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Hundreds bound for Logan diverted to other New England airports yesterday because of a big ship blocking an approach to a runway

People on several flights headed to Boston got a quick trip to other New England states yesterday afternoon when their flights were diverted from Logan - in one case where the wheels were already down and the plane was on its final approach.

Adam Kessel reported:

UA1160 SFO-BOS aborted landing at 500 feet; felt dangerous; diverted to [Manchester] and landed very roughly; no info provided until post-landing. Pilot could have reassured passengers sooner after aborted landing. Many people want off plane now but are trapped.

While sitting on the tarmac in Manchester, NH, he added:

We were just informed that there was a large ship in the harbor blocking the runway, apparently a factor in the aborted landing. Shouldn’t ATC have been aware of this?

Maybe the fog that rolled in yesterday afternoon had something to do with it? It turns out one of Logan's runways, 4R, requires close coordination between pilots and captains of the bigger ships that transit through Boston Harbor to ensure the former don't crash into the latter.

Kessel had company:

We are stuck on LAX-BOS flight next to you guys at MHT right now.

Then, after United let the passengers chill for a bit, instead of letting them out to explore the sights of Manchester, the plane took off again, and this time back to Logan. Kessel concluded:

Surprisingly, we made it back, only two hours late.

Pete Cannon had a similar diversion, but to Maine:

Something might be F’d in the harbor; I am on a BOS-bound flight that just landed in Portland because "a ship is blocking the runway approach."

Caroline, who lives near the water, reported:

We have been hearing many ship horns sounding, more than typical, and wondering also.

By 6:15 p.m., the big boat had moved on, as Boston Sunshine reported:

Big boy A380 just touched down here at Logan so definitely back open for business.

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Should a large vessel be in the harbor where the planes take-off and land?

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Could't they have simply asked the ship to move 200 yards?? Or maybe have the planes join the pattern until it was cleared? Something in this story seems off.

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The ship doesn't have its phone number on the side like a taxi. ATC is in the 120s and Marine Radio is in the 150s.

If it was a tanker/cargo ship it was probably being tugged as well.

The ship wasn't big enough to create a ground stoppage. It had a ~150 ft mast which was told to the pilot on approach. Each pilot has to decide if it's safe to land for themselves or not. Besides, the fact that the initial plane being discussed went to MHT by diversion and landed before coming back to BOS suggests it didn't have the fuel to even come around and try again let alone going into an indefinite holding pattern until the ship fully passes the runway.

But the one thing I learned from the link below is the pilot can't rely on ILS landing (instrument-guided) when a tall enough ship is present. So, it's probably more likely a pilot isn't going to take as much risk if he's having to visualize everything for himself and not have the benefit of an instrument telling him how far off the path he is.

The story sounds normal for runway 4R at BOS.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/bostons-airport-has-a-runway-where...

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The story literally states that they do.

"It turns out one of Logan's runways, 4R, requires close coordination between pilots and captains of the bigger ships that transit through Boston Harbor to ensure the former don't crash into the latter"

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The line you picked out "pilots" and "captains of ships" doesn't seem to actually state direct communication between planes and ships.

ATC and the ship can talk, if the ship contacts ATC by phone like they are supposed to, or if they can't contact by phone then they are to contact via the USCG on VHF, who will then notify ATC by phone.

From the linked article:

Vessels with an air draft height of 85 feet (26 meters) or greater are advised to report their maximum air draft heights (including masts, cranes, antennae, or other projections) when anchored or in transit in Boston Harbor between Deer Island and the World Trade Center. Notification is to be made to the Massachusetts Port Authority’s Communication Center, preferably via telephone … Vessels without telephone capability are requested to provide notification to Coast Guard Sector Boston on VHF channel 81, to be relayed via telephone to the Massachusetts Port Authority’s Communication Center.”

Then the article goes into the technological solution to the vessels that fail to do what they are supposed to do, the Tall Vessel Detection System...

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So what you are saying is there is a way or system in place for communication between a plane and a ship. Thanks for making my point.

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Point? You didn't have a point. You asked two questions. Questions are not a "point" being made.

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There wouldn't be a need for a detection system for too-tall ships if the communication was always in place...

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Much like your thought train, the "communication" system is one-way. That makes it a *notification* system. The ships notify Logan that they're over the height restriction and they're going to be present IF they have a phone. If the don't have a phone, then they tell the Coast Guard and the Coast Guard calls Logan...AND all that does is notify Logan that they're there. What ATC and the planes do about that info is on their own...they don't get to call the boat back and be like "hey, you've been there for like 4 hours...you go home now!". It's not a communication channel. It's a notification channel and it's not even between the plane and ship and it's not even letting the plane notify the ship of anything...

Ships be shipping. Planes be planing. Planes might have to make tough decisions. Pilots do it all the time for lots of reasons.

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There was also a low fog, which would require they take the ILS approach if the runway isn't visible. The ILS glide scope isn't really adjustable to account for obstacle. For example, it can't guide a pilot to hold one altitude until past the ship and then descend more sharply into the runway, it's a fixed slope into the runway.

