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Walsh bans city employees from criticizing the Olympics

The Globe reports that to aid the private organizing group's Olympic bid, he agreed to ban "city employees from criticizing Boston’s bid for the 2024 Summer Games."

No word on just what sort of penalties city workers would get for daring to criticize the private, un-elected group of rich business owners attempting to jam something down the throats of a city that may or may not want the games, let alone saying anything untoward about the undemocratic plutocrats at the IOC who see the games as their own personal plaything.

Read the document for yourself.

Update: The mayor's office has issued a statement:

Mayor Walsh is not looking to limit the free speech of his employees and, as residents of Boston, he fully supports them participating in the community process. This was standard boilerplate language for the Joinder Agreement with the USOC that all applicant cities have historically signed. The Mayor looks forward to the first citywide community meeting that will be held next week.

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... my vote?

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Who is advising this guy?

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This crap I don't tolerate..

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The unions and real estate interests have told their puppet to dance and dance he shall.

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...I think the Olympics here is an excellent idea and I fully support it. The MBTA will have totally new (um, old new) engines spinning on the finest of Chinese bearings, the coaches (the rolling stock kind, not the football kind) will be second to none and Herbert Matter will design a new logo.

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...tends to strike a blow for anonymous comments.

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Micheal, you get what you pay for. Everyone knew Walsh was a tool of the unions during the campaign. So why would one expect him to behave differently regarding the Olympics?

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I am very sorry I voted for you. Can we have a recall election?

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... provides for recalls. While some municipalities do offer this remedy, i do not think Boston is one of these.

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I can ask around--work where there's lot of lawyers.

Fall River just had a special election for a recall. It's a city in MA which suggests Boston might be able to recall Walsh if there really were interest.

http://wpri.com/2014/10/09/date-set-for-recall-election-in-fall-river/

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... in order to allow recall elections for municipal officers (here in Massachusetts). For instance, Lancaster was grantyed the authority to permit recalls just last year. I have a strong suspicion that Boston has never wanted to give its citizens this sort of power over city government.

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Boston does not have a provision for recall elections, for mayor or city councilor.

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This is exactly why i voted for John Connolly.

I'll be voting for whoever is running against Walsh in 3 years.

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Do the IOC overlords permit regime change until after the games?

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This is exactly why i voted for John Connolly.

What makes you think that John Connolly wouldn't have done likewise?

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Connolly wasnt in bed with the corrupt unions.

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The world is awash in capital. Even the Bain Company calls it an era of capital super abundance. What we're not awash in is robust consumer demand because of what we've done.

As power shifted from workers to owners, profits have doubled as a percentage of GDP over the last 30 years and wages has fallen by exactly the same amount-- about a trillion dollars a years.

And what Americans have to realize that an extra trillion dollars in profit annually isn't profit because it needs to be, it's profit because powerful people like me prefer it to be. It could used as wages. It could be used as discounts to consumers.

~ Nick Hanauer

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A lot of city workers are unionized (most?). I'm going to bet whatever retribution he has in mind for them will violate their HR due process.

This should be fun to watch.

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THIS. I keep having to explain to Mrs. Irmo that much as she does not support the Democratic Party and dislikes the way teacher unions tie in with it, those unions are the same reason she can speak her mind and keep on teaching, and the reason I can speak my mind and not have her suffer retaliation.

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Indeed People ,unless they have been in that particular situation , do not understand that unions restore human dignity back to the worker. I never had a boss that was better than me because he was a boss. I may have had smarter bosses for sure. There are social issues on this site that people seem to get the vapors over , but everyone for the most part seems to hate unions here. America only works when America works, be productive out there ,and respect your tools!

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Unions are nothing more than another level of bosses and management. You don't DARE vote or voice against them unless you want bad things to happen.

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Need balls I guess sometimes , a Union is only as good as its members.

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My husband grew up in a public employee union household. He had healthcare, dental care, braces if he needed them, scholarship money, etc. When inflation hit, his dad's wages kept pace more or less.

