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Lynn restaurant that requires proof of vaccination has had enough of your Covid BS

Rachel Miller, who owns Nightshade Noodle Bar in Lynn, has been requiring would-be diners to show proof of vaccination. She reports she's been getting blowback, at least online, and tells the losers they can just stop now because she's not changing her mind:

I am not here to engage with all your backwoods perspectives bringing up hepatitis and your “lawyer” and the Holocaust and whatever other bullshit you think you came up with to intimidate me. People like you are a huge part of the reason restaurants can’t find staff right now. Nobody wants to deal with you. Nobody wants to feel threatened, by attitude or lack of vaccine, at their job. We are all doing our best and don’t deserve to feel unsafe or uncomfortable at work. The policy is not JUST ABOUT YOU or JUST ME. This is about RESPECT, FOR EVERYONE, AND PUBLIC HEALTH.

I’m so tired of this conversation. My house, my private business to do with what I think is right, my rules. End of story.

Still, she continues:

[A]ll of you broken records from hell repeating each other over and over with your selfish views on masks and vaccines are the reason why we are still in this shit show. Do you think after getting annihilated and surviving all that restaurants have been through for 17 months of the shut down, that we want to welcome YOU, who helped to keep our faces in the mud, into the dining room to breathe on us and each other and flex your “freedom”? Give me a break. Freedom comes with responsibility. We too, have “freedom” then and if you can only process thoughts based on that one big word- understand that we are free to serve whoever we want to, not serve anyone we don’t want to and for the most part do whatever the hell we want within legal reason and SO WE HAVE A VACCINATION POLICY. You don’t like it? You’re free to walk your ass the other way.

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Finally; the voice of reason

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I might visit this place now! Vaccines rule.

And the piece of mind of knowing I won’t be around anti-vaxx/mask psychos will make my meal all that more delicious!

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Love it! But even more important, "freedom comes with responsibility". Why don't people get that? It's so simple. Your personal freedom ends where mine begins.

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Good for her.

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Good on her for telling it like it is, speaking her mind, and telling the assholes who insist on flaunting the rules where the hell to get off! The scofflaws need that!

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… a living wage, she’ll be my hero.

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Check out her previous Facebook posts. She does. :)

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is really, really good. I'm also in favor of these requirements.

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a baker refusing to make a cake for an LGBTQ+ wedding, a good chunk of the people clowns giving her a hard time would be the first ones defending her 'right to run her private business as she pleases.'

I've never been here, but I'll now gladly go enjoy some noodles and support the hell out of this business.

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I'm totally on her side of this argument. But I'm a bit put off by all her anger. I hope this doesn't extend to how customers following the rules are treated in general.

Plenty of businesses with mask and vaccination requirements are polite but firm, and it accomplishes the same thing. Maybe it even accomplishes more, by convincing a few people on the fence that getting vaccinated is a good idea, instead of just hardening their hostility on the other side of the issue.

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Totally makes sense, but as she put in her original posts, this was more a response to the undue harassment that is currently being lobbied at establishments that have a policy such as hers.

The second it's public on Facebook, these businesses get inundated with fake reviews and harassment from people who usually have never been customers, if they even live near the restaurant.

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We've had months of data of people not having serious ill effects from the vaccine and it's FDA approved - why do we constantly need to accommodate the people on the fence? Fuck em, they are provably stupid people harming all of us by not getting the shots.

There is no practical difference between someone who 'just isn't sure' and the MAGA lunatics but we're all being asked to consider the feelings of the former like they're small children having a bad day.

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I'm totally on her side of this argument. But I'm a bit put off by all her anger. I hope this doesn't extend to how customers following the rules are treated in general.

Your reaction was to tone police? To make the stale old "tut tut you're just alienating people" bullshit argument that, gosh, if you were just NICER you'd persuade people who have been stubbornly stupid in the face of gods know how much niceness, kindness, accommodation, scientific and medical expertise?

And then to make a totally unwarranted leap to conjecture that her anger might at some point be directed at people who are not doing the thing she's angry about?

Guess she's just an emotional, out of control, angry woman then.

My god, listen to yourself.

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Acting Mayor of Boston Kim Janey isn't welcome there. Wouldn't want to have to show her freedom papers or birth certificate and all.

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...the actual are you even talking about?

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he's referring to our acting mayor inexplicably spouting a bunch of right-wing talking points.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/acting-boston-mayor-compares-covid-...

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You people either have very short of selective memories.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/acting-boston-mayor-compares-covid-...

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You people either have very short of selective memories.

"either" is logically followed by an "or", son, and don't you "you people" me. Answer the question or don't, but don't blow your snot on me.

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and compared them to slave papers or something. However, she later said she regretted that statement, and it's not actually clear whether she was opposed to *personally* being required to show vaccination proof (which is different than requiring it of the public at large.)

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if you engage with her points as a nuanced conversation rather than as a right/wrong binary, what she said actually made sense. remember that covid is still affecting minority communities nationwide disproportionately.

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is this like a Thanks Obama thing?

