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RCN vs. Comcast?

My promotional deal with Comcast just expired and my bill jumped by a HUGE amount. My place is both Comcast- and RCN-ready, but before I switch to RCN, has anybody made the change? I'm just looking for HD/DVR TV, maybe HBO, plus high-speed internet services. Any thoughts/experiences/warnings would be most appreciated!

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The Internet just works. Yay! There have been a couple times when it went out, but nothing prolonged. Basic cable stuff is, well, basic, not really different from what you'd expect on Comcast (except the channel numbers for cable networks are mostly different). The on-demand menu system is a bit clunkier than Comcast's. We don't use their DVR service, so can't comment on that.

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What's customer service like? I have friends in Somerville and Watertown who say the customer service blows (esp Billing)..

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Never had a billing issue, so can't speak to that, but their technical support has always been decent - and they seem to answer their phones quickly.

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Is much better. Comcast left me in the lurch several times.

I also had a situation where my roommate was moving and I wanted to just switch the account into my name with his approval. No dice said Comcast. I thought then maybe I could start a new account in my name and keep the equipment. No, said Comcast. Ok, maybe then I could just drop of his old equipment and then pick up the new equipment at the Comcast office? Can't do that either said Comcast. Ok, then I can pick up at a later date? No, it has to be sent to you by UPS. OK, at least I don't have to wait for a tech to set up what I can do myself...wait it's 45 dollars for them to send my equipment to me? Ok, I've had enough. Called RCN and they agreed to install next day. At least the tech at RCN worked for his money and made sure everything was set up before he left.

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I've had a few billing issues (actually half my fault) with RCN, and they were quite helpful every time. I also had a technical issue once, and they were courteous and prompt then too.

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We switched, in Watertown, about three years ago. Customer service from RCN beats Comcast by a mile.

We have had almost no complaints concerning service. Our needs are basic - internet, cable, land-line phone.

Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com

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And to be honest i thought the switch to RCN woukdnt even compare to huge bill no no mo comcast because well why pay all this money If you can get internet cable and phone. In other words no high expectations. Which was just the opposite and I shoulda known and not have eaten that hater pudding messages they flooded my increasly wetter mind. Hello no mo monopolies duh.
My low expectations were brought to a TIVO LAND. Hello! I mean all the same yaya for nada huh??????????PLUS MORE LIKE , hmmmm TIVO LAND record fast forward you get the idea everything for when ur out working to pay for it when it hits the air. Sao #TIVO IT #RCN IT COMCAST TO RCN YESTERDAY . THE internet never worked better here ( only draw is the xfinity WiFi But who needs it when I'm saving all this Mula$$$$$$ and to topper off all the customer support staff is US based hence ENGLISH is my first language PA. This is by far a game changer and what RCNS market campaign should explore as numero1

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try calling Comcast and renegotiating your bill. I've gotten $15-$20/month knocked off my bill several times just by doing that.

What I do is I research all the new customer options Comcast is offering, then what the competition is offering, and then I make a list of all the things Comcast is doing wrong (slowdowns, outages, etc.) and tell them they're charging too much and I'm going to switch to Competitor. They put you through to Customer Retention, who can usually give you a decent discount.

That said, every time I've done that I lived in a Comcast-exclusive building where I had no choice but to switch. Given the choice, I would have switched.

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It works better if you actually submit the cancellation order to Comcast, scheduled for about a week out. They'll call you and offer a better deal if you've already decided to cancel than if you merely threaten to cancel.

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Customer retention can't always match the better deal. They'll try to keep you but they aren't miracle workers.

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I stayed with Comcast because they were able to match the RCN new-customer promo (for one year), and I made it clear that this was the only reason I was staying.

Even then, my bill didn't reflect the agreement we made for ~3 months, so I had to make ~3 calls to customer service to actually get them to apply this discount.

Switching companies may actually be LESS of a hassle than staying.

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Comcast is basically the devil. I only have RCN for internet, but its better than Comcast (and even Comcast Business Class) in every respect -- price, service, reliability, speed.