My dad worked for a state government, but did not have a union. We didn't have healthcare or dental care. When inflation hit, his wages were frozen in a screw the poor attempt to reign in inflation. When we became eligible for foodstamps as a result, he got just enough of a raise to prevent that.

Please take your empty rhetoric and shove it.

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What is Anectodal? For 500

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No one cares Swirl

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Shove it.

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I didn't grow up in a union household or marry someone who did but it's pretty clear who own all the assets in the country and who get all new incom-- the 1% get 95% of all new income-- and they don't give a rats ass about paying people a livable wage for a full time work. Public sector unions are the only counter balance to rapacious corporate greed, whose profits have hit record highs year after year since the end of the great recession

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What do "public sector" unions have to do with "corporate" greed? One of the biggest knocks on public sector unions is that they bargain against the officials they elect and NOT "corporate fat cats."

Your point about income inequality getting worse is a good one, but reasonable people can disagree on whether unions (public or private) are a good way to address that.

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How would you address income inequality, or livable wage for full time work?

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Your "examples" are quite anecdotal. Your husband, your dad. Meanwhile you have never been in a union.

Unlike you I have been in a union sweetheart. My opinion of unions is based on experience, not what others tell me to think. They function well as a collective bargaining agent , but are largely corrupt, stifle innovation, and foster inefficiencies.

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Methinks you need a primer course: Unions 101

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Hello?

Walsh is coming across as a bully during his first year in office.

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doesn't matter when you are an employee. Many 'rights' go out the window..

(I agree with you but this has been tried and tried again and individuals have lost, and companies have one)

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Thus, although the public employer cannot muzzle its employees or penalize them for their expressions and associations to the same extent that a private employer can (the First Amendment, inapplicable to the private employer, is applicable to the public employer),114 the public employer nonetheless has broad leeway in restricting employee speech. If the employee speech does not relate to a matter of “public concern,” then Connick applies and the employer is largely free of constitutional restraint. If the speech does relate to a matter of public concern, then Pickering’s balancing test (as modified by Connick) is employed, the governmental interests in efficiency, workplace harmony, and the satisfactory performance of the employee’s duties115 being balanced against the employee’s First Amendment rights. While the general approach is relatively easy to describe, it has proven difficult to apply.116 The First Amendment, however, does not stand alone in protecting the[p.1090]speech of public employees; statutory protections for “whistleblowers” add to the mix.117

http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt1cfrag5_user.html

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thats the caveat to my statement :) But yes you are correct.

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Apart from whether folks approve of this style of governance, does he have the authority?

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who is Mahty working for really? the citizens of the city of boston, or the USOC/IOC and the 1% who are 'supporting' the Olympic bid.

Seems to me that its not the citizens.....

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This statement from the Globe found here says it all (this may be a paywall)

Documents obtained by the Globe through a public records request to City Hall show Mayor Martin J. Walsh has signed a formal agreement with the United States Olympic Committee that bans city employees from criticizing Boston’s bid for the 2024 Summer Games.

Marty who do you work for? The taxpayers or the USOC.. sounds like you work for the USOC and putting their best interests first over the city's.

Time for you to go.

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... authoritarian BS. The IOC is close to pure evil.

("Mom, Dad, don't touch it, it's evil..." Did they listen, no.)

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I definitely don't approve of this style of governance. The IOC is unaccountable that's why they think these demands are reasonable. Marty is accountable. He'll hear it from people on the street, in the newspaper, and on Election Day.

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It's hard to say who is more like a James Bond super villain. The IOC? Or FIFA?

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...deckared a tie.

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The IOC, USOC, the whole "Olympic Movement" manages the most amazing feat of simultaneously maintaining a wholesome, clean-cut image while being one of the most corrupt organizations on the face of the earth. And don't get me started on WADA/USADA...

Walsh is being an idiot, in plain terms. He better tear up that agreement before the ink dries or it'll come back to haunt him.