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...but I'll totally go there to support this business, especially if a bunch of peckerwoods try giving her shit.

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A booster once it’s my turn. I also have zero plans of carrying around my vaccine card.

Plenty of other places to grab a quick bit to eat.

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Your right for sure. Have at it. You know you can just take a picture of the card as proof in most cases, or is that too much effort?

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would be easy to carry around photos of the front and back of your vax card, maybe stick them in a Notes app or something like that so they're really easily accessible.

If you've bothered to get vaxxed, it seems silly to deny yourself going to good places that ask you to prove it for the safety of their staff and other customers (and not incidentally, you.)

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Smarwhat? Notes awhatt? I go to restaurants carrying nothing, totally naked, with just a credit card rubber banded to my wrist.

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Keep a picture of it on your phone. Problem solved.

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that requires it has accepted a photo on my phone + an ID.

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I got told by the police the other day that the state now wants me to carry around a driving passport!!! IaMMBeingOppResseD!!!!

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They say you need a "passport" to operate a commercial aircraft. This is fascism and communism.

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In some Marxist towns, you need a "passport" to own a dog!

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to enter a fine drinking establishment. Tyranny, I say!

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I have no problem with a business owner choosing to require proof of vaccination, and if a would-be customer chooses not to patronize that business, that's their choice, but why people have to be ass____s about it is beyond me. Stay home and cook your own food, it'll save you money and the public a lot of grief.

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Not only do I get to make a choice that you’re extremely uncomfortable with, but it’s my GOD-GIVERN RIIIIIGGGGGHHHT to make you serve me, when and where I please!

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Did you leave "ass" and bleep out "hole" like that's the troublesome part of the curse word?

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i’m old enough to remember the first time i heard “ass” on TV, and for whatever reason “asshole” became acceptable way after that

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The "ass" in old-timey sayings like "don't be an ass" refers to a jackass i.e., donkey, not to part of human anatomy. The other "ass" in US English is what the brits call "arse".

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i don't remember the context, but i remember some time during the late aughts i was watching some mainstream sitcom on one of the broadcast networks – i hope i'm being specific enough for you – and was surprised to hear just the "hole" in "asshole" bleeped. which is to say i think our poster is probably still using that standard.

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Are holier than thou, of course. And any one who has hesitations is an anti-vaccine, right wing Trump supporter. Pretty common knowledge around here.

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And any one who has hesitations is an anti-vaccine, right wing Trump supporter.

Can you provide a list of reasons for "hesitations" that have not been debunked?

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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-m...

Like many people thought, natural immunity is better. Granted the article states having had Covid and getting at least one shot is better, the point remains. People who have had and recovered from Covid should not be forced to get vaccinated.

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What excuses were you using two days ago, before this study was made public?

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This is the same as nearly every other virus and vaccine and is not evidence for hesitation.

The point of a vaccine isn't to do better than natural immunity or even the same as. It's to provide you enough immunity to avoid likely developing an infection while not having to experience the virus that might kill you in order to do so. Then, we can do that in enough people by injection much easier than spreading the virus around and losing a percentage of the population doing so. The end result is the virus can't find hosts to turn into viral load factories to spread itself and disappears.

AND because the vaccine is a standard (the same protein teaser to everyone's immune system), then we can much better predict the response in the population. If you recover from COVID-19, getting the shot is harmless at worst and provides the same standard protection as everyone else, that you *might* not have gotten from your infection, at best. So they should get vaccinated because you can't *know* that your immune system picked up on the natural infection well. This study just says that many do. And again, that's not really news in the immunity game. You shouldn't bet your life on it either.

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I don’t think there’s a lot of crossover between anti Vaxers and people who eat noodles for a meal.

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And my noodles are probably better than hers. Stop with the profiling.

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Stop with the profiling.

So how was your stop and frisk?

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your kitchen is better than that particular professional chef's. And despite the restaurant's name, noodles are a small part of her menu.

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WOW! Good for you!

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Wow this restaurant owner is practicing segregation. She’s participating in tyranny along with the government and state. Peoples true colors are shining through.

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every time I put my laundry away, but that doesn't make me a tyrant, does it?

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...that the preceding comment was sarcasm.

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put everything into the same drawer, do you?

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i.e., not yours, Brian.

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My bad. The OP's comment history is far too limited for me to jump to any further conclusion. But I fear they were not being sarcastic, which is why I jumped right in with a hopefully more obviously sarcastic reply.

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the "Jim Crow" comment. Couldn't tell if it was idiocy or a lampoon of idiocy.

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It was pretty ambiguous. I gave it the benefit of the doubt, but the comment appears to have been a hit-and-run, so maybe that was a mistake on my part.

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Your true color is "dumb".

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Sadly, you guys don’t respect those who haven’t gotten the shots decision though. And please, stop saying everyone who hasn’t is anti-vaccine. I know a couple of people who said they would do it now that actual authorization has been granted. Because you felt comfortable taking something deemed experimental doesn’t mean everyone has to be.

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deemed experimental

By whom? Using what standard?

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