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DA vows to appeal judge's decision to not let her drop charges against seven protesters; police union objects to Pressley's support of a bail fund

The Suffolk County District Attorney's office reports Boston Municipal Court Judge Richard Sinnott refused to let its prosecutors drop charges against seven people arrested during protests Saturday over the pro-Trump bigot march through Back Bay and downtown.

All seven were charged with disorderly conduct, some also with resisting arrest. Sinnott did allow prosecutors to drop the cases against two protesters for whom "the police reports did not present probable cause to support charges," the DA's office reports.

DA Rachael Rollins vowed to seek a reversal of Sinnott's decisions:

By compelling arraignment in every case, the judge punished the exercise of individuals' First Amendment right to protest. At my request, prosecutors used the discretion constitutionally allocated to the executive branch to triage cases and use our resources most effectively to protect public safety. Make no mistake: some people were appropriately arraigned and will be held accountable for actions that put the safety of the public and law enforcement at risk. For those people now tangled in the criminal justice system for exercising their right to free speech - many of whom had no prior criminal record - I will use the legal process to remedy the judge’s overstepping of his role.

Prosecutors did move forward with more serious charges against seven other people - who were charged with offenses that included assault and battery on a police office, carrying a dangerous weapon and accosting.

Separately, the Boston Police Patrolmen's Association fired off an angry letter to US Rep. Ayanna Pressley for her support of a fund helping 34 protesters pay for bail and legal expenses.

In the letter, BPPA President Michael Leary told Pressley that, if anything, she should be convincing people to respect the police:

My members have informed me that the individuals who were arrested on Saturday were not peaceful protesters but were committing crimes of assault against Boston Police Officers. In fact at least four officers were injured by actions of some of the protesters. These officers were screamed at, abused and fought by these so-called peaceful protesters. Your actions in support of these individuals serves only to encourage criminal and disruptive behaviors such as those suffered by my members this weekend. This attitude also further contributes to the growing we/they attitude against police officers in this Country. As an elected official and particularly as someone who has historically worked with the Boston Police Department and the BPPA as a member of the Boston City Council you should be working to encourage Boston city residents and visitors to respect and cooperate with Boston Police officers who are there to serve and protect. The BPPA supports the right of free speech, but free speech does not include the right to abuse and assault the men and women who are appointed to keep the peace. ...

I urge you to reconsider your support of the protest bail fund. Instead, I hope you will make it clear to your supporters that you don't approve of violent behavior against public safety personnel.

A list of the arrested people and their charges show that, in fact, most of the people arrested Saturday were not charged with "committing crimes of assault against Boston Police officers."

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Were any members of the parade arrested?

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Two.

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For anything serious, the assaults and dangerous weapons charges were all counter protesters.

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Funny how all of the videos of antifa losers show them shouting at others (also losers) to get out of "their city"...take a look at the arrest docket. Almost every one of these complete dimwits are from places other than boston.

I wish all of the loser straight pride a$$holes and violent mob mentality antifa zeros would just stay in their little suburbs and go back to their video games.

Glod lord, I have never seen a more unlikable group of people in my life. The whole lot is detestable.

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“I created much of the intellectual foundation for what they do. I support what they do.” - Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) on her role in the Occupy movement

Has anyone in the media asked Warren if she stands with her own Boston Police or stands with far-left Antifa on this? If poor Biden's frailty continues and Warren is somehow nominated, the Trump v. Warren debates and BPD endorsement of Trump on the Boston Common will be epic. The Common may not be able to handle it with all of the police and their supporters. It will be fun to watch Marty (if still in office) squirm over the permitting process as Warren and her agitators riot nearby. Bad look for the Democrat party going into an election.

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I'd stand with them, given the alternative.

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...of violently protesting another group's sanctioned expression of free speech, regardless of whether you agree with their message or not, "anti fascist?"

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"nonviolent protesters attacked then arrested by cops facing corruption scandals" did you not understand? Read the fucking statement, idiot.

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While acting like fascists. Cool.

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The what-aboutism levels that come out whenever someone discusses anti-fascists is impressive. The anti-fascists didn't come out of nowhere. Do you remember them being active five years ago? Nope, because the fascists were subdued. But once the fascists/neo-nazis came to more prominence, the anti-fascists came out. The only reason the "antifa" exists is to present a strong front against fascism. If fascism went away, so would they. You may not like exactly how they go about it, but a strong response to fascism is … well, not bad.

