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UMass Amherst urges international students going home for winter break to return to campus before Jan. 20
By adamg on Sat, 11/16/2024 - 9:23am
UMass Amherst is telling foreign students and faculty they probably want to be back on campus before the change of administration in Washington - and will provide housing for any undergraduate students who do return back from winter break early without a place to stay.
In an advisory, the school says international students and professors should "strongly consider returning to the United States prior to the presidential inauguration day of January 20, 2025 if they are planning on traveling internationally during the winter holiday break," which runs through the end of January.
[B]ased on previous experience with travel bans that were enacted in the first Trump Administration in 2016, the Office of Global Affairs is making this advisory out of an abundance of caution to hopefully prevent any possible travel disruption to members of our international community. We are not able to speculate on what a travel ban will look like if enacted, nor can we speculate on what particular countries or regions of the world may or may not be affected.
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2017
Muttonhead came in in January 2017, not 2016.
C'mon Flagship U, can't you get that right?
You tell 'em
John. Feel better?
Someone is salty
Someone is salty about something, but not about getting the year wrong.
A factual error in their
A factual error in the sentence that sums it all up. Telling.
Telling What?
Are you trying to pretend this didn't happen as soon as Trump entered office last time, troll?
Here's a fun tidbit from the article:
Telling of the degeneration
Telling of the degeneration of standards, or carelessness. 2016 is not 2017.
I’m not opining on the policy, I’m concurring with a comment about a bad flub from our Ivy of publics.
So Useless Rage Trollery
got it. First typo ever.
Why do you use ad hominem
Why do you use ad hominem attacks to suppress my innocuous comment? Aren’t you the one policing this space to be in ideological lockstep by the negative sanction of “troll?”
Your comments are not innocuous
They never have been.
Telling
That you don't know what the word "suppress" means. Now that's ironic.
Right wing trolls like you have some pretty funny ideas about "suppression". Freedom of speech doesn't mean you don't have to occasionally face some push back when you say dumb sh*t.
Fair enough, but it’s a gross
Fair enough, but it’s a gross mischaracterization, or misreading to call me right wing.
Maybe...
...don't use right wing constructions and talking points then?
You misgendered, assumed an improper race
And then religion then doubled down after your mistake. You’re the definition of right wing.
I’m sure you’ll call me a bot or a troll, which doesn’t even make sense except for a boomer that just learned those words and applies them to anything they don’t like.
lol
Misgendering is when someone states their gender and you deliberately refer to them as some other gender.
You tried...
Lol
You were already told that poster was a woman at least once, but you continue to call them a man. Is your memory that bad that I need to dig up the posts?
Degeneration of UHub
Sudden appearance and commenting profusely. Verbose idiocy, blathering, fact-free spectulation, sealioning, JAQing off, sprinking in rightwing talking points and antivaxxer gobbledigook then playing dumb ... but OMG SOMEONE DID A TYPO!!!1!!!!1111!!!!!
Go away. Burying your troll nonsense in lots of words and pretending to be dim isn't the cute trick you think it is. Your entire mission here seems to be to "flood the zone with shit".
Wow.
Wow. Just, wow.
You taxonomize me wrongly.
You taxonomize me wrongly.
In this day and age who would think they had to say they’re “pro-vaccine,” but I’m pro-vaccine. What I did say is I have sympathy, I feel bad for the two cases in UH where someone lost their job and career and the lost opportunity cost of pension earnings, because they didn’t want a vaccine out of a sincerely held belief, their religion, fear, or they fell for the anti-vax snake oil charlatan profiteers and the firehose of misinformation, I compounded my sin, my heresy by not joining in the heaping of scorn on my fellow brothers and sisters who see the world differently
I appreciate pushback, lively, or otherwise. It does make me stop and think. (And, open and more carefully read Adam’s attached court documents &c..)
I’m fully aware of the wretchedness coming from the firehose on the right and I understand the notion of being part of a “united front” in opposition, but not at the cost of our values, and humanity.
