Gang rode the Red and Green lines with a crowbar at rush hour, robbing and beating people, police say
Transit Police report arresting three of the four people they say got on the Red Line at Harvard with a crowbar, then used it to threaten people they beat and robbed on a trip that ended at the Fenway Green Line stop, where they got off a trolley and smashed the crowbar into a person's face before running towards Brookline Thursday afternoon.
Police say they found Parrish Jones, 25, of Dorchester, William Windham, 21, of Brockton and a Dorchester teen too young to have her name released, after an "exhaustive area search." The hunt for the fourth person continues, police say.
Police provided this account of what happened after they responded to Park Street around 5 p.m. on a report of somebody having been attacked and robbed on a Red Line train at Harvard:
The offending group continued to travel to Kenmore Station from Park St where they attacked and robbed another victim while on board a Green Line Trolley. The group allegedly were also threatening several commuters on board the trolley with violence. The marauding group continued to travel to Fenway where they robbed and beat another victim, on the platform, with a crowbar causing facial injuries to the victim. After this assault and robbery the group fled onto the right of way heading in the direction of Brookline.
All three were charged with assault and battery with a dangerous weapon causing bodily injury, assault and battery and armed robbery, police say.
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And the MBTA has its very own police force?
How the hell does an armed gang start marauding at Harvard, ride four stops to Park Street, switch platforms and trains, ride six more stops to Fenway, then escape on foot into Brookline? This is an absolute outrage.
These punks are gonna be
These punks are gonna be sorry they interrupted the transit police afternoon nap time.
It's Getting Old
I think it’s pretty funny
(Would you rather a joke about brandishing a gun at motorists while off duty, lying in police reports or overtime fraud? ‘Cause the transit cops do all that too.)
think of the poor, poor police?
You’re such a brave one.
“First they came for the police, and I didn’t speak up, because I’m not police, and it would be a reduction to absurdity to call the police”
I think everyone is aware that I'm usually the first one to call out Kinopio's numerous boorish comments, but he's got I point with this one. If riders aren't safe at rush hour, if there couldn't have been a response between Harvard and Park, it's fair to ponder where the Transit Police were napping at the time.
I've seen the T stop trains to get police into position to arrest someone. Didn't happen with this crew.
Like someone from a nice cushy part of the world who has never been in harm’s way. There’s a number of empty bike lanes out there that need your attention.
They were able to ride the
They were able to ride the red line to Park Street, then transfer to the D-line and ride it all the way out to Fenway without getting caught...during rush hour?!? That ride must've taken at least 40 minutes! This should be extremely embarrassing to both MBTA & Transit Police.
FYI, everyone should get the MBTA See Say app on their phones. It allows you to quietly report (& take pics) of anything inappropriate happening on MBTA. I can't vouch for the response time and it's sad we apparently need it...but good to have.
Thank you for that.
Had never heard of that app before, but just installed it. Not sure the MBTA has done a very good job promoting it
The T has a lot of problems attracting ridership
The green line Goblins robbing and beating passengers won't help. The term TERROR TRAINS does not inspire confidence in an already unsafe system.
What the actual fuck people? DURING RUSH HOUR?!?
What has gotten into people lately? A friend of mine was punched on the T a few months ago by some fine urban youth looking for trouble. He did nothing to proke the attack either.
This seems to be happening more and more. And not just on the T. Its everywhere now.
I've been riding the T for 25 years and only until recently have I felt unsafe riding after certain hours. Nice to know this will be extended into rush hour times now.
And yeah.. where was TPD on this. They were able to go thru a major transportation hub at rush hour and no one noticed the crowbar?
For those of us who remember Bernie Goetz...
...it's deja vu, scary and sad. It's only a matter of time before it happens again. Incident like this are the most effective recruitment tool for MAGAts
I had to look him up
OMG. Yeah I totally could see this happening again. Temperatures are high on these people and it wouldn't take much to get them to pop like this.
