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Cram and slam at one of America's finest intersections
By adamg on Tue, 10/11/2022 - 2:29pm
Tom the roving UHub photographer couldn't help but stop to take in the crash at Walter and Centre streets in Roslindale around 12:40 p.m. - since the two cars were now occupying the space where he had hope to go to turn left. No injuries that he could tell.
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Are they ever going to
put in a traffic light? Right now, people turning left from Walter to Centre can't always see if Centre is clear when they are turning due to backed up cars waiting to turn left from Centre on to Walter. It's a mess.
A rule from the Boston
A rule from the Boston Traffic Engineer's Handbook:
The bigger the intersection, the less likely it is to have a traffic light.
Give them a traffic light and
Give them a traffic light and before you know it, they're going to want signage, and painted lines! Where will it end?
I recall burning time my time at a meeting about this at St. Ns maybe 8 years ago? Back in the Rep Sanchez days at least. Lots of presentations about options including a rotary, a triangle kind of set-up with a light, etc... Any of them would have been a huge improvement and yet here we are.
Community meetings are just such wastes of time, a symbol of a broken municipal government. Just a place of older homeowners to strut their stuff and shit talk anything.
According to this document, construction of a signalized intersection was to begin in Spring, 2021. It seems to be a real subtle process.
I've been wondering what ever happened to the redesign we heard about years back.
That turn has always been
That turn has always been tough from either direction, but it’s gotten a lot worse lately - sometimes the cars trying to turn left from Walter are three abreast and unless you’re the outermost car, you can’t see a thing (and then you get boxed in by the people lining up to turn left off of Centre). I suspect that more people, myself included, are using that turn to avoid the absolute disaster that the rotary by the Arboretum was turned into. That turning area just isn’t designed to handle the kind of volume it’s now seeing.
What's wrong with the rotary
What's wrong with the rotary by the Arboretum?
When they repainted the rotary, they made the section from the rotary down to Forest Hills one lane, and gave the other lane over to parking and a protected bike lane. It’s a much better setup if you drive to the Arb (less likely to get clipped getting out of your car), or bike along that route. But at rush hour you get huge queues as a lot of traffic flows through that bottleneck.
Is there any movement to fix that rotary (again)?
If you're traveling on Centre toward JP during our 6 hours of daily rush "hour" it takes 10-15 minutes to get through the Arborway rotary, due to drivers in the rotary blocking the box. Can't imagine that kind of idling pollution is what they intended with the design changes.
311 does nothing. Nothing! [shakes fist]
There is a plan
There's even a MassDOT webpage on the issue. It doesn't seem to have been updated in a while. The Bulletin had an article in the past month on the project. It would have been nice to fix everything at once rather than snafuing one portion while the redesign of the rest languishes for years and years on end until any solution will be acceptable.