Also, people still watch TV? You don't just use Netflix, or Prime Instant Video, or something? I can't imagine it. I haven't seen a commercial in years.

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Once out becomes cheap enough to watch both online I'll cut the cord

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With RCN, we Tivo most shows we wish to watch. View and fast-forward through commercials. With live sporting events, I'll usually pause the broadcast (which you can do for about 30 minutes) and let time build up while I take care of other business. Then, when I'm ready, I can fast-forward through those ads, too, while still coming to the completion of the event at about the same time as live.

Suldog
http://jimsuldog.blogspot.com

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My bf and I switched from Verizon to RCN a few months ago after Verizon's dispute with Fox 25. We looked at Comcast but we have a Tivo and they said we had to use their DVR system rather than using the Tivo with an added cable card like we had been doing with Verizon. RCN had lower rates than both and we got to keep our Tivo so it was a no brainer. We have a basic HD package plus HBO, and high speed internet; no issues w/ our service so far!

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That's a load of crap.. until last year I was a big TiVo user (I had three at one point), Comcast does support CableCard, they just don't care about you as a user. You just need go to the local office and pick them up (its just easier).

However, speaking of TiVo.. I think RCN offers a RCN-Branded TiVo as a dvr also. (since the OP was looking for a dvr also)

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I switched to RCN over three years ago and haven't missed Comcast. But, the RCN deal has gotten worse with time so after 3 years when they upped my bill to $95/month I just said screw it and canceled TV service.

We looked at Comcast but we have a Tivo and they said we had to use their DVR system rather than using the Tivo with an added cable card like we had been doing with Verizon.

That's illegal for Comcast to say. Cable companies must offer you the option of using the Cablecard. It's a Federal law passed in 2006. I've made extensive use of the Cablecard option, hooking it up to my computer so that I do not have to buy a Tivo or a separate DVR device.

RCN actually uses Tivo as their DVR option, so they would have just sent you one anyway. By hooking it up to my computer instead I saved another $20/month or so.

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So it wasn't that we couldn't use the Tivo at all--sorry, just asked the bf. We were told we must have a Comcast device in the house and we couldn't just use the cable card in the Tivo, which we had done. So we would've had the Tivo and a Comcast box, which you have to pay a monthly fee on, so we decided to go with RCN instead since they do not require a separate box.

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The FCC rule is very specific that Comcast must give you a discount for choosing a CableCard instead of carrier-owned equipment, even with packaged deals. If Comcast refuses, you submit a complaint to FCC.GOV. Within a few months, the complaint will find its way to Comcast's legal department and they'll call you to concede. I've gone through that process myself.

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I've wanted to get away from them for years but where I live has no alternative aside from satellite. But every year or so when my promotional deal runs out I call them and they usually have a new deal that may not include everything I want or already have but I end up saving some money. And sometimes you just have to cut back on what you have to save money if their promos don't fit your needs. Plus you can always play the "I'll go to RCN if youse louses don't give me a deal" card. On a positive note, however, I have had good luck with any customer service issues concerning Comcast so that could be a factor as well. When the hell are these companies going to allow us to have an "a la carte" option where we pay for only what we watch?

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Use Google Chrome and download the AdBlocker Plus extension. There are hundreds of sites like http://www.solarmovie.is/ that offer free HD movies, HBO Series and all of the Netflix Originals for free. Most laptops have HDMI inputs which allows you to stream directly to your TV.

Your not directly downloading any data like a bittorrent so its impossible to get in trouble. Its basically like watching a video on YouTube.

You're Welcome!

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I have been doing just internet for years. Only $55 a month. If you want, you can subscribe to HBOGO and HULU to get your TV stations. Also ESPN will let you subscribe to just them too. Netflix, iTunes Movies, AmazonPrime... there are a lot of options. I say cut the cord and watch what you really want on the internet. If you absolutely have to have your TV then do what someone else said and threaten to leave. They will definitely give you a deal.

