Herb Chambers says man wanted expensive Range Rover for free and when he didn't get it, tried fake liens and threats
Herb Chambers Jaguar Land Rover in Allston has sued a Rhode Island man it claims tried to wrangle a 2022 Range Rover Sport for free by filing bogus liens with the state that are now not only wasting its time but casting a cloud on its financing work.
In a lawsuit filed in US District Court in Boston, the dealership alleges that Deric Marcell Thompson of Woonsocket initially agreed online with a dealership salesman to purchase the vehicle for $147,497.40 in January.
But after Thompson failed to transfer the money to a dealership account, he began demanding the car anyway, filing a variety of demands and requests that included e-mailing a copy of an alleged certificate of deposit backed by "THREE QUINTILLION, FIVE HUNDRED QUADRILLION" dollars in debts against Chambers, which he signed and thumbprinted. The alleged certificate is part of a long letter, to which he affixed to each page a 2-cent 1945 stamp showing FDR and his winter retreat in Warm Springs. Thompson allegedly claimed that Chambers's mere acceptance of his initial query meant the company had agreed to "a Common Law-contract between us under the Postal rule" to give him the SUV.
The complaint continues that:
The ... Letter concludes with the threat of creating a "Claim of Lien" against each of Chambers' sales associates addressed in the letter heading and Chambers "and file a financing statement against you each, supporting my lien as I deem necessary." The letter states that Chambers had "no right of action or recourse in any action at law, action in equity or Admiralty or any other law herein written or implied against me or my filings."
The letter included a rambling discourse on the Uniform Commercial Code.
On Feb. 2, Herb Chambers says, Thompson filed a UCC-1 form with the Massachusetts Secretary of State's office, claiming ownership of 27 cars in the dealership inventory, worth roughly $2.7 million. He told the dealership it would be worth its while to just give him the Land Rover he wanted in exchange for releasing the "debt," the complaint continues.
The dealership filed its own UCC form with Massachusetts, stating that Thompson's UCC form was bogus. When it sent a letter to Thompson demanding he tell Massachusetts he had no such lien, he responded he'd filed a 1099 form with the IRS stating he was signing over $1.4 million to Herb Chambers - money that, were it actually paid, the dealership would have to pay taxes on. He also threatened to take the dealership to US Tax Court.
Thompson then demanded Herb Chambers pay him $1 million in actual money for copyright and trademark violations - he claimed he had copyrighted and trademarked his name, that the going rate was $500,000 per use and Chambers had used his name twice in its letter demanding he knock all the nonsense off.
He later upped his demand to $1.5 million after Chambers' lawyers wrote him to give him one last chance to fix what he'd done or they'd see him in court.
In its lawsuit, the dealership is asking a judge to declare that all of his claims are bogus and to order Thompson to reimburse it for all of the legal trouble it's had to go through to get him to leave it alone.
Defendant's antics amount to a form of paper terrorism that imperils Chambers' inventory financing which is provided by a legitimate lender with valid and enforceable liens. Chambers' financing arrangement requires that Chambers not use or allow its inventory to secure any other financing instruments. Defendant's false UCC-1 filing creates the appearance of a breach of that obligation and clouds Chambers' title to its inventory.
A judge set a May 5 hearing on the dealership's request for a preliminary injunction to make Thompson stop what he's doing while the case is proceeding.
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Almost as if ...
Two well known local bogus serial lawsuit harassers managed to have a love child (despite the reproductive hurdles) and sent him to be raised by those Moroccan Sovereign Citizens of recent note.
is Shiva not involved in this some way
Smooth move, Adam
You now owe the guy $4.5 mil for using his name 9 times.
ugh, that scam
That sounds like "sovereign citizen" nonsense, which the Canadian courts have stomped on hard.
Stripped of all the stuff about thumbprints and two cent stamps and weird spellings of people's names, their position is essentially:
(1) they never consented to federal or state laws, so nyaa nyaa you're not the boss of me,
(2) even reading a letter from them means you have consented to whatever nonsense demands it contains,
(3) that's not reciprocal. Anything they say is binding, and nothing is binding on them.
Also, (4) that's not how trademark works, that's not how any of this works.
No doubt he will represent himself in court, with bogus paperwork with odd capitalization, references to Admiralty Jurisdiction, and face-palming by the judge.
But the stamps!?!
What do you suppose THAT'S about? (apparently they're only worth about a buck a piece, before he put his spit on them that is)
Makes it "Postal"
Stamps = federal post office, so stamps = "falls under laws about mail".
Light dawns over Marblehead
By Jove, you could be right! Of course, that's a bit of a misunderstanding of "postal law" (which is actually a real thing, I discovered, and relates to how a contract becomes valid when you mail it). But how to explain the significance of FDR in all this?
This is just speculation on my part
but since Warm Springs is where FDR died, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not an obscure allusion trafficking in one of the many conspiracy theories circling around FDR, as explained by Kathryn S. Olmsted in Real Enemies: Conspiracy Theories and American Democracy, World War I to 9/11:
Oh You Know It
This is pure, uncut Sov Cit nuttery and you can hook it directly into my veins.
