New Yorkers wouldn't care less about some Red Sox logo on a car, a hat, a shirt or anything else for that matter. Sox fans in Boston freak out way more about the Yankees than Yankee fans do in NYC. That's the difference between a large cosmopolitan city and provincial Boston.
Since 2004, the Red Sox have been more successful than the Yankees in the AL East, and they have beaten the Yankees in each of the last three postseason contests where they met.
New York is way less hostile now. I remember being at the game where Joba infamously threw at Youk twice, and there was a legit like 10 on 10 NY vs. BOS brawl in the upper decks. Game I went to last summer, nobody even paid attention to Sox fans on the subway and I didn’t see any hostility in general. I’ve also never seen a spontaneous Red Sox Suck chant break out against a random team at Yankee Stadium.
Even in Boston now, it’s mostly clowns down from New Hampshire who tell people they’re from Boston, or kids who aren’t even old enough to have experienced the Curse, who have something to say to me when I show up in Pinstripes.
My observation is that Yankees fans, at least the ones who attend the games, and the ones I work with , do in fact care. This has been a gradual change in the last 10-20 years.
The Yankees fans now chant "Boston sucks" (not Red Sox sucks) at Yankees games. That is a fairly recent development.
The current Massachusetts red-on-white plates have been issued for passenger cars since around 1991. They were used earlier for special plates such as taxis, commercial vehicles, etc., starting around 1985 or '86.
There are current campaigns for new plates, but you have to get a minimum number of people to commit to one before they'll even make them. It's hard to build momentum when you have to ask people to preorder something that might never get made, or might happen in five or so years.
You are talking special plates, not the standard issue ones. Since 1991, New York State has had 4 different standard issue plates. Pennsylvania had plates with a Quaker reference, then 2 different websites (though www.state.pa.us probably will still get you somewhere.) Meanwhile, unless you donate some money to a special cause every 2 years, you are sporting plates with a long disused advertising slogan if you have a Massachusetts registered car.
Long story short, the Massachusetts license plate is long overdue for an overhaul.
Sure. In fact, I see no reason we shouldn't be issuing Yankees plates to those who wish to identify themselves as such, with a more than modest vanity plate fee applied. Seems like an all around win.
What's so unusual about this?
Don't most states have an option to create group plate series at a slight premium on registration? All you need is to register a group with them that's something non-offensive, and guarantee a minimum number of orders to make it worth their while to run off the plates.
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This is a different category than a vanity plate or a state alternate plate series.
People up here don't realize most of the antipathy from NY sports fans is internecine- Rangers-Islanders, Giants-Jets, Knicks-Nets. etc.- Believe it was Bob Ryan who once noted that Red Sox fans aren't even the worst Yankee-haters out there with that title going to Met fans
It was rarely competition (on either side) in the Boston sports market for the last few years of that era. Certainly nothing compared to the slightly-artificially-stimulated demand (and more successful on-field product) of the last few decades.
My father lived and worked in Boston and Brookline in the early 50s, and recalled it being a time when he and his roommates would have supper back at the apartment after a work day and decide spur-of-the-moment to go to the Sox (or Celtics... or Bruins) home game that night. Just mosey on over - plenty of tickets available at the box office!
The role of the license plate is to aid in identifying the automobile, from all sides, by both people and machines.
Anything that takes away from that is problematic. The allowing of old green and white plates takes away -- there is no front plate. The allowing of both 1 and I, as well as both O and 0, take away from that, because of ambiguity. The allowing of extra graphics on the plate does not generally help. Sure, at close distance, you can read "Red Sox" or "Save the Whales" or whatever, but at distances where it's possible but hard to read the plates, not so much in my experience.
To say nothing of the reality that the folks who personalize their car the most -- stickers, custom plates, shit hanging in the rearview mirror -- are more likely to drive like jerks. https://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/2008/06/17/r...
This certainly matches my experience. The folks who treat their automobile like a tool drive more safely; those who treat it as an extension of their personality drive like tools.
...I was riding the Red Line early one morning, and I noticed several other passengers wearing Yankees caps. For a moment I wondered if I was riding on the wrong subway.
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Wow, I would never have
By _Sean
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 12:01pm
Wow, I would never have guessed this was legit
http://www.plateshack.com/y2k/New_York5/newyork5.html
I've often thought the
By Benson
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 12:31pm
I've often thought the commonwealth could bring in a fair amount of revenue by charging an extra $50 for a "YANKEES SUCK" plate.
OK, if you owned that car....
By merlinmurph
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 12:36pm
...would you park it in the Bronx? NFW.
Hopefully, this guy lives waaaaaaay upstate.
Still, I'm shocked that plate even exists.
Please...
By Hunter
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 1:31pm
New Yorkers wouldn't care less about some Red Sox logo on a car, a hat, a shirt or anything else for that matter. Sox fans in Boston freak out way more about the Yankees than Yankee fans do in NYC. That's the difference between a large cosmopolitan city and provincial Boston.
Still true today?
By Ron Newman
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 6:23pm
Since 2004, the Red Sox have been more successful than the Yankees in the AL East, and they have beaten the Yankees in each of the last three postseason contests where they met.
In my experience
By ChrisInEastie
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 5:23pm
New York is way less hostile now. I remember being at the game where Joba infamously threw at Youk twice, and there was a legit like 10 on 10 NY vs. BOS brawl in the upper decks. Game I went to last summer, nobody even paid attention to Sox fans on the subway and I didn’t see any hostility in general. I’ve also never seen a spontaneous Red Sox Suck chant break out against a random team at Yankee Stadium.
