. Now, that is a problem on it's own, but it's a different problem. With or without support for police from politicians, the murder rate in Boston has been too high.

I don't think that getting rid of police is a reasonable solution, but neither do most politicians, including Michelle Wu. The phrase "defund the police" is stupid, but many of the politicians that are using that (as previously stated, stupid phrase) are advocating that more funds be spend on services that help keep people away from violence to begin with.

There's a lot of evidence that people don't turn to violence when they have other options. Personally, I think we definitely need police, but I would prefer more money spent building communities where people can grow up knowing they have a chance to be successful rather than just catching and punishing those who choose to take success with violence. You can't do that without police, but the police can't do it on their own.

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can you at least give an example?

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When confronted with violent crime and murder, the reflective response is to cite systemic racism as the reason one chooses to aim a gun, shoot and murder a fellow citizen. When Walsh presented his last budget, Wu made a speech and demanded that police financial resources be shifted to social programs. When the speech was over she voted yes and cited collective bargaining agreements, that she had voted to fund previously, as her rational for voting for the budget. Political courage or political theater?

Does policing need reform? Yes. Is there systemic racism? Yes. This country elected an unabashed racist in Donald Trump. Policing is ugly because violence is ugly. Feel good social programs feel good. They don't prevent violence. Education, opportunity and jobs change society. The city of Boston has been failing in those areas forever.

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Feel good social programs feel good. They don't prevent violence. Education, opportunity and jobs change society.

not sure how these are mutually exclusive

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There isn't a social ill that cannot be confronted by education with expectations and stable employment. Like police officers, teachers are not social workers. There is an over emphasis on what is wrong with society instead of focusing on potential and setting expectations that Boston students can meet just as well as Parker from Dover. Given a change in that dynamic, you will see a change in outcome that makes the need for feel good go away.

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Yikes. Might be easier just to list the people who didn’t get shot.

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Has anybody noticed a pattern of lawlessness out there? Everyone talks about how bad the 70s and 80s were violence and crimewise. Why has it suddenly returned to that after quite a few years of things being somewhat better?

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1. Coronavirus and its economic and social impacts are responsible. Every big city in the country is experiencing a spike of violent crime, regardless of local political preferences, police funding levels, or economic conditions prior to the pandemic. Property crime is down in Boston (and all other American cities) compared to last year as well, for the same reasons

2. This is not even close to how violent the city was in the 70s and 80s. There were 152 murders in Boston in 1990, with a population of 574,000 (26.4 murders/100k). We're on pace for 66 in 2020, with a population of at least 695,000 (9.5 murders/100k)

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Or do you think it started getting worse a couple years back?

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Need to get the drug trafficking in check first. That's the root.

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