It's playing all the hits, thumb prints, admiralty law, gross misunderstanding of contracts, the UCC and trademark law. It's a waste of everyone's time. It does not, and will never, prevail in court and this dude should definitely be fined enough that he never feels emboldened to try it again.
Credit where credit is due, equity debt of three quintillion, etc is funny as hell. Just make up an impressively enormous number and people will surely have to believe you.
When you strip it all the way down
Boiled down to the barest of essentials all of these people fall into the camp of stupid people who think they're smarter than everyone else and have figured out the ultimate loopholes to getting what they want while avoiding obligations and responsibilities.
Don't forget that they think they own all the land in America.
You are standing on it and need to pay up buck-o. If you follow it all the way to the end it's just a just a" get rich quick with us because the world owes us" scheme.
That's just the Black Moorish version of the plan
I don't think this guy is one of those because he hasn't given himself a last name of El or Bey, like all proper Black Moors do, and because his communications with the dealership, at least the ones he filed in court, say absolutely nothing about Moroccan-American amity treaties from the 18th century and and his right as one of the true aboriginal owners of the corporate entity known as "the United States" to take whatever he wants.
Plus, the Black Moors don't reference Admiralty Law. That's something the White variants do.
Granted, both do love them some UCC, but even a stopped clock goes down a rabbit hole of insane legal theories and obsolete Latin legal terms at least twice a day.
Man, have I spent too much time reading Black Moorish legal filings over the past year, or what?
Is there a place people go to
Is there a place people go to learn this stuff or is it related to penis size?
Crazy ain't lazy
should be this guy's catchphrase.
The gang sues Herb
Major IASIP vibe. I can definitely see Charlie Kelly lawyering this.
Seems very well versed in bird law, and various other lawyerings.
Don't you know? Birds aren't real, and so bird law has been repealed and replaced with drone law.
his contract is valid
and was signed on behalf of the dealership by one Pepe Silvia. Now if only they could find him..
Maybe he should have come on down
to Ernie Boch instead.
If this guy is one of the kooks who follow this BS.
That is truly some amazing stuff. Thank you for sharing. Gonna go see how I can be POSTMASTER OF THE NOW-MOON or whatever positions remain unfilled.
I'm always amazed
by the loopy language of these folks, as though they had put a legal document and an L. Ron Hubbard novel through a wood-chipper and then glued them back together from instructions they had received after having been visited by a vision of Emanuel Swedenborg:
Anyone who uses a colon in their name
is going to end up an asshole.
But what if they use a semicolon?
Do they end up as an asshole truck?
Of all the weirdness, that might be freaking me out the most.
Alright, what's the ridiculous basis of the claims?
It's similar to the sovereign citizen malarkey but it doesn't seem to be the exact sorts of interpreted laws they like to cite.
I have to hand it to him, this is a devious way to get someone else into trouble with the IRS, at least for a little while:
It's a big step up
From signing them up for magazine subscriptions.
Sending 10 pizzas to someone's house
seems benign compared to framing someone for tax evasion.
On the other hand, a tiny slice of me wishes this guy successes in this endeavor. If it worked, we could all get so much free stuff!
Bordering on extortion
Bordering on extortion. Have fun getting blacklisted by every new car dealer in the Northeast
I find Herb to be a likeable
I find Herb to be a likeable guy. And his success story is so cool.
I want to hate this guy for being a wack job...but his victim is Herb Chambers, so it's a draw?
Herb Chambers who flies an
Herb Chambers who flies an obnoxiously loud helicopter everywhere? Yeah he sucks too.
That’s one less car on the road
I would have thought you’d be happy about that. I guess you hate cars and helicopters.
Helicopters are much worse than Hummers for fuel efficiency, require a lot of maintenance, and are loud, (and because they are slower, the noise lasts longer than other aircraft.) Herb should use the things he sells. They're ostentatious enough.
The real problem is that our
The real problem is that our legal system makes it so easy to do BS like this, and that it’s so expensive to hire lawyers to fight it.
Why can’t the system be designed to make it quick and easy to tell if claims like this have merit or not, so a judge or other official just say “nope” and cut off fake claims at the start?
Dude needs to lay off the
Dude needs to lay off the Herb.
toss in the Four Seasons condo!
Herb Chambers, car mogul, listing Four Seasons condo for $18 million
Should be enough spare change left over from that gajillion dollar lien to get his condo also.
What an interesting fellow
Doing a search for Derric Thompson in Woonsocket gets no hits, but Deric Thompson, according to
"is an independent contractor located in Woonsocket, Rhode Island that received a Coronavirus-related PPP loan from the SBA of $9,375.00 in April, 2021.
The company has reported itself as an American Indian or Alaska native male owned business, and employed at least one person during the applicable loan loan period."
Why do I get the feeling his Native status is as legit as his Herb Chambers claims?