Wikipedia has a long write up about this guy. Interesting read
That was 38 years ago?
I am getting old. It was a Beastie Boys lyric five years later.
I have noticed South Station is getting a wee randy. I was harassed at 8:10 yesterday morning for change by someone who could not have been more than 25. After a very polite but stern "FUCK OFF" from me before he started freaking out because someone wasn't nice to him.
One Amtrak officer on the platform chatting away and a 8 1/2 X 11 piece of paper posted by CVS saying "You Behave Or We Will Throw Away The Key" isn't having much effect on the Guardian Angels era NYC T.
Yes, I have noticed the same thing when I travel through there for the commuter rail. Definite uptick of panhandlers. Being there at night is a bit sketchy.
You're confused why somebody
You're confused why somebody got mad at you for telling them to fuck off? What is wrong with you?
I Am Not Confused At All.
Actually, it was fun.
Piss off asking me for money for your habit first thing in the morning.
How would you like it if I went up to you and started harassing you at South Station for your money so I could buy Sox tickets or pay my kids tuition?
One of the four people mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire" that's still alive (Chubby Checker, Bob Dylan, Brigitte Bardot). This is what lives in my brain instead of information that could make me any money...
Surprised that Chubby is still living
Fun Fact: Did you know that his stage name is word-play on the earlier singer Fats Domino?
There was also a guy who took
There was also a guy who took it one step further and called himself Tubby Chess.
What is the temperature
In the neighborhoods that consistently experience shootings on a weekly basis?
If you get shot using a crowbar to injure and rob people, that’s on you. You deserve zero defense from the law. A crowbar can easily be used as a deadly weapon and one does not have to swing it that hard to kill another person, regardless of intent.
Let's start shooting guns on crowded trains.
Urban cosplay cowboy worships guns, but don't know shit about them.
What’s your solution?
I’m not saying people should just start shooting up crowded trains at the first sign of a problem. However, if a person is beating someone with a crowbar, continues going after others with what can easily be used as a deadly weapon, and then gets shot by a person looking to prevent a possible murder, well, great. That person saved others from injury or death by a psychopath and is a hero. I’m pretty sure if someone was beating a friend or family member or even a stranger sitting next to you with a crowbar, you’d be thankful that someone else was there to stop them, regardless of how they did it.
and remember his cultural inspiration, Death Wish, 48 years ago
The score by Herbie Hancock is great
The actor who played one of the subway muggers, John Herzfeld, had a successful writing and directing career.
The movie was called fascist, like Dirty Harry. Reflected a big run-up in crime in that era.
"where was TPD on this"
Where is the TPD any day, any line, any time? I don't know. On my Red Line trips I see BPD presence approximately zero percent of the time.
I only go into the office 3
I only go into the office 3 days per week now but take the T from Ashmont to South Station. Rush hour on certain days like Monday and Friday are very far from their pre-covid highs for ridership. Even the busier days aren't very busy at rush hour. So trains and even places like South Station, are relatively empty which gives an opening for animals like this crew.
I've taken the T for close to 40 years and this is the first time I can recall being concerned for my safety on a regular basis. I totally get why more people are driving and paying crazy rates to park given my experience on the T but I'm not ready to make the switch at the moment.
Made the switch
Also an Ashmont line rider for years with no problems and being attacked twice the past two years was enough to push me towards driving. We Transit Police ON TRANSIT.
So, none of the bystanders
So, none of the bystanders had cell phones?
That Kitty Genovese story is famously bad journalism
I mean it's in the third paragraph of the wikipedia page:
More likely in this MBTA case that many people called the police and they didn't arrive promptly.
Now, this is something that
Now, this is something that distinguishes Boston from London.
London has a major violent crime problem
Most don't involve shootings (guns aren't difficult to get on the streets). Random assaults, robberies, muggings are common.
Pull the emergency brake at the next station?
I think it might be a justifiable action if I saw this going on.
MBTA management is a joke.