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I'll play the part of the unhelpful, stupid jerk who recommends cutting cable. I decided to cut cable a while ago when I used a power usage monitor to find that my cablebox was using something like 50 watts just sitting there. Turns out I don't miss cable at all even though I used to watch TV a fair amount. Most things can be watched online. I switched to an internet-only system (FIOS) and I've been pretty happy ever since. Granted, you don't save all that much with internet-only over internet+cable but anything I can do to give Comcast/RCN/Verizon/etc less money is nice.

So my advice to others facing a huge cable bill is to cancel it for a month or so and see if you really miss it. Spend the money on other entrainment and internet streaming.

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...I've thought about it! I've got Amazon Prime for binge watching and catching up on old series (currently immersed in "The Shield," which is great!). I guess HBO is doing an a-la-carte thing later this year. But I'd miss my Rachel Maddow and live MSNBC, and stuff like ocassional CNN and BBC America if I cut cable entirely. But I'm getting closer and closer to making that decision -- maybe after a year of RCN, just when THEY'LL be ready to bump up my promo rate.

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...I've thought about it! I've got Amazon Prime for binge watching and catching up on old series (currently immersed in "The Shield," which is great!). I guess HBO is doing an a-la-carte thing later this year. But I'd miss my Rachel Maddow and live MSNBC, and stuff like ocassional CNN and BBC America if I cut cable entirely. But I'm getting closer and closer to making that decision -- maybe after a year of RCN, just when THEY'LL be ready to bump up my promo rate.

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your lucky you have a choice (which is the way it is supposed to be). I'm in a part of Boston that can only get Comcast. I want to get rid of cable bc the cost is ridiculous but the hubby has to have his sports.

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I had RCN when I lived in South Boston and it was less expensive and more reliable than comcast. Now, I have RCN in my office in Allston (for internet only), and it's fast, reliable and always the speed I pay for. In contrast, at home I have Comcast where I'm paying for 20mpbs and am lucky to get 3-5 on a good day. Comcast has also wired up my office building, and the tenants who have chosen them are constantly complaining about lousy service. In contrast, I just got an email from RCN offering me 15mbps faster download speeds for $40/month LESS than I've been paying for the past couple years. Out of the blue. They offered it to me. When was the last time Comcast offered you a lower rate unsolicited?

RCNs customer service is miles ahead of Comcast (not hard to do when Comcast gets some of the lowest customer service ratings across all types of businesses).

If we could get RCN at my house, even if it was more expensive, I'd get it - Comcast is the *worst* and it pains me to give them as much money as I do every month, for internet-only access, but in JP they're the only viable option for high speed internet.

I also recommend cutting out cable tv. In boston you can get 40+ high quality over the air channels using a cheap antenna (ours is mounted to the rafters in our attic, but it could be outside as well), and that'll work with a TiVO. Combine that with Netflix, Amazon and maybe SlingTV if you have a Roku, and you're paying way less for tv than cable (even if you have to occasionally purchase a season of a show, it's a better deal).

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The building we just moved into is only wired for RCN. Can't stand Comcast but RCN makes me miss them. How's that for suckage? If you switch get everything settled fast. RCN actually says things like "well, that whole kind of thing is just for new customers. After 30 days you're just a customer."

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Where around North American is Internet available through the same line as electric power?... through the same wall outlet !

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Radio shack used to sell a gizmo that would do that. I think it was made by GE. You'd still need a provider but you didn't need to run cat 5 through the walls. At the time it was probably a little faster than wireless and about $50 a node. There were limitations. Electrical noise and you had to be on the same phase, but if you had a clue, you could get it working.

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...but I adore RCN. Their service people and technicians are really good and communicate well. The troubleshooter you talk to on the phone will actually know what they're talking about, instead of just reading from a binder. They're responsive. They're like the anti-Verizon: if every interaction you have with Verizon is unpleasant and unhelpful, every interaction with RCN is great.

