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Where to spot cardinals in Boston this weekend
By adamg on Fri, 03/03/2023 - 10:57am
The Heights reports "five cardinals, six archbishops, 21 bishops, and 40 theologians from across the country" are gathering at Boston College this weekend for what it says is "the largest gathering of Catholic leadership at a university in US history." They'll be looking at synodality, the idea of decentralizing Church decision making.
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Time to alert Mary Ellen
Time to alert Mary Ellen so she can get some of her wonderful nature pictures of all those cardinals outside their natural habitats.
The confluence of St. Louis Cardinal and Arizona Cardinal fans to celebrate the NFL draft and/or the beginning of baseball season.
Good weekend to take your
Good weekend to take your kids out of town.
Please explain your statement so that we can better understand what you mean.
Purposely ignoring child
Purposely ignoring child molestation and rape isn’t a good look, John Boy.
Collective Assignment Of Guilt
That's what it is.
There is no ignoring rape and I am glad Bernie is hell.
However, there was someone whining here yesterday about perceived anti-Semitism that may arise because of a statue about a tv character.
Here on Uhub, certain people, you, Spokeboy, and other pig headed racists get away with open anti-Catholicism.
It is a double standard that somehow is tolerated by Adam. It is disingenuous.
That's all. Now go make fun of people lighting themselves on fire you runt.
Today's daily affirmation..
Brought to us by Stuart (J.C.) Smalley.
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, I don't care if people don't like me just because I continually shriek anti-Catholicism for completely invalid reasons."
Might as well add me to your enemies list.
Cardinal Law was handsomely rewarded for his role, and yeah, there is probably plenty more collective guilt that has gone unpunished, including perpetrators, those who covered for them, and even those who just looked the other way. It didn't happen in a vacuum.
As a former altar boy (who was one of the lucky ones that didn't get molested) I hope they all keep hearing about it for the rest of their days. The day the Church can get people to forget or keep quiet about it is the day it can start all over again.
Also, anyone who hasn't yet should watch Spotlight and thank the Boston Phoenix and the Boston Globe for their service.
Haven't Been To Church In Decades
Save for weddings and funerals.
I have no love for the Catholic Church. My aunt danced on Oliver Crowell's temporary grave in Westminster. I spat on it. I want to piss on Bernie The Pimp's if I ever get to Rome again.
However, I was raised in the mores of what was taught, not practiced by as the movie Spotlight references, 4% of the church staff. (4% see - see that 4% is 96% less than 100%).
There is however, a virulent hatred by some here of anything, anything associated with the dominant culture that flows throughout this area.
It's like saying, well if 4% of a certain group commits bad things, then all of those people associated with that group are guilty.
That is when one needs to get defensive and that is what I do.
If you can't see that, then I guess, you aren't all there.
PS - It was the Ledger that had the story well before the Phoenix. A friend of my who is now at NPR knew they wanted to grow the story but didn't have the resources.
I am confused
What does Oliver Cromwell have to do with the Catholic Church?
I was confused because you mentioned Cromwell in the context of your lack of love for the Catholic Church. I now see that you were demonstrating that that did not moderate your loathing of anti-Catholicism, of which you take Cromwell as a model. I'm not sure whether the savagery of Cromwell's invasion of Ireland is better considered as an example of anti-Catholic bigotry, or of English imperial brutality, but either will do.
Let’s spell it out one more time
We’ve been over this many times, John, but let’s do it once more.
Catholicism is a religion.
Catholics are a group of people.
The Catholic Church is an organization.
The Catholic Church, the organization, placed people in positions of authority, who abused that authority to rape children. At a deeply institutional level, the organization shielded those abusers, protected them from discovery and prosecution, and enabled further rape and abuse.
Fury at the Church for its institutional role in enabling the rape of children (the innocent victims being, on the whole, Catholics) is not in any way, shape, or form bigotry against Catholics or against Catholicism.
The cardinals coming to Boston are not ordinary Catholics; they are the leadership of the institution. Pointing out that they are the leadership of an institution with a history of enabling child rape, by suggesting that children are not safe around the leadership of that institution, is not in any way, shape, or form bigotry against Catholicism as a religion or against Catholics as a people.
Stop defending the actions of the institution by accusing those who criticize it if bigotry against the religion or the people.
Collective guilt and institutional guilt
There is a difference between collective guilt and institutional guilt. The molestations and rapes of children by individual priests were individual crimes, and the guilt for them is individual. The protection of those individuals, the coverup of those rapes and molestations, the care for the reputation of the church over the dignity of the victims, are crimes of the institution. The Roman Catholic Church is hierarchical, and makes strong claims for the authority of its higher officers. If they have such authority over it, then they are responsible for its crimes.
Kinopio erases the distinction between institutional guilt and collective guilt by suggesting that the senior members of the church are themselves likely to commit the individual crimes which the institution has protected. This kind of confusion is typical of satire. Kinopio's post is weak satire, but it is satire. It is certainly true that some have, in their accusations, transformed the institutional guilt of the church into collective guilt of its clergy. This is not, however, anti-Catholic bias, it is anti-clerical bias, or, more precisely, anti-Catholic-clerical bias. It is bias against someone because they represent an institution perceived to be corrupt, not because of their religious beliefs.
Wow, it only took 2&1/2 hours
Wow, it only took 2&1/2 hours for someone to go there.
Cathedral Station in South End
Will be busy for a few days, "oh, we're just spreading.... the word, yes, the word is what we're spreading."
All-time great trivia question re: "cardinal" precedence...
... I believe the answer to the question of, "which usage of cardinal came first?" is:
--first: "cardinal," a priest of the Roman Catholic church;
--second: "cardinal," the distinctive color of their apparel;
--third: "cardinal," the North American bird.
They don't have any kids to rape, or child predators to harbor?
Never forgive, never forget -- off with all their heads
I spotted some yesterday!
There were a couple of them in the rose bush in the neighbor's yard, making a racket. I was worried their ceremonial robes were caught on the thorns, so I went out to help, but they flew off. I think it was a mated pair. Not sure the church is OK with that, but that's none of my business.
Ringer Park Allston
They nest there also.
Somehow I don't think the
Somehow I don't think the Pope is going to be convinced to decentralize his power anymore than he already has. These kind of things take decades to resolve.
More like centuries.
More like centuries.