“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”
Friedrich W. Nietzsche
Hey
Hey, I "feel bad" for chumps too. They took it a wee bit further than that, and so did you. "Feel bad" means just that, a feeling, maybe saying something "yeah, too bad he got chumped, there's a cure for that, hope he gets a rush of sense to the head real soon". You got into a "yes but" loop, not the same thing.
Many international students
Many international students are not going to consider the us as an option. There are other less hateful places to go. Sad we will lose talented people. The schools rely on international students as a major financial source.
That’s not a bad thing to MAGA voters.
They want to destroy universities and drive away talented people. That’s the plan.
Please provide a citation
Of Trump threatening to end student visas. Thanks,
He could increase student visas tenfold
And we're STILL going to lose brilliant minds to other more stable nations.
Trump and his adherent's xenophobia is the problem.
Let Me Google That For You
Students Stranded Worldwide By Trump Order
That took me 5 seconds. Next question?
That had nothing to do
With student visas specifically. They unfortunately were traveling from a country which doesn’t provide vetting information to the US about its citizens traveling.
Some of the countries on that list haven’t issued out any form of gov ID to its citizens in decades because they’re such dysfunctional terrorist hotbeds.
The Muslim ban disrupted lots
The Muslim ban disrupted lots of students lives, many were stranded. Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean it didn’t happen and won’t happen again.
But I was told Wokeness is the problem
I'm so confused!!! Now back to my Jordan Peterson podcast so I can feel smart.
I doubt it. Sure, the
I doubt it. Sure, the offsprings of Russian and Chinese generals will be less likely to attend. But there are enough plutocrats elsewhere in the world to fill all of Northeastern campuses over.
And if Trump manages to push through green cards for US college graduates, we will get even more of brain drain coming our way from the rest of the world.
What are you on about?
None of that makes sense.
How many international
How many international students have you known?
Several
Including my wife and a bunch of her friends. What makes you think Trump will do anything to discourage children of his Russian and Chinese autocrat buddies from getting visas? And more green cards? Not likely.
Trump loves China and Russia.
Trump loves China and Russia. He admires their dictators bigly, and their autocratic administrations as well. Chinese and Russian undergrads have nothing to worry about.
If I were an international
If I were an international student I would reconsider going to school in the US if I thought I would not be able to travel on January 21st. UMass and other colleges should consider offering students who choose not to come back a refund and quick assistance in transferring if they are that concerned about travel bans.
If a travel ban for my country was enacted would I then be stuck in the US and not be able to travel freely? It feels like a ban would be an indicator of a greater threat to my safety than simply missing a few classes.
I get that bans might be more for incoming rather than outgoing but it would still give me a lot of unease if I were in that situation.
Jan 20th will be akin to Y2K
A lot of fear and dread built up that never materialized. The predicted end of the world didn't happen in 2000, it didn't happen in 2017 and it won't happen in 2025. It will be just another day with folks going about their usual life.
Y2K only didn't happen because of a LOT of preventive action
If a lot of resources hadn't been devoted to fixing things before Dec. 31, 1999, the predicted Y2K problems would definitely have happened. Don't confuse the success of preventive action with there never having been the need for that action in the first place.
Fear mongering makes people feel good
Who cares if these international students miss time with family at home and possibly have to pay higher air fares to rush back before some imagined decree closing the borders on Inauguration Day?
Oh honey
Yes, we just imagined that what happened in 2017 actually happened (eyeroll).
Either share your hallucinogens or seek therapy for your delusions.
Appropriate preparation
... leads to successful outcomes.
That's why those "problems didn't happen". They were prevented from happening.
Duh.
Missed the point
As usual you are too wrapped up in insulting anyone on here that does not agree with you to see that you made my point. Cue the standard "Oh honey, get help for your mental illness" reply.
She didn't
She's entirely right about Y2K. Are you even old enough to remember it?
Well Y2K was actually kind of
Well Y2K was actually kind of fun in a what if sense, and once it past the potential bad was gone. Wouldn’t say the same of 1/20.
Cutting the power to the apartment we were partying at for Y2K when it hit midnight was really fun. I’d just be a jerk if I did that 1/20.
why do these types of threads de-evolve so quickly?
And thank you for the “West of 495” tag!
Love,
The Pioneer Valley