So, sure, go out and defend fascists. That's worked out so well in the past.

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They were or all are white supremacist in order to justify violence. Just because you don’t agree with someone doesn’t make them a racist, that outlook makes you an idiot.

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They're not racist because I disagree with them, they're racists because they say and do racist things. If they wish to stop saying and doing racist things, I will happily stop calling them racists.

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Can you name the individual(S) that did these racist things? And, what are these racist things?

I want examples. I'm tired of people being called racist, bigots, etc.. just because you don't agree with them.

Enough.

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And so could you if you put in a modicum of effort. But you won't, so.

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is not equivalent to fascism.

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The real intolerance is not tolerating your intolerance. Obviously.

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You sound concerned.

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You people have gone off the deep end.

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I think both parties have gone off the rails. And this fascists v. antifa is a symptom of that.

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One of the out of town folks arrested ran for office as a member of Liberty Union Party. So not a "D" or a "R"...

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You mean people that believe that constitutional rights belong to everyone? That out of control police forces need to be disciplined and corrupt police departments disbanded and reformed?

You fascist make me sick. My grandfather didn't suffer lifelong disabilities so that you can hump your guns and cops can attack people with impunity.

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"...Boston Municipal Court Judge Richard Sinnott refused to let its prosecutors drop charges..."

That's his right. It's what judges do.

(Following from a Herald article, not verbatim, the other judge)

"I want to visit relatives in JP."
"No, they can visit you. You're only allowed here to visit your lawyer and court dates. You get caught here it's ninety days in the hoosegow."

I have faith that the judiciary will enforce the laws that the DA won't.

I say bring them back to court. Give them the hearings that they apparently so wanted.

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Judges do not have the right to determine who a prosecutor will bring a case against. Our system gives prosecutors that discretion. This decision is overstepping the judge's authority.

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Individuals from so-called “far-left Antifa” and BPD officers and their supporters are equally Senator Warren’s constituents.

To reiterate a point made earlier, I don’t think she’ll have a problem choosing sides.

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there's no choosing sides in this - they are all nutjobs. this is not a game of "would you rather".

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People standing there, behind the cordons and being attacked by police are "nutjobs" too?

No. The police are out of control. I'm sick of paying for their special rights to hurt people for no reason, particularly when those people are exercising their first amendment rights.

False equivalence is a logical fallacy.

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And what was put into it, Boston did not want something to happen like happened in Virginia. I think one of the big differences is that VA had real bad Nazis (known violent skinhead and prison gang groups with violent histories), and Boston had fringe wierdos (Alt right in theory, but not a criminal history of violence as these Southern Groups had). Even those Patriot Front individuals who were identified by local and federal authorities over the past few years did not show up for this event (or many were missing that were expected to show and they did have violent histories)

In VA the police let the two sides confront each other in hopes that no violence would take place. That didn't happen and it got out of control. Boston police were ordered to keep the parade route clear and had distinct lines in place to prevent either side from confronting each other. VA police didn't do that and their lines of protection broke down when protesters were allowed to push by front police lines.

In the end Walsh, Gross, Baker, and other MApoli were gambling that minor police aggression against antifa was better than taking the risk of doing what police did in VA. Although white out of towners seem to gather a lot of social media support, this will blow over in a few days and as people can see by FISH's likes on his comment, most people probably don't care anyway.

On the other hand it would be interesting to see cities keep fighting the ACLU and Nazis when they apply for parade permits. All you need is one judge to opine the other way and possibly a Supreme Court to rule in the Cities favor.

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Nope. Both sides are not "nutjobs." There are open fascists trying to shift the Overton window in their direction and there are people pushing back against them. It's very telling that this "both sides" argument is only coming from the right.

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Is not "pushing back". We are a country of PEACEFUL protest. Violate that (and support people doing that) and you are a nutjob.

You only think of it as coming from the right because if you are right of antifa in your book, you are a wingnut in the eyes of people supporting antifa.

Supporting the Constitution and the equal enforcement of the law is not right or left wing thing and doesn't mean you are supportive of the fascists either - only their rights under the Constitution that can't be obstructed no matter how abhorrent their beliefs.