As far as I can tell their television signal is much better looking than what I see when I go to friends' houses and see their Comcast signals. My deal with RCN has a Tivo built right in to the cable box.

I did have a couple of television outages over last summer, but they didn't last more than a few hours. The internet has been rock solid.

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No problems.

I don't know about their cable.

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It has always ticked me off that the reward for paying your $155 per month bill on time with Comcast is that each year you have to threaten to fire their company so you can avoid having your bill increase by an exponential amount. Why make each good customer go through the cancellation charade?

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We saved about $75/mo for expanded cable, 3 HD boxes internet and HBO (granted this was when RCN had a nice promo a few months back). Plus RCN has Tivo which is huge. Such an improvement over the standard comcast DVR offering. I have zero regrets switching over. Wish I did it earlier.

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I've had both.
Everything about RCN is better than Comcast.

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The Comcast price drove me to RCN. Problems with picture quality that could not be fixed (the screen would pixilate) pushed me back to Comcast. Overall, I am happy with Comcast customer service, although sometimes there are wait times that are a bit long. RCN was awful. I asked once where the person was that I was speaking with, and she told me the Philippines.

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I've had Comcast's intro rate for over 3 years now. When it expired and my bill shot up, I did the following:

- Call their cancellation number
- Told them I didn't like how much my bill had shot up to.

Their response: "well, what would you be comfortable paying?"

Me: the intro rate was nice.

Boom. Rate locked in. I've even moved since, and it hasn't ever climbed back up. Give it a shot.

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I would love to get RCN rather than Comcast, if it were available in my neighborhood. I use RCN internet at one of my jobs, and it is comparable to Comcast in speed. It is also a lot cheaper, but that is comparing a business account to a personal account. I don't know how your comparison will be.

I recently cancelled our Comcast TV service as the price became stupid high. We kept it (too long) for HBO. They gave us a headache with our cancellation I won't rehash here, but both my partner & I had to waste hours on the phone between the two of us, getting months taken off our bill we were charged for after our cancellation, and waiting twice for someone to pick up the box who did not show.

On the plus side, we do still have the cable box, if you want it!

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Had RCN internet for over 7 years, would never ever go with Comcast. They're either #1 or #2 most hated company in the US.

Never had an outage with RCN until last year, but they never lasted long. Customer service nice to deal with. A little sour over price increases - they keep bumping up the speed - and the price. But I did chat with them and negotiated another discount for 3 years. ESPN3 access is nice too. Don't know about cable.

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So, I called them up. No wait.

Me: "Do you guys have reports of any outages in Arlington around [address] "?
Them: (after looking it up) "Yes, we do. We're working on it."
Me: "Any estimate on when it will be back up?"
Them: "Not yet ... "
Me: "OK, thanks" (decide to wait a few hours, do so, it's back then)

Basically, "we're professionals here. No bullshit." I suspect I could have had an explanation of what they thought was causing the outage if I really had wanted it.

Now, I prefer that to the "have you checked all the lights on your modem" and "let's go to the Windows control panel" script I get from , ahem, other providers ...

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We were one of the first buildings to be wired for RCN. Comcast tried to stop it saying they had an easement and owned the wiring in our building. But, they couldn't prove it. I switched immediately and never looked back. I've always been pleased with the communication and service. Although I've seldom needed it.

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I decided to go with RCN. Scheduled installation for this coming Saturday, and once I'm up and running with them I'll cancel with Comcast. I've heard the horror stories about the Comcast cancellation process, but hopefully it'll go smoothly. If not, I know I can turn to you guys for advice and/or commiseration.

Thanks again!

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Piling on, but I count myself lucky that I live on an RCN-served street in Roslindale. Their basic broadband package is cheap, very reliable, and customer service seems dependable. Miles away from what we had with Comcast.

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Never had cable before RCN, but the internet link is infinitely better than Verizon's was. Very good perople to deal with so far.

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How do you get to a human representative at Comcast... bypass the recorded announcements and menus when telephoning?

