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For three nights in a row now, pedestrians hit by drivers at Mass and Cass

Live Boston reports a pedestrian was hit by a car at the intersection of Massachusetts Avenue and Melnea Cass Boulevard early this morning, in roughly the same sport where another pedestrian was hit, allegedly by a Dorchester man who was charged with OUI, not far from the spot on the Mass. Ave. Connector where a third person was struck by a car two nights earlier, allegedly driven by a drunk woman from South Boston.

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but but but cyclists are the worst!!1! i saw one barely come to a complete stop at a intersection last month! us drivers pay taxes so big deal if we hit pedestrians. commie cyclists are the real enemy

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Scary misdesigned roads and drunk or aggressive drivers are a problem for pedestrians, cyclists, and law-abiding drivers alike.

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Give it one.

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This intersection is a menace to all, motorists included. Too many trucks, too many travel lanes. No protection for pedestrians, cyclists or the poor unfortunates who live there and are periodically chased away like pigeons by police.
If ever a spot needed traffic calming, it’s here.

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For panhandlers who literally stand in the traffic lanes?

The intersection itself wasn't the problem in any of the three incidents reported -- people were allegedly driving drunk in all three cases.

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Excessive speed + unsafe street designs + substance abuse by both drivers and pedestrians = what could go wrong?

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People weren't killed because of bad road design, they were killed because it's way too easy for dangerous drivers to get on the road while inebriated! And also it's probably the victims faults for having to be outdoors in a world with drunk drivers in it!

Really, when you think about it, there's exactly nothing we could have possibly done to prevent any of this, so let's just move along comforted with the thought that it at least it didn't happen to anyone we feel like we need to care about.

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If those panhandlers weren't standing in the street, it would be much harder for the drunk drivers to hit them!

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We could start jailing drunk drivers.

And taking away their licenses.

And jailing them when that wasn't enough to keep them off the road.

Bad drivers kill people. Let the low level drug guys go ... make room for the automurders.

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So the intersection is a menace. Just what in this report prompts a sarcastic screed about bicycles, a strawman-fighting rant against an argument no one is likely to make (and hasn't)? The axe-grinding is tiresome.

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Shameless one.

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The comment below this is literally using this as an excuse to complain about how difficult it is for drivers to get through this intersection, so frankly, I don't think this is much of a strawman, sadly.

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Kinopio is the only one even mentioning bicycles in this thread. (Except for me talking about his comment.) Still, he thinks it's important to rail against imaginary criticisms of bicyclist behavior. If there were any such criticisms in the thread, I could understand his anger. There aren't, and I don't.

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People find a tenuous link to their agenda and go from there. Kino decides it's time to bring one thing up, and others bring other things. I will say that the point about people standing in traffic could at least be slightly linked, except that all three crashes involved drunk drivers.

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In the city of Boston, there is more than one traffic safety issue and more than one solution.

Mass and Cass is the perfect storm. There are too many traffic lanes competing with lots of pedestrians. And many of the pedestrians are drugged up and just walk out into traffic when they want to, dodging traffic and daring motorists to stop. Then there are the ones who post themselves in the middle of traffic asking for money. And if the drivers in these accidents were drunk as has been reported, we have drunk drivers vs drugged pedestrians. More police presence, 24/7 would be welcome, for traffic control and for pedestrian control. A redesign of the intersection with more protection for pedestrians is also in order.

In other news, those that drive bicycles are in fact a significant problem. The vast majority of bicycle drivers (at least in Dorchester and South Boston, where I see them every day), ignore the rules of the road, ignore stop signs, and ignore their own safety. This morning on Savin Hill Ave I shared the road with a man on a bicycle, with no helmet, coffee in his right hand, steering with his left hand. He was weaving because he did not have full control of his vehicle. At the intersection of Dot Ave, he wobbled around in circles waiting for traffic to clear, and finally blew through the red light. We all see this kind of stuff every day.

Let's not fool ourselves. There are really bad and irresponsible drivers, and they control large heavy machines that can easily cause death. But there are also bad and irresponsible pedestrians and bicycle drivers that are responsible for problems too.

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This area is horrible for drivers. I just drove mass ave and melena (5am)and everyday without fail homeless junkies are stepping in the road, running across the street, boxing in the cross walk. Its unreal

They need to ban methadone and narcan tbh that area is not going to change

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It isn't a raceway. See all the cross walks? 20mph, tops.

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I mean, it's hard enough to keep the car between the lines when you're loaded, you want me to also be on the lookout for pedestrians in a busy city intersection? Nah, easier to just say it's their fault when they get hit by someone who shouldn't be behind the wheel.

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Ban methadone...so that it's even harder to get off of opiods?

Ban narcan...so that more people die from opiod overdoses?

So, you want opiod addicts to stay hooked and die from it...because it's tough to drive through two blocks where you are already fully aware that you need to be vigilant because of a high level of distracted pedestrians?

Sure...and let's just ban overpriced sunglasses and patio tapas because it's too hard for you to drive down Newbury safely as well. That area's never gonna change either.

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I have plenty of complaints about the way the city handles Mass+Cass, but pedestrians "stepping in the road, running across the street, boxing in the cross walk" also describes every game day around Kenmore or North Station, lunchtime around South Station, and basically every day in numerous other spots around the city. Should we ban sports fans and office workers, too, in our increasingly-absurd quest to avoid acknowledging that cars don't belong in some parts of the city in anything close to their current concentration?

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"lifetime driving ban" vs "they were asking for it" discuss

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We are driving through a containment zone. It’s as if they’re setting up the desperate as pins at a bowling alley.

For those who have no other option and have come here for treatment, we are killing them in the cruelest of ways; through indifference.

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