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i missed the molotovs, can you point me to those videos?

What I did see was Police punching protestors, using bicycles as weapons, and spraying pepper spray indiscriminately into a crowd without ever giving any orders to disperse.

Stop this both sides nonsense.

The fascists are fully in control while "Antifa" are about as dangerous as the hippies we were warned about 60 years ago.

They're a boogeyman, a bunch of mostly kids lashing out at what they perceive as injustice.

They're not funded by gop thinktanks
or connected to white supremacist groups or outlaw biker gangs.

Those would be the Trümpenfuhrer's brown sh- (excuse me) his "Red Hats" and sexually repressed "Proud Boys".

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It's interesting that in your mind the fascists have a constitutionally protected right to free speech, but the anti-fascists do not. It's also interesting that you continue to push the narrative that anti-fascists are these violent hooligans who are looking for trouble. In reality, the violence committed by fascist groups like the Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer, and
Identity Evropa far outweighs any violence committed by anti-fascists. Far right extremists have killed dozens of people just in the past few months. "Antifa" has killed exactly zero people.

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But please don’t join them in validating the use of “Antifa” to describe an organized group.

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You're right. To be clear, Antifa is not an organization and most of the people who were protesting do not identify as "Antifa."

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They just have to obey the law - they didn't get arrested for protesting. They got arrested for breaking the law (apparently as did two parade marchers).

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Have you ever been given a warning for speeding?

2/3 of the arrests the Herald reports are for disorderly conduct. We prosecute disorderly conduct every time now? I guess you’ve never been out on a Saturday night.

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Lots of people were arrested for protesting. One person was pepper sprayed and arrested for calling a cop a "pig." One person was arrested for having a bullhorn. But now you're just moving goalposts.

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where they at least attempt to straighten out both sides of the story. If the police overstepped (especially in this bastion of progressive thought), I trust the courts to do a better job than politicians and the peanut gallery (us). It's not perfect - but it's better than most alternatives.

Do you actually live here? (in the US - not just Boston).

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Do you actually live here? (in the US - not just Boston)

This is the second time this week that you've used the lazy trope of insinuating that I'm a Russian troll because you disagree with what I'm saying. Yes, I was born and raised in Massachusetts and I've lived in Boston for 15 years.

Do you actually live here? (in reality - not just Boston)

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It sounds like you never made it past 6th grade civics. I agree with you that the fascists need to be opposed in the strongest legal way.

Note LEGAL.

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the Polish politely asked the Nazis to refrain from invading them? Pretty sure they sent quite a few very official and legal requests....
Also find it amusing how you posit that this is a country of PEACEFUL protesting when the protest that birthed this very country covered Boston in blood 200+ years ago. Yet you admonish someone for not making it past 6th grade civics class? Dude have you EVER read a history book? Even skimmed one? Not counting the bible either...

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And there was this thing called the civil war too. Those were not exactly protests. I know, words are hard.

So next time somebody marches that I disagree with, it's OK to gather up a bunch of my like-minded friends, disobey police orders and beat the crap out of them?

Riiiigght - got it.

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Everything is legal up until you take a swing. The point you seem to keep missing over and over is that some of these people were arrested for SAYING things, and other assorted BS like HAVING a bullhorn.
how's that boot leather taste?

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Was written by someone who broke the law.

Almost any resistance to authority can be characterized as illegal by those in power, JD. I guess your civics class skipped that.

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Antifa = MLK and the civil rights marchers

They weren't even the marchers - they were the hooligans in the crowd (innocent etc.)

Riiigght - Got it bush leaguer.

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Read what I wrote. Is it your knee jerk defense of authority that's causing the reading comprehension problem?

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To figure out your point.

Are you saying that if I think someone is unjustly arrested they shouldn't have to face a judge?

Oh wait - it's YOU that gets to be judge and jury. My bad.

You don't get to say "these people are bad" and "these people are opposing the bad people so they are good". Arrest the misbehaving bad people and leave the misbehaving good people alone. And in case you missed it, I believe it was noted that 2 marchers were arrested and 5 counter-protesters. It wasn't like the cops were taking sides.

These people got arrested (on both sides). A judge (and jury?) will figure out whether they are guilty and what the consequences are. That's kinda the way it works. Permission from the peanut gallery is worth peanuts.

