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Google set to extend tendrils into Boston:

Job listings for the Boston area and a reputed search for suitable facilities in the city add up to a forthcoming Beantown presence for the search advertising company. ...

Via Skadz.

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"To date they have largely left the middle of the country out of their plans, Chicago being the closest city to the traditional Midwest where they have operations.

If they do move into the Midwest, we think Cincinnati could be a candidate."

Uh...Chicago is smack dab in the Midwest, as far as I'm concerned. Cincinnati is in the East.

(This does, of course, tie into the "nobody wants to claim Ohio" issue.)

But if they want more Midwestern than Chicago, I'd have to suggest Des Moines or possibly Omaha.

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As the spouse of an Illini, let me tell you there are people west of the Quad Cities who will claim that Illinois is the east. Not to her face, mind you ...

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The Sunday magazine of the Chicago Sun-Times was called Midwest. (Maybe it still is, for all I know.)

Growing up in Columbus, I always thought of the Midwest at starting in Ohio and ending around Wisconsin.

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My Hoosier upbringings saw the same thing... the Midwest was Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and maybe Wisconsin but certainly not any of those plain-y states. And Kentucky was definitely the beginning of the South.

Of course, I was also taught to say KONNNN-KORD as the capital of New Hampshire.

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Oh, the Midwest most certainly includes Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Missouri and Kansas on the left side of the Mississippi.

Illinois is also entirely Midwestern as far as I'm concerned, although it does border Kentucky at the southern tip. Long state.

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Just so I can say I've been to KAY-ro (Our own BER-lin having been driven through years ago). For some reason, the wife and kid refuse to let me keep heading south on 57 on our Christmastime trips to Kankakee.

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Kankakee is fun to say.

There's also MI-lan, MAD-rid and jolly-ET, if you want to do the grand tour of the Land of Lincoln.

I seem to recall there being a ver-SAILS as well.

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Endless hours of fun discussing whether it's

Burr-bone-iss
or
Bore-bow-nay

But as somebody who lives in a state with BER-lin, Wuhstuh and Lemon-stuh, I guess I shouldn't talk.

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"A Missourian gets used to Southerners thinking him a Yankee, a Northerner considering him a cracker, a Westerner sneering at his effete Easternness, and the Easterner taking him for a cowhand." - William Least Heat Moon

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Growing up in the Northwest, the Midwest didn't even start until Illinois, and ran all the way to the mountain states (Wyoming, Montana, etc.). Sorry, but Nebraska is NOT anywhere near the West coast!

Ohio, Indiana, and Michegan were part of the Industrial East, aka "the rust belt", along with Pennsylvania and upstate New York. Ohio is scarcely 500 miles east of the Atlantic Ocean, and the country is approximately 2,500 miles wide. That hardly merits the appelation of "west" in any way I can think of.

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Yeah, sure, Ohio was settled by Bostonians, but no, the Northeast stops somewhere between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

Also, Ohio is the original Northwest.

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Anyone from Ohio will tell you that Ohio is part of the Midwest (and that Pittsburgh is not). The term dates from a period when the US didn't go as far west as it does now.

Remember that the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 is responsible for non-native settlement of Ohio, and the extension of US sovereignty into that area.

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Cleveland is proud of being on the north coast. *snarf*

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Chicago is definitely Midwestern. Cultural geographers will tell you that people's sense of what the Midwest is centered in Kansas, but I'm not buying it. Ohio is the old Northwest or the Western reserve and as an Iowan, I don't consider Ohio Midwestern at all. Sorry Ron.

Missouri, a former slave state, is not Midwestern, at least culturally. The differences between Iowa and Missouri are noticeable as soon as you cross the border. To my mind, the Midwest ends somewhere around the 100th parallel.

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I guess I associate Missouri as Midwest because I grew up about equidistant from Missouri and Chicago, and we never went further into Missouri than St. Louis.

I don't consider Wyoming and Montana to be the Midwest; they're just plain West to me.

Iowa, very definitely Midwest.

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Where people say "warsh"?

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NO.

I mean, many do, yes. I don't.

I do, however, aspirate my "wh"s, which causes no end of amusement in the Mollyandeeka household.

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And as a Nooyawka, I don't aspirate my Hs (ooh, look, it's the Good Yuma man!), which causes no end of amusement chez Gaffin.

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"I stayed at an hotel" ?

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I stayed at a motel. Duh!

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I thought a parallel was a latitude line, and they don't go up to 100 (not in degrees, anyway).

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It isn't a parallel - it is a meridian in longitude.

As the Tragically Hip sing:

At the 100th meridian, where the Great Plains begin

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...and I can't thank you enough. I love that freakin' song.

"lower me slowly and sadly and properly, and get Ry Cooder to sing my eulogy"

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Thanks SwirlyGrrl. I hadn't had my coffee yet. The 100th meridian is important because it roughly marks the line where less than 20 inches of rain falls on average in a year, making agriculture without irrigation a difficult proposition. One need only think of the Dust Bowl of the 1930s.

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