11 p.m. would be a better closing time for the restaurant, at least for the first year of operation, so the neighborhood could see if it would prove a good neighbor.
So are "bad neighbor" restaurants all right if they close at 11? This is such obvious bullshit that's got nothing to do with neighborliness and everything to do with kissing the licensing board's ass.
So are "bad neighbor" restaurants all right if they close at 11?
No...I think the point is, if the restaurant has a closing time of 11 pm, and proves to be a not-good neighbor, the impact on the neighborhood is at least mitigated somewhat by an 11 pm closing time. If the restaurant won't manage its refuse at 11 pm, they're not gonna do it at 2 am.
If the new licensee has problems, the problems need to be dealt with swiftly via existing mechanisms, regardless of whether the closing time is at 11:00 or 2:00. Treating the first year of the license as a "learner's permit" is insulting and demeaning to the restaurant owners and directly affects their ability to turn a profit and establish their business. It's bullshit that serves no purpose except to remind the restaurant owners who's in charge.
If you are a shitty licensed neighbor at 11PM, that's still a problem that should be addressable, the same way there should be adequate recourse against shitty licensed neighbors at 2AM.
Exactly. The two have no relationship. Also, isn't this a brand-new district dedicated to businesses, hotels and entertainment? Exactly where the fuck else would it be appropriate to open a new late-night eatery? People who move into the neighborhood aren't expecting to live in Mayberry.
…. built with luxury perks such as triple paned windows, roof decks, balconies, plus size living spaces. This is not a low income neighborhood with ancient housing stock and no waterfront like Chinatown, which still bears unhealed wounds from the Combat Zone.
Everyone in the city has the right to quiet enjoyment of their home, but I don’t see how the Seaport residents have been threatened in this way by a late night eatery. They don’t mind tearing through Chinatown in their SUVs on their way downtown or for larks. Or having their food delivery drivers clog up the Washington St. bus lanes and bike lanes so they can get their grub.
This was a planned community, with more or less foresight.
Seems like a case of I got mine so nobody else can have theirs. Hey, they’ve got a Trader Joe’s. And easy access to their noisy boats. Need I say more?
Tom Ready of the Fort Point Neighborhood Association, however, said 11 p.m. would be a better closing time for the restaurant, at least for the first year of operation, so the neighborhood could see if it would prove a good neighbor.
This is such a consistently NIMBY group. They should be paid no heed.
There is way too much power in this neighborhood association if their opinion has even an iota of effect on the decision here.
Opening up every single permit application to the whims of a few loud mouthed a-holes is a surefire way to hamstring small businesses and subject them to arbitrary classist, racist, and xenophobic restrictions.
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The Seaport
Is the biggest choke job in the history of urban development.
"Urban Development" implies that there was planning involved.
Or perhaps even a modicum of forethought.
The seaport wants to be a
The seaport wants to be a gated community so bad
Comforting?
I guess that it’s comforting that the seaport, “everyone’s” most hated neighborhood, is just like every other Boston neighborhood! Welcome!
This is such obvious bullshit
So are "bad neighbor" restaurants all right if they close at 11? This is such obvious bullshit that's got nothing to do with neighborliness and everything to do with kissing the licensing board's ass.
No...
No...I think the point is, if the restaurant has a closing time of 11 pm, and proves to be a not-good neighbor, the impact on the neighborhood is at least mitigated somewhat by an 11 pm closing time. If the restaurant won't manage its refuse at 11 pm, they're not gonna do it at 2 am.
Hahaha!
Don’t go hoisting yourself on your own petard, old wound.
Good luck...
...balancing those meds.
Your comeback is a bit of a let down.
But thanks for trying.
You’ll have other chances.
I mean...
...at least mine made sense. Yours was just word salad, pure gibberish. But you believe what you want.
I know your memory is selective.
I’ll leave you with this last word.
Quack.
If the new licensee has
If the new licensee has problems, the problems need to be dealt with swiftly via existing mechanisms, regardless of whether the closing time is at 11:00 or 2:00. Treating the first year of the license as a "learner's permit" is insulting and demeaning to the restaurant owners and directly affects their ability to turn a profit and establish their business. It's bullshit that serves no purpose except to remind the restaurant owners who's in charge.
Exactly.
Particularly when other businesses in the area have later closing times.
The Seaport’s battle not to be a late night entertainment zone has already been lost. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Are licenses not conditional?
If you are a shitty licensed neighbor at 11PM, that's still a problem that should be addressable, the same way there should be adequate recourse against shitty licensed neighbors at 2AM.
Exactly. The two have no
Exactly. The two have no relationship. Also, isn't this a brand-new district dedicated to businesses, hotels and entertainment? Exactly where the fuck else would it be appropriate to open a new late-night eatery? People who move into the neighborhood aren't expecting to live in Mayberry.
They are also moving into a brand new neighborhood…
…. built with luxury perks such as triple paned windows, roof decks, balconies, plus size living spaces. This is not a low income neighborhood with ancient housing stock and no waterfront like Chinatown, which still bears unhealed wounds from the Combat Zone.
Everyone in the city has the right to quiet enjoyment of their home, but I don’t see how the Seaport residents have been threatened in this way by a late night eatery. They don’t mind tearing through Chinatown in their SUVs on their way downtown or for larks. Or having their food delivery drivers clog up the Washington St. bus lanes and bike lanes so they can get their grub.
This was a planned community, with more or less foresight.
Seems like a case of I got mine so nobody else can have theirs. Hey, they’ve got a Trader Joe’s. And easy access to their noisy boats. Need I say more?
Tom Ready of the Fort Point
This is such a consistently NIMBY group. They should be paid no heed.
A neighborhood association having so much power is absurd.
There is way too much power in this neighborhood association if their opinion has even an iota of effect on the decision here.
Opening up every single permit application to the whims of a few loud mouthed a-holes is a surefire way to hamstring small businesses and subject them to arbitrary classist, racist, and xenophobic restrictions.
This is why we can't have nice things.
I too..
I too oppose an 12:30 am closing time.
Let them stay open until 2 am instead.
As a resident of the neighborhood, I agree
Like the rest of Boston, there are not enough late-night dining options in the area.
Whatever
They’ll all be underwater soon.