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For this reason, when the ships are tall enough (over 85 feet) to get even close to the ILS path, ILS is not an option while the ship is present and is shut off.

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…. I don’t need to fly all that often anymore.
But I dread it now because of all the regular delays and mishaps I hear about from those I know who do and what you read in the papers.

It used to be fun to fly.

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Flew to London in May. Red eye. Left Logan when we were supposed to be arriving at Heathrow. It did actually work out better for the time difference, but was not a fun night in the airport. Terminal E suuuuuucks.

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And have TSA pre + global entry. Aside from that, it’s pretty brutal.

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Well, la di da, robo!

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I have friends who fly 3-4 times a year so they say TSAPre (global is only for international) isn't worth it. That's 6-8 times standing in the regular security line!

As somebody who flies regularly, TSAPre/Global and Chase Sapphire for Lounge access is the ONLY way to go at this point

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offer a quasi-Pre at certain fare tiers. Jet Blue Extra includes expedited security at a bunch of airports, Logan included. Used it last year and can vouch that it’s worth it. Not quite the same as Pre but a happy medium for those who only fly a few times a year.

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...explore the sights of Manchester...

That's funny.

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I got diverted to Manchester a few years ago (thunderstorm caused a giant backup at Logan). They didn’t want to let anyone get off at first, then let us walk around the terminal (although I think all the regular flights for the day were done, Dunks was the only thing still open). Surprisingly, after a few people pointed out they could practically walk home, they let anyone who wanted to go leave.
The flight to Logan was fun, took longer to taxi on either end than it did to fly. I was watching out of the window and guessed maybe Nashua after a couple minutes then realized we were already over Saugus.

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Yesterday, BOS was dropping into Lo-IFR conditions at about 4:30PM. Either ceiling under 500 feet, and visibility under a half-mile restricts Logan to one IFR-capable runway, 4R.

A Runway 4R ILS approach, beyond the radio (localizer, glideslope) & runway approach lighting system, requires that the ship channel be free of tall vessels, to permit continued aircraft approaches.

If a cruise ship had a scheduled departure (high tide?), and had to traverse the runway-end ship channel, Logan just lost its last runway for the duration of ship's passage.

The only thing Air Traffic Control can do is hold off incoming flights until the ship clears. ATC already has incoming flights scheduled every 2-3 minutes. Lose that last runway? Everybody waits, or diverts.

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It was fog, not a stuck ship.

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Nonsense. No large ships were blocking any runways yesterday (Saturday). And winds were south and southwest, so the active runways wouldn’t be affected by any ships anyway. Flights to PVD were diverted elsewhere today. It happens.

If you need to know why your plane is late, try here https://nasstatus.faa.gov/

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Fog was also very likely a contributing factor, however you can go listen to the ATC archive from that night and ATC was indicating no ILS and a ship mast up to 135 feet in the channel for UA1150's approach (the tweet has a typo). Would have been a very specific glide path to get below the fog and above the mast without any auto-navigation, so it's very reasonable to do what the pilot did.

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Perhaps he'd like a word with you. It's been a half century, but some lessons are best not learned twice.

4R is treacherous enough in the fog without a big boat changing the landing pattern dynamic. Although a big boat might notice that a plane crashed ...

Delta Flight 723

NY Times Article from 8/1/73

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wye not another runway ?

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Basically, there are 6 runways at KBOS (Logan):
Two sets of paired runways:
4L/22R, 4R/22L
15L/33R, 15R/33L
And two singletons:
9/27, 14/32
They each have two numbers relating to their direction on a 360 degree compass and the direction you're approaching them (approximate to the nearest 10s and remove the 0, so 9 = 90 = facing magnetic East).

Only 2 of them are 10,000 feet long for the bigger, heavier planes: 4R/22L and 15R/33L. And between those two, 4R (the one that has the boat issue) has better taxiways for getting planes to pretty much all terminals. At the same time, you also need a runway for takeoffs too (you rarely route traffic to takeoff and land from the same runway for somewhat obvious logistical reasons). And you have to account for the wind direction.

So, given the poor weather condition at the time, longer is better (more time to see the ground and land before missing the runway). And the wind will matter even more to the pilot. So 4R was the longest, best chance at landing bigger planes in the weather even if it meant shutting off the IFR landing system for a small window while the ship passed through and forcing pilots into a harder landing situation...since they do have the option of leaving and trying again or going to an alternate city, refueling, and coming back to try again later.

And last, whatever you choose for routing the planes, you pretty much have to do for all of them because of having to coordinate landings and takeoffs on multiple runways (until you create a gap or there's a gap in schedule for changing approach vectors for the next planes). There were still other planes making landings on 4R with IFR off and the ship passing through.

There may be other considerations I'm not even aware of. I just armchair this stuff occasionally watching the radar, listening to ATC, and reading up.

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I had friends returning from Italy and they got diverted to Hartford for awhile before finally getting to BOS.
When they texted what happened, I sent them this UHub story.

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