(edit: and I bet I'm one of a very few who got the "don't touch it" reference)

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Time Bandits.

;-}

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It's going to come down largely to what the person says that ends up being a "violation" of this rejoinder (e.g. "The Olympics are going to be allowed to execute 20 people at random each day was in part of the paperwork I just worked on!" versus "The IOC members just passed by my office and they smell like burning grease, children's tears, and brimstone had a baby then ate it.").

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...fuck this guy.

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I'm pretty sure the First Amendment trumps his rejoinder agreement. This isn't some company-to-company rejoinder where the companies are agreeing to not screw each other. This is the government telling its citizen employees that they can't say or write whatever they please. There's a different, more entangled, working relationship between Marty and Jack and Jill in BTD than there is between Rupert Murdoch and Shawn Hannity. When the government is the employer they also have the pesky responsibility of also being the government too.

See my link above regarding when and how Marty can and can't restrict his employees' speech.

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In what info the article had, critically, it didn't distinguish between employees making on the record comments versus off the record.

It seems reasonable for the mayor to recommend that the gov-t be consistent. Now if the joinder limits off the record comments, that sounds baldly unconstituitional.

We need more info on the joinder before we read into this.

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[If any typos, they are mine. I could not copy this from the source I found, so I typed it in here.]

In Section 2.05, the joinder says "The City, including it's employees, officers and representatives, shall not make, publish, or communicate to any Person, or communicate in any public forum, any comments or statements (written or oral), that reflect unfavorably upon, denigrate or disparage, or are detrimental to the reputation or statute of the IOC, the IPC, the USOC, the IOC bid, the bid committee, or the Olympics or Paralympic movement. The City, including it's employees, officers and representatives, shall promote the Bid Committee, the USOC, the IOC bid, U. S. Olympic and Paralympic athletes and hopefuls, and the Olympic and Paralympic movement in a positive manner."

What more info could anyone possibly need? It is, in its entirety, an abridgement of the United States and Massachusetts right of free speech as given in the two Constitutions. Passing it off as "boilerplate" is either disingenuous or wholly deceitful. Any public official who knowingly signed such a document should be not only summarily dismissed from office for his failure to uphold the state Constitution, he should probably be tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.

If he signed it NOT knowing what that provision said, he should be dopeslapped by every citizen of the city who wishes to avail themselves of the opportunity.

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No Olympics.

I can take the disruption. I can take the security. But suppressing free speech purely to land the games is a bit too much.

And yes, I do realize that employees, private or public, do lose some liberties while they are working, but this just seems extreme.

EDIT- Marty is walking this back, so I will too. Perhaps I won't change my views on the Olympics, but I am more than willing to wear a "no Olympics" button to work. Just because.

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10 years before the Olympics come to town, our city government's chief exec. Mayor Walsh tries to enforce an embargo on free speech speech by city employees if they would say anything critical about the Olympics.

The Olympics are already making Boston less democratic.

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Were you here during the DNC in 2004? The security setup for that is being held up as a model for the Olympics here. One of the "features" we had were free speech zones, surrounded by barbed wire and guarded by snipers, which you were required to enter if you wanted to exercise your 1st amendment rights.

I think Marty should allow employees to say whatever they want, but only if they're in a similar kind of cage.

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I worked on Canal Street at the time of the DNC. Nothing like getting tear gassed just trying to go to a sub shop for lunch or having a cigarette break out front.

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Short of getting the IOC tot delete or significantly amend this provision, promising "I'm going to ignore the legally bonding agreemen I signed" is meaningless.

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I can promise this to you personally. Get me an anti-Olympics button and I will wear it, if only in relation to work. Let's see how the IOC or the City takes it.

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Let's say someone says something bad about the USOC and it gets to the press. Marty has a decision. He can violate the rejoinder and let the comment stand or he can enforce his part of the rejoinder and crack down on the employee and apologize to the USOC.

