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If you can't remember to take your pressure cookers with you, you might want to stay out of the Boston area

Pressure cookers in police custody

We're still very touchy about unattended pressure cookers, for obvious reasons. So if you were shopping at or near the Medford Whole Foods today and suddenly realized, "oh, damn!" you left your pressure cookers on the pavement as you loaded groceries into your car, Medford Police would like to have a chat with you. Julia reports police taped off the parking lot after the discovery of two pressure cookers in bags just sitting there, menacingly. They were empty, she reports.

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Understandable, they're still touchy about Japanese aircraft flying over Pearl Harbor.

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Appears you have been taking them by the fistful.

An ounce of caution is worth a pound of cure.

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I don't know of too many people around anymore who were there that day 80 years ago. On the other hand, I recall exactly where I was standing when two bombs were detonated on the sidewalk a few blocks away in 2013.

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I have friends that live near there. They were giving the play by play on FB.

There used to be a charity box over there. The working "theory" from the hive mind is that maybe someone got an instapot for the holidays, wanted to donate the pressure cookers, and ended up just dumping them when they found the box was no longer there.

Also possible that they were taking them somewhere to cook with them, set them aside to load the groceries, then drove off.

It is a pretty chill story compared to what happened in the Fells this weekend.

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If it's not on UHub, it didn't happen.

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The Globe has coverage including an interview with the assailant's father. The accused was known to have severe mental health complications. He was apprehended quickly.

What indirect responsibility for the rape can be attributed to the state and the person's family is up for debate.

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I have depression and anxiety, can I go beat someone with a pipe and then insist I'm not responsible?

After all, I have Mental Illness. Not my fault. It's my mother's fault. It's my shrink's fault. CVS fills my prescriptions, it's the company's fault.

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You sound smart.

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Maybe I'm just sick of lawyers.

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tired of the "mental illness" excuse

I just read the article and I didn't see anyone saying anything that one could plausibly construe as making excuses for the criminal behavior.

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I guess I was responding to BostonDog without realizing it.

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tired of the "mental illness" excuse

Sounds like you need to learn the difference between "cause", "reason" and "excuse".

As someone with depression and anxiety, shouldn't you understand that it benefits everyone if people with mental illness get assistance in managing their condition?

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And can't always get it. That was not my point AT ALL.

I remember when Reagan yanked the help away, and I got off at Park Street and it was suddenly teeming with people who were seriously in need.

The Q Shaman guy that helped wreck the Capitol? Mental illness. The pilot that crashed an entire plane full of people into the sea? Mental illness.

These days it just seems to be the "go to" excuse. For everything.

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Wow - you somehow forget what the Great and General Court did?

Reagan yanked federal support - your own legislators with D next to their name are the ones who fucked things up in Massachusetts much more recently. Maybe ask what happened to that "network of community-based resources" that were supposed to replace institutions?????

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Yes, I did forget. I'm not exactly batting a thousand today, apparently.

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yes people need help
And can't always get it. That was not my point AT ALL.

I'm not going to belabor MY point, which had nothing to do with whether people can or can't get help. It concerned the difference between causes and excuses. A cause is something that gives rise to an action; an excuse absolves someone of blame. There's a big difference between understanding mental illness as a cause, and accepting it as an excuse.

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He is 28 years old.

Family are not in charge of adults unless they specifically have a guardianship or other legal agreement that makes them responsible.

To their own peril many family members try to keep mentally ill adult relatives under control, despite having zero training, no financial resources or tools to do so. This should not - and is not - something that is required or that they are responsible for doing.

The system is broken and far too reliant on the good graces of non-professionals with limited options and resources. Don't make that bullshit worse by demanding legal liability for not doing a job that isn't their job in the first place!

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His father was partially blaming the state according to the Globe article.

I haven't read enough to know if the state failed to do something they should have done. Irrespective, yes, it was this man who is responsible. He need to be placed in a prison or held in a mental health facility for a long, long time.

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As for the state being responsible? READ THIS NOW

Criminializing severe mental illness has never worked. Neither has dumping the mentally ill on their families.

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