Classic Dot dive could have hours cut because of brawling women

UPDATE: The licensing board suspended the bar's liquor license for three days; took no action on rolling back closing time.

A series of recent incidents at the Upstairs Downstairs bar at Neponset Circle is putting the establishment's 2 a.m. closing time at risk.

The Boston Licensing Board decides Thursday what to do about incidents involving brawling women in December, January and February that required every available cruiser in Dorchester to respond. In one incident, some patrons took advantage of the commotion to jump behind the bar and empty the cash register and haul off several bottles of liquor. In another, a Boston police officer on detail in the bar heard bottles smashing behind him - at which point a bartender jumped on the bar, turned on the lights and told people to leave.

"You saw no punches thrown did you?" bar attorney Robert Quinn asked the officer. "No, only bottles," he replied.

"A radio call goes out which requires all the units in C-11 to go down and respond to the [bar on the] Quincy line and deprives the rest of Dorchester of police protection," Chairman Daniel Pokaski said. "Why should this board put up with that? We can't allow that to happen. It's gotten out of control. ... It's not going to continue as it is. It just isn't."

The bar says it's attempting to stop problems by cutting the number of people allowed upstairs - where the bar plays hip hop, rather than the Sinatra-style crooning downstairs - from 137 to 80, even though that means some patrons now curse out bar employees for not letting them in. It's also stopped serving drinks in glass upstairs.

The bar also hires two detail officers on weekends, but Sgt. Thomas Brennan of District C-11 said Upstairs Downstairs is going to have problems finding cops in coming months, partly because of summer vacations, but also because a number of officers now refuse to take a job at a place where they have to worry about flying bottles.

Quinn asked the board to give these measures a chance before considering cutting back the bar's hours or taking other measures.


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Now that's what I call a real dive

These kids that think Razzy's and The Model are dives: you never see the customers looting the bar at those joints: they're far too clean and orderly.

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Pony Room is perfectly safe in the day time

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MC,
If you passed it by a few years ago you missed the chance to meet a true gentleman. Joe was the day tender there and he was a great guy. I haven't been lately but the staff and most patrons have always been friendly. Late night is while 'nother story.

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Does the guy who ownes

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Does the guy who ownes Trinity's on Chatham Street in Boston own this place too?

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