If he's not going to enforce the rejoinder, then if the USOC has a problem with that, they'll have to sue Boston. If Marty is going to enforce it and crack down on the staff member, then he's going to have to deal with the inevitable lawsuit from the employee. So, at this point, he's being sued either way. If he's willing to take on the USOC rather than an underling, then that's what he's saying. I'd be surprised if the USOC would sue its designated host city just because no other city would want to work with them for the added risk. So, he's probably made the politically and legally expedient decision.

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Something tells me your mind was made up before Marty's comment.

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Unlike you, anon (not verified), I've actually posted my position on this very UHub (the Olympics would be great as long as the taxpayers aren't fleeced in the process).

However, I don't like being told by out of towners to play nice.

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Every day the evidence mounts that it has been unilaterally decided by the Illuminati, excuse me, the "International Olympic Committee" that the Olympics will be held in Boston and that the people of Boston have absolutely no say in the matter.

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Seems to be the implication. Must be nice to be rich and influential that your only concern is to bring this budget catastrophe to Boston and make sure your political buddies grease the wheels as much as possible while insuring your feelings aren't hurt.

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City of Boston Library Department Librarians are banned from blogging about Boston Public Library. It limits the public learning more about BPL Collections from Librarians with particular expertise. BPL Librarians/Staff should be encouraged to publish and blog about their expertise/interests !

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Don Saklad! That's where you went to!!!

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You never noticed the Sakladian writing style before.

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Keep it up, Marty.

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in order to host the Olympics, you have to turn your city into Pyongyang? Well then, count me out.

YOU MUST NOT CRITICIZE THE DEAR LEADER!

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..equating Marty Walsh with Kim Jong-un.

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the IOC would be Kim Jong-Un in this scenario, but you get the point

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He can probably forbid them from badmouthing the Olympic plans while at work, but can he do anything about their non-partisan, absolutely legal activities outside of work? And this can't possibly have any legs unless the IOC actually picks Boston, right?

In short, WTF?

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Sometime people go outside their reporting hierarchy to raise concerns about a project because the folks in their reporting structure don't take the concern seriously. This puts a chilling effect on criticism that might improve an outcome.

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I was opposed to Boston hosting previously and now even more so. These new revelations are alarming. Boston and the mayor's priority shouldn't be kissing the IOC's ass! I'm shocked that Walsh is backing this... so much for seeming like a friend to the average Bostonian. Disgraceful. At this point, how can any informed resident vote in favor of these Olympic shenanigans??

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Banning all Boston media outlets from negatively reporting on the potential of the Olympics coming to town? What country do we live in? SMH

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... the major media in Boston are already tail-wagging IOC bootlickers.

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Well, at least we have UHub as a voice of reason.

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about whether anonymous comments should be allowed on the internet at all?

Here's why they should.

(I'm actually not anonymous on most sites, I'm just lazy and don't want to deal with another login. I've been posting here for several years now.)

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This gives power to the USOC over city employees. Pardon my language but NO FUCKING WAY!

The mayor of Boston, the city where people put their lives on the line to resist the arrogance and abuse of a government that saw Boston as its pawn and servant, where a war was fought for the right of self-determination, has with a signature forfeited that right that is granted to all citizens of Boston, no matter who is their employer. Marty has signed away part of the soul that makes a person a United States citizen. A fundamental part of our identity is to criticize anyone anywhere: whether private or public, profit or non-profit. Has Marty declared that Boston city government will be a whore for a bunch of self-serving rich plutocrats?

Will Marty now sign a document forbidding citizens of this city from criticizing the Olympics?

How much silver did they pay you Marty?

I join the chorus of gross disappointment with the new mayor.

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Read the Cornell link above.

City employees still have the right to self-determinedly say whatever they want about the Olympics. However, they don't have a self-determined right to work for the city. That's what the courts have decided. So, the city could fire them as long as it follows its contract agreements with them just like it fired the part-time employee from the highway protests. That's why I stated above that it'll be fun to see him try to enforce this with a unionized city employee. They will have far more protections about when, how, and for what they can be fired for than at-will employees and contractors.