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If you get Fios don't let the copper wires be removed so it's always possible to go back again to that technology. Instruct verizon not to remove wiring, not to remove connector hardware and keep an eye on the installer, don't let the installer out of your sight !

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... support for copper wiring as fast as it can manage to do so. The aren't even fully maintaining what is in place.

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Don't make this false choice! I fired Comcast years ago and have been with DirecTV since 2003. They are beyond fabulous, with extraordinary customer service, competitive pricing, and because I'm such a longtime customer they always gave me something whenever I called with a question. I just can't say enough good about them, and there's nothing in the world that would make me want to switch.

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Isn't it crappy old Verizon?

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I think some customers bundle their Verizon internet/TV, and thus are getting DirecTV. In my case, I get my internet from my local, community owned utility company so I pay a lot less. When I lived in Cambridge I had DirecTV and Verizon internet, but not bundled.

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I've had them for 3+ yrs and my internet-only bill is like $60. It kinda feels like I'm paying more than I should, but I haven't had any problems with them, so I really don't have the motivation to call and complain :/

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I pay about $130-140 for 110 Mb/s internet, TV, and four TiVos. If NESN streamed I'd ditch the TV portion. Also RCN doesn't have any data caps like Comcast.

I'm also happy with RCN. I won't move into a place where comcast is the only option.

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(the probation period is over).

Could be a lot worse.

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Hi, I was involved with a project looking at how to bring more internet options to Boston. It made me think about how Google Fiber approaches it in those cities (Kansas City, Austin, etc.) where they basically ask customers who want the service and then expand the service to those streets first.

There is a Boston-based service called Netblazr ( http://netblazr.com ) that is a mesh network, where they relay internet signals from buildings four stories or higher across the city. Many Boston neighborhoods already have this option. I'm in JP and they are working on expanding here, but all neighborhoods south of JP won't have the service until it reaches JP.

I set up a Google Map where people can put an anonymous marker if you want to have more internet options at your home or place of business. You can find the map at http://bit.ly/bostoninternet

Adding a marker is easy: go to navigation on top of page, select "add a marker," and click on your residence or place of business. No personal information is shared, but you can add a comment if you would like.

This started in JP (hence the density of markers there), but I've opened it up to all of Boston (and Cambridge/Somerville, too, both of which have limited choice).

Please feel free to share with friends, neighbors (post a note in http://nextdoor.com if you're a user), and family members who would like more choice.

If we have this data, I will submit to the Office of Telecommunications and Cable with the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to show that there is demand for RCN to offer services beyond their existing streets.

I've spoken with people at both Netblzr and RCN about expanding service and have shared this map with them. Netblazr said they have expansion plans in the works for 2015.RCN serves some streets, but not all. It's basically given limited territory so that Comcast is not seen as a monopoly, but the reality is that most people cannot get RCN and, as noted above, many would like that option.

A few articles about the project's launch over the last few months in JP for additional background:

Jamaica Plain News:
http://www.jamaicaplainnews.com/2014/11/want-more-internet-options-in-jp

Jamaica Plain Gazette:
http://jamaicaplaingazette.com/2015/01/16/jp-resident-launches-internet-...

Only way to expand service is for these companies to see there is demand, so place a marker! Only takes 5 seconds to do!

Charlie

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I've tried both in Somerville.

RCN tends to be less expensive, but provides reliable internet, TV and phone. It also uses TiVo for its set top box, which is cool.

Comcast is a bit more cutting edge, but it breaks more often. The Xfinity platform/DVR is somewhat cloud based. This allows for cool access across multiple devices, but when the cloud breaks, or gets laggy, you lose access/control. Comcast also has more inclusive PPV. For example they have BBC America PPV, which RCN does not.

Ultimately, I'm staying with RCN. As cool as Xfinity is when it is working, it does not work enough to be really annoying...and RCN is somewhat cheaper...

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I just have internet. I use an antenna for Local TV. The HD signals are uncompressed and the picture is superior. Best of all it's FREE.

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