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I'm saying don't be a bootlicker of authority who automatically assumes anyone who is punished by law enforcement or the judicial system deserves what they get.

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It's really good, you should read it! Talks all about how to tell which laws are just and which aren't.

How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law.

Sometimes a law is just on its face and unjust in its application. For instance, I have been arrested on a charge of parading without a permit. Now, there is nothing wrong in having an ordinance which requires a permit for a parade. But such an ordinance becomes unjust when it is used to maintain segregation and to deny citizens the First-Amendment privilege of peaceful assembly and protest.

https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html

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And learn how to be a civil member of society. Because there is nothing unjust about the laws these people got arrested for. If these people want to argue the laws were unjustly applied or they were not violating the laws- that's what the courts are for and they can have their day in court.

Nobody is talking about denying anyone the privilege of peaceful assembly and protest. They are accused of NOT being peaceful - that's the point, although I know sharp points don't always penetrate dull objects.

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we all remember how incredibly tolerant Americans were toward MLK's civil disobedience.

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We are not talking civil disobedience like sitting quietly at a lunch counter.

we are talking about uncivil disobedience. Again, sharp point meets dull object.

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All disobedience is uncivil in the opinion of many authority figures. Being an old, privileged financi...sorry major leaguer! you seem to be incapable of grasping this. You think you will never be in a situation where you will be poorly treated by authorities and you apparently lack any empathy for people who are not like you and find themselves either by necessity or conscience disobeying.

But keep up with the childish insults, JD. They suit you perfectly!

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You argue that civil disobedience is uncivil disobedience. Let me guess, you know how to make a square circle too!

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Seriously, you’re doubling and tripling down on pure nonsense.

A black person committing the act of “sitting quietly in a diner” in the 1950s American South would be considered uncivil. There are myriad essays, books, documentaries et al. that tell us this.

It is inconceivable to me that you think the attitude you’re displaying is at all different from intolerant whites of that time. You think they didn’t fancy themselves as nice and honorable people?

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U played the race card cuz you got nothing.

And trying to equate MLK, Rosa Parks and the lunch counter protests to antifa is a tad ludicrous.

You need to stop following the knee jerk liberal talking points and take a more objective view. You sound like the liberal version of my Fox News loving conservative friends. Just as extreme, only in the other direction.

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ok buddy

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...where they at least attempt to straighten out both sides of the story. If the police overstepped (especially in this bastion of progressive thought), I trust the courts to do a better job than politicians and the peanut gallery

I’m not sure what you’re doing with that aside. A major theme here is that Massachusetts is not as progressive as its voting record suggests.

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People standing there?

Or cops assaulting people with pepper spray, slamming bicycles into them, attacking first aid people, etc.

The cops LOVE to start riots in this country - especially when their feelings are hurt and they are facing evidence of their rampant corruption.

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It's not unreasonable to call someone a nutjob for thinking that physically pushing back against a troll parade is a smart thing to do. There are better ways to make a difference in politics than jumping into confrontations.

That's true for Charlottesville and for Boston.

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Then the police are nutjobs for attacking, brutalizing, pepper spraying people who were within the areas where they were told to be.

Stop enabling fascists.

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If the BPD endorsed Trump then that gives ammunition to eliminate details. The BPD would sacrifice whatever good will they have by endorsing a man who makes is clear he wants to be a dictator.

Sorry and pity for you Mr. Fish for your willingness to subject yourself to a corrupt authoritarian ruler such as Trump. Maybe in a another life you will learn what it means to be a democratic citizen.

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I say get rid of them I agree. Go to what places like Suffolk County, NY, Conn State police and NYPD does. Forced OT when needed and pension it all.

The City on the other hand saved millions in health insurance co pays and plans which were bargained away by the unions for details and other extra work benefits.

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Call me crazy, but we could do something besides have cops guarding holes (whether on detail or OT) at their exorbitant rates.

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If there is a need for someone to help pedestrians around, do what NYC does and have a separate department run it or make the company hire someone to take care of it.

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People with lower emotional intelligence are more likely to hold right-wing views, suggests new Belgian study (n=983), even after controlling for age, sex, and education level, indicating that deficits in emotion understanding and management may be related to right-wing and prejudiced attitudes.