So, he hasn't forfeited their rights with a signature. He's definitely created a conundrum and legal (read: money) battle should he ever be told to enforce this rejoinder by the USOC due to something that's said by a city employee, especially a unionized one. But they'd get to keep on saying whatever they wanted even if/after losing their job without fear of prosecution.

There's a big difference between prosecution and losing your job over having said something and the courts have split that difference just fine even for government employees (again, read the Cornell link).

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He's out of his mind.

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At least a few key employees walk into his office and drop resignation letters on his desk.

Wishful thinking I'm sure, but the guy needs a wakeup call.

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The mayor should be ashamed of himself.

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Any politician who is capable of feeling shame is clearly unfit for office.

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After he fired a city employee for protesting against other city employees (cops), its not surprising he is banning other city employees from other types of free speech. I wonder if the people who supported his earlier effort to stifle free speech are now surprised/angry that it applies to something they believe in?

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Mayor Walsh has really overstepped his boundaries beyond what's acceptable...big time. People have the right to openly disagree with him about the Olympics if they want.

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Stick a fork in him. He's done.

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You just said "He's done" not becuase you have any insight into the politics but because you don't want him to be mayor.

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Do share the poll you mention. I don't know of anyone outside of his Braintree union pals who want to vote him in again.

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What poll numbers? When were they taken? These are all very recent developments, you know.

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I'm sure Mayor Fish had a very good reason for muzzling city employees about the Olympic bid.

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... the Mayor is not (or was not, before today) even aware he agreed to this. I assume his staff just shoved the paperwork in front of him and said -- here, you have to sign this, the IOC folks have assured us that is all just routine boilerplate that all serious candidate cities have to agree to in order to be considered.

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Then shame on him for not doing his job.

And people wonder why I am so not willy nilly on signing contracts and will stand there... anywhere I have to sign.. and read for 20 minutes because of this crappola that people put in them.

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... for hiring incompetent (legal) staff people.

He (and/or his staff) has really screwed himself up. He looks really REALLY bad if he re-affirms this -- but if he disavows it, the IOC might disqualify Boston. And he probably can't get away with pretending it never happened.

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Marty Walsh is spending political capital on the Olympics not on Boston's priorities.

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Beach volleyball on Boston Common!!! Eyes on the prize, people!

Okay, got that off my chest.... so

Who do you think would make a decent mayor in a few years?

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Off topic re: Olympics and on topic regarding signing anything put in front of me. Seveal years when I first wanted to see a doctor at Fenway Community Health they asked me to sign a sheet of paper that had only information. It was not a contract or any other kind of agreement. There was not a paragraph indicating that my signature represented that I had read the information. So I didn't see any reason for signing and didn't. Handed the sheet to the receptionist. She called to me to say I didn't sign the paper. I acknowledged that and explained I didn't see any reason to. She got a bit huffy; someone at another counter in the lobby (this was the old building) stood as though ready to defend himself. The atmospher suddenly was tense as though something threatening was present. Simple because someone said No.

Buildings where visitors are expected to to sign their name on a log. Everytime I enter one I feel possessed by the spirits of Abe Lincoln and Noneof Yourbusiness.

Institutions and their employees don't like it when the average Joe or Jane (which would include their employees) says no.

So Cybah I fully understand your taking your sweet time to read the contract before you sign it.

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MassLive has posted the actual document.

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... but that doesn't mean that he bothered to read what he was signing -- or that his staff warned him as to what he was signing (virtually legal AND political malpractice).

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It was funny on MASH when Radar would do it to Henry, but this is real life and Marty Walsh is making Henry Blake look more competent than himself.

If Walsh does just sign anything thrown in front of him, he's too stupid or corrupt to be Mayor.

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... he personally needs to read everything he signs. But he is _responsible_ for everything he signs and also responsible for hiring people who properly vet such stuff AND alert him to any problems (and offer solutions to same).

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You're saying that Walsh does not need to read everything he signs, but you then say he's responsible for everything he signs. So, if he was a smart politician, would he not cover his ass and read everything he puts his name on?

I know I do and I'm not running a major American city.

And would he not have advisers who look out for gaffes like this one and shield him from it?

Something is very Fishy here...

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I just updated the original post with a statement from the mayor's office: Basically, he says, yeah, he signed some boilerplate that calls for censoring city workers, but no, he won't be doing that.

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He really ought to amend it so it's clear what he has and has not agreed to.

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He signed a legally binding document -- and he plans to simply ignore what he signed. He needs new lawyers (and political advisers) -- pronto.

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Do you think the IOC would be cool if the state signed an agreement to cover all cost overruns and then said, we won't be enforcing that. Never. And we'd lose in court. Update the document to accurately represent the agreement.

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With both you and Micheal!

If we tried to do this, we'd be strung to a cross. You bet USOC will try to enforce it or sue to enforce it even if marty doesn't.

I wish we could ignore cost overruns and let the USOC pick up the tab instead.

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Question: what will be the next Revelation?
And does this dethrone "Deflategate"? Stay Tuned.

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Basically he says, yeah, he signed some boilerplate that calls for censoring city workers, but no, he won't be doing that.

Translation: My signed promise to do something is worthless

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IMPEACH!!!

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Don't forget, the first public meeting is next Tuesday:

Event Description:
The city will hold it's [sic] first public meeting on the Boston 2024 effort on January 27 at 6:30 p.m. at Suffolk Law School, 120 Tremont St. The meeting will be to discuss the benefits and impact on the City.
Meetings and additional steps in the community process will be announced on an ongoing basis.

For More Information Contact:
Mayor's Press Office
617.635.4461

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But now aren't you worried that as soon as the doors open, every seat in the place will already be filled with smiling robotic pro-Olympics city-or-otherwise personnel? They did promise 70,000 jobs...

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sounds a lot like the casino. Union guys filling every meeting, intimidating all who dared speak against it. The Mayor pushing for it. The Speaker of the House pushing for it. Labor, developers and big businesses all pushing for it. Still defeated in a vote that they thought they had sewn up. Granted, the whole shebang went off the rails as they bent the rules to get what they want like a 4 year old playing Candyland with mom ("No mommie...I go up there, not you." "That's cheating! Screw you, you little brat!")

Point being, put it to a vote. And for the pro-Olympics folks (which I could be convinced to be) GET IT IN WRITING. LINE UP YOUR LAWYERS.

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You can't do your jobs if your jobs involve dealing with reality for the safety and health of all citizens.

Lovely.

What country is this, again?

Seems as though the IOC Parasite had invaded Dear Mayor's brain.

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I am not an apologist for the Olympic bid in real life (I remain open-minded) and I sure as *shit* don't want to be one here, but it looks like boilerplate to me. The organizing committee asking the city not to tank the proposal is kind of reasonable (just don't sign the agreement instead), "or its employees" seems almost like a technical clause, not a call to police the behavior of 18K city employees.

Walsh should be more careful but some of you are reading a lot into his intent, it may (as Michael Kerpan suggests above) not be as you suggest.

Although I like a good flaming torch and pitchfork web riot as much as the next guy.

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... just because it is uniform, using standardized language, does not make it meaningless -- or unenforceable. When you take out a mortgage, almost everyting you sign is "boilerplate" -- try using its boilerplateness as an excuse for missing some payments -- and averting foreclosure.

BTW -- I am not offering "not actually reading it" as an excuse -- only as an explanation. He is totally responsible for signing this dreck whether he personally read it or not.

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If "standard boilerplate language" doesn't matter, isn't every legal document in the world in play now?

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I understand it's enforceable, I think it was a mistake. People, even mayors, make mistakes, and he needs to own it. But it's plausible to me that he never intended to censor rank and file city employees expressing themselves reasonably. Let's see what he has to say.

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... it was his duty to understand what he was signing (either by reading it himself or by hiring competent legal and political advisors read it and tell him about any potential problems). He is to blame equally -- in either case. Mayors don't get a pass on "mistakes" of this caliber.

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(To Carty)

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If Walsh had any backbone or cared about an open and fair process he would have forced his Olympic masters to take that clause out of the contract. Just shows who is really in charge here.

Disgusting

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His intent is going to come out when he finally speaks on this matter. That will be fun as well.

However, his intent doesn't matter. What he signed an agreement to do is what matters here. He signed an agreement to make our city's employees play nice with the Olympics. That's offensive since it comes from a government official, not just an employer.

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Yup, I hear ya.

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So now he can either claim to be a tyrant or incompetent. He really should have stopped to think for a moment before signing this.

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This Business Will Get Out of Control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-JA1ffd5Ms

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Working for the city does not mean one loses all First Amendment rights. Although Article II, Section 2.05 of the agreement tries to couch it in constitutionally acceptable terms, I doubt that this is constitutional or legally enforceable. Pickering and Connick would clearly define this as a matter of "public concern" and add in the rights of city employees as residents of the city. So why did the Mayor sign it? I suspect he has just lost the next election.

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Every other city signs this agreement, so did I, but no, I won't be enforcing it (see the updated original post).

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If I'm working for the city and I'm public complaining about the mayor and everything he does, there's a good chance I'm not getting that promotion.

The IOC wants something like 80% support when they choose a city...I certainly don't see that happening here (thank god).

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This also restricts public workers from saying things like "our sewage systems cannot cope with the proposed additional load" or other potentially important factual statements about infrastructure that the IOC doesn't want to hear.

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So it's a really bad idea for practical reasons too, not just on principle -- you know, government making laws abridging the freedom of expression.

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...is Scotty working at the DPW now?
IMAGE( http://www.affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/star_trek_scotty_small.jpg)

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The combined sewage antimatter outfall's gonna blow itself to pieces, Jim! We'll lose the rowing venues for sure!

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a recall election and referendum on the same ballot. Why does Marty fear his bosses?

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It seems clear that the strategy of the oligarchs who are pursuing this is to either pay-off prospective opposition or shut them up, forcefully and with the force of government if necessary.

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some of us call it the People's Republik of Massachusetts.

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We invented America.

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"We"?
Whose this we?

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If you don't think that what happened here in the 1770s - the actions and notions that set up our nation - wasn't so very left wing that it was considered to be intensely and dangerously radical at the time, well, you were robbed when it came to American History classes.

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Swirly was so old

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I wouldn't doubt that there's a working time travel machine somewhere in the many basements of MIT.

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Yes, people who were open minded about change made this country. Unfortunately there is a large number of conservatives in this country who fear any mention of change. If it were up to conservatives, we would be a British slave state where only white land owners could vote and Rock and Roll would be banned.

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Oh FFS!

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Funny, I always thought Philadelphia also had a part in the revolution.

You gotta laugh at the typical Northeasterner thinking that Boston actually is the Hub of the universe.

And I'm from around here!

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Most of those who did the dirty work of revolution were from MA.

Originally or otherwise ... Franklin was born downtown and radicalized Philly.

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... the Pennsylvania delegation was pretty reluctant to declare independence.

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Philadelphia was the site of the First and Second Continental Congresses for two main reasons - it was centrally located - ie within a week's travel for most delegates, and Pennsylvania's delegates and populace were considered overall relatively 'neutral' in terms of their feelings about the Crown. At least as late as 1774, most of the southern colonies were still quite opposed to any sort of break with England (Georgia didn't even send delegates to the first Congress).

Conversely, for some years before the War for Independence, the New England colonies had been home to the majority of recognized radical essayists and public figures (eg Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Roger Sherman etc). Boston really was