Even in Boston now, it’s mostly clowns down from New Hampshire who tell people they’re from Boston, or kids who aren’t even old enough to have experienced the Curse, who have something to say to me when I show up in Pinstripes.
Poeple from NH? Identifying with "Taxachusetts"?
By necturus
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 12:16pm
Have I fallen through a wormhole? Does Spock have a beard in this universe?
Things have changed
By anon
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 3:04pm
My observation is that Yankees fans, at least the ones who attend the games, and the ones I work with , do in fact care. This has been a gradual change in the last 10-20 years.
The Yankees fans now chant "Boston sucks" (not Red Sox sucks) at Yankees games. That is a fairly recent development.
They were chanting "Boston sucks" in 1978
By necturus
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 12:14pm
Ah, the days when you could watch baseball games on an ordinary TV set, without subscribing to anything...
Newburgh is upriver from New
By Vicki
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 1:33pm
Newburgh is upriver from New York City, but not very far upstate.
Plus
By ScottB
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 3:40pm
There's way, way more to be frightened of in Newburgh than crazed Yankees fans.
When does MA get a new plate?
By BostonDog
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 12:37pm
Other states seem to update their design more frequently.
About 30 years now!
By Charles Bahne
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 3:52pm
The current Massachusetts red-on-white plates have been issued for passenger cars since around 1991. They were used earlier for special plates such as taxis, commercial vehicles, etc., starting around 1985 or '86.
There are current campaigns
By C
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 4:27pm
There are current campaigns for new plates, but you have to get a minimum number of people to commit to one before they'll even make them. It's hard to build momentum when you have to ask people to preorder something that might never get made, or might happen in five or so years.
You’re missing the point
By Waquiot
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 6:16pm
You are talking special plates, not the standard issue ones. Since 1991, New York State has had 4 different standard issue plates. Pennsylvania had plates with a Quaker reference, then 2 different websites (though www.state.pa.us probably will still get you somewhere.) Meanwhile, unless you donate some money to a special cause every 2 years, you are sporting plates with a long disused advertising slogan if you have a Massachusetts registered car.
Long story short, the Massachusetts license plate is long overdue for an overhaul.
Some do
By perruptor
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 6:11pm
Others --- well, Vermont.
Bring back
By Refugee
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 12:44pm
Bring back the green plate.
Can I imagine it?
By brianjdamico
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 4:18pm
Sure. In fact, I see no reason we shouldn't be issuing Yankees plates to those who wish to identify themselves as such, with a more than modest vanity plate fee applied. Seems like an all around win.
What's so unusual about this?
By Rob
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 4:41pm
What's so unusual about this?
Don't most states have an option to create group plate series at a slight premium on registration? All you need is to register a group with them that's something non-offensive, and guarantee a minimum number of orders to make it worth their while to run off the plates.
-
This is a different category than a vanity plate or a state alternate plate series.
People up here don't realize
By anon_wd
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 5:34pm
People up here don't realize most of the antipathy from NY sports fans is internecine- Rangers-Islanders, Giants-Jets, Knicks-Nets. etc.- Believe it was Bob Ryan who once noted that Red Sox fans aren't even the worst Yankee-haters out there with that title going to Met fans
That's probably because...
By necturus
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 12:13pm
...it's been a few decades since Boston had a second major league baseball team.
It was rarely competition (on
By Rob
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 1:46pm
It was rarely competition (on either side) in the Boston sports market for the last few years of that era. Certainly nothing compared to the slightly-artificially-stimulated demand (and more successful on-field product) of the last few decades.
My father lived and worked in Boston and Brookline in the early 50s, and recalled it being a time when he and his roommates would have supper back at the apartment after a work day and decide spur-of-the-moment to go to the Sox (or Celtics... or Bruins) home game that night. Just mosey on over - plenty of tickets available at the box office!
Issue any plate people want
By anon
Sun, 04/17/2022 - 8:29pm
If state makes a profit and it's not offensive,
Sportsball
By HolyMolyCodPiece
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 6:58am
The sportsball team from the nearest city I claim
As my heritage is better than the sports ball team from the nearest city you claim as your heritage.
Specialized plates are dumb
By anon
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 7:59am
And yes, I know I'm in the minority here, but...
The role of the license plate is to aid in identifying the automobile, from all sides, by both people and machines.
Anything that takes away from that is problematic. The allowing of old green and white plates takes away -- there is no front plate. The allowing of both 1 and I, as well as both O and 0, take away from that, because of ambiguity. The allowing of extra graphics on the plate does not generally help. Sure, at close distance, you can read "Red Sox" or "Save the Whales" or whatever, but at distances where it's possible but hard to read the plates, not so much in my experience.
To say nothing of the reality that the folks who personalize their car the most -- stickers, custom plates, shit hanging in the rearview mirror -- are more likely to drive like jerks.
https://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/2008/06/17/r...
This certainly matches my experience. The folks who treat their automobile like a tool drive more safely; those who treat it as an extension of their personality drive like tools.
OK, off my soapbox. Thanks for listening.
If they made plates with RFID tags...
By necturus
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 12:11pm
... this would all be moot. The cops could identify the car without having to read anything, just like the Mass Turnpike gantries read EZ-Pass tags.
Back in 2019
By necturus
Mon, 04/18/2022 - 12:08pm
...I was riding the Red Line early one morning, and I noticed several other passengers wearing Yankees caps. For a moment I wondered if I was riding on the wrong subway.
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