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I see Fish still has a bad case of Warren derangement syndrome. nice picking out a tweet from 2011. Seems those occupy people had a point by the way. If the BPD want to endorse Trump, let them. But I will side with free speech, occupy Wall Street and antifa forever before I support trump or white supremacist.

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Occupy was even less of an intimidating physical presence than Antifa kids are, that's why the camps all got swept out once the powers that be were sick of the news cycle. they also weren't an anti-fascist group, since, y'know, the sharp uptick in the reemergence of fascism in this country is pretty closely correlated with the rise of a certain few orange nightmare men and their corporate cronies.....

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Who got caught pretending to be antifa and handing out ridiculous flyers, trying to make antifa look bad? They even had a buddy post to Twitter that they had "caught" antifa doing it. This was not an isolated incident, he's been caught doing crap like this before.

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"her own"? Boston police officers and Massachusetts anti-fascists are both Senator Warren's constituents. She doesn't work for or oversee the City of Boston or its police department.

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This makes me wonder if the overpolicing of the counter protesters (there is a myriad of videos on twitter of the police being hyper aggressive without reason, wantonly spraying pepper spray into crowds, riding bikes through areas that were designated for protesters to gather, assaulting people who were administering medical aid, etc.) was a planned objective so the BPPA would have an opportunity to push back against the New policies instituted by Rachael Rollins. The statement by Michael Leary is disgusting.

Also, cash bail is discriminatory against poor people (and disproportionately against minorities) and should be ended.

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The boyos were pumped to be there and when given the nod, more than happy to "clear the area".

The number of officers, the riot gear, it was so over the top that the only reasonable explanation is the BPD was sending message.

In my opinion, Evans would have never let this happen. That new clown with the car dealer smile was nowhere to be found.

Those thin blue line stickers are an ominous harbinger of terrible things to come, folks.

Terrible things.

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Which part, exactly, was disgusting?

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My tax dollars paid for violent attacks on people exercising their first amendment rights.

If you don't think that is disgusting, you need to go back to high school and learn a whole fuckton of history.

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their intent, yes. These guys are professional trolls. They know they're badly outnumbered, so they pick fights they think they can win. The white supremacists marching in Portland came out and admitted that they're just trying to suck up resources from counterprotesters, because counterprotesters have to show up in much larger numbers, or they risk violence against themselves or spectators. In Boston, they planned a parade route that was impossible to secure as thoroughly as the demonstration on the Common two years ago, because they were looking for protesters to do something stupid and give them more ammunition in the ongoing media narrative of "who are the REAL fascists: the self-identified fascists, or antifa?!"

The BPPA is totally complicit with everything the white supremacists are doing, BTW. They're hard-right, they hate Rollins, and they're OK with lefties getting stomped if it helps advance their narrative. We should pay their newsletter about as much mind as we do FISH's concern trolling.

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Amazing, only two of the violent counter protesters arrested were from Boston. Funny, this site usually points out when "out of towners" come into the city and cause problems.

Gotta hand it to the violent counter protesters, they made the bigot Trump marchers look like the good guys in this one. Peaceful, yet disillusion, marchers vs a bunch of violent counter protesters assaulting cops. I'm sure they will fail to see how counterproductive they have become.

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This is only true if you believe that police, here protecting the Straight Pride marchers, should not be held to a higher standard than civilians despite being heavily armed. It was plainly a disproportionate show of violence and the City of Boston should be ashamed. If you are looking for out-of-towners making trouble then you have got them in the police.

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[footage not found]

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ask any cop that was there...

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ask any cop that was there...

Oh. Sure. Just ask 'em. I'm sure they feared for their lives.

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youtube account deleted, no footage.

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look like the good guys"? Ah, no.

They're still a bunch of racist, homophobic neo-Nazis. There's no way to make them look good. The idea that you think they could be made to look good is not a good look for you.

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When one side throws bottles of piss at the cops, it tends to make the point they’re trying to prove irrelevant.

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[footage not found]

there were thousands of people with cameras there so it shouldn't be too hard to produce some evidence of this, were it real

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Sitting on the ground is not assaulting a cop. When captain danilecki "dropped" his pepper spray canister into a crowd then dove in to grab it, is that the protester's fault? When danilecki's unit plowed through protesters standing where they were told to, rather than use the clear, secured area reserved for police, was that the protester's fault too?

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I hadn’t watched any of the videos until now. Interesting how the video evidence invariably contradicts early messaging from reactionaries.

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But the mob demands a fall guy so Jack will be reassigned to a desk somewhere. Local colleges and universities will no longer allow their campus police bicycle units to support the Boston Police and cities and towns such as Somerville will no longer send their officers to support BPD.

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Based on the video, he seems exactly like the cool-headed professional that should be in uniform.

/s/ end

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cops don't do bad things!
but if they do, it's a "few bad apples"
but we can't REMOVE the bad apples
because he's really a good guy deep down
and you, the public, MADE him do it

I swear to god, it's like a society of beaten wives.

all cops are pigs. wanna fight about it? show me one BPD officer advocating for this douchebag's removal.

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A list of the arrested people and their charges show that, in fact, most of the people arrested Saturday were not charged with "committing crimes of assault against Boston Police officers."

Thank you Adam for not just posting their response but also assessing the validity of their response and pointing out how obviously non-factual it is and also citing the evidence used for that determination.

I'm so sick of news organizations who shirk their ability to investigate in favor of just letting both sides have their say even if one of those sides is demonstrably wrong.

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They’re trolls and this was their plan from the very beginning. Everyone who showed up to counter protest just fell into their trap. Deserve every ounce of that pepper spray they got for being foolish.

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Counter protesting is dumb!

Then don't do it. Sit on the sidelines and hope the fascists never come for you.

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unfortunately there is a fine line between not feeding the trolls and sitting idly by while fanatics consolidate power. see 1923 in Munich.

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All the video I saw does indeed make the police look bad.

I'd like to see longer / unedited video of the same people to better guage their behavior. From body cams, bystanders, news, etc.

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Round one was won by the cops who didn't want to be there but did their job.
Round Two was won by the Judges who did their job and sent a message
Round Three will be fought by politicians like Rachael Rollins and Congresswoman Presley who will go toe to toe with politicians like Baker and Walsh who will cry 'No Mas'.
and the round go to Rachael Rollins.
Round Four and winner by knockout Michelle Wu

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Not that I support the fools who organized this, but I was smart enough to ignore them. You kids need to own up to your actions. I don't know why you thought you had a free pass to do whatever you wanted, under the new definition of "right thinking people". We are not here to indulge you as your parents always have. Except for the DA, of course.

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We have a right to show up.

We have a right to be there.

I pay taxes - and I'm very disturbed by the out of control cops attacking people who had a right to be there for no reason other than they are under fire for corruption.

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Sorry but you don't get a day pass to break shit. I know you guys got all giddy to go fight the bad guys and all, but it doesn't work that way.

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Show me links to evidence that something was broken on Saturday.

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No. No you weren't. So you're in no position to say what "you kids" (amusing...wrong but amusing) were "looking" to do.

We are not here to indulge you as your parents always have.

And we are not here to indulge you as you wallow in fact-free bullshit as a means of self-gratification.

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"These officers were screamed at"

Screaming at police officers shouldn't be a criminal offense.

If police officers can't handle being yelled at by people who think they suck at their jobs I guess they should get jobs in retail, or as school teachers....

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They get yelled at plenty, they just can't arrest their antagonists.

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...shoot pepper spray in their faces and smash them with batons.

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Thanks for making my point, Pete X :-)

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The judge Richard Sinnott is a Republican hack. He and his wife were appointed by Charlie Baker to the same court. They donate to Republicans. Sinnott's father was the last censor in the city of Boston. So, it's no surprise Dick wouldn't be lenient on the people protesting the invasion of Boston by Trump-loving bigots.

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SO MUCH THIS.

For those who enjoy primary source material, here's the elder Mr. Sinnott's obituary from the New York Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/03/us/r-j-sinnott-76-last-wielder-of-ban...

I've also seen screenshots of donor data from the 2004 presidential election showing that Sinnott donated to "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth." The guy is a real peach.

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Antifa actually stands for "Anti First Amendment".

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I think it stands for "Assault Rifle"

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I know what I saw
I know who I saw
I know what my pictures saw too

Not sure I want to air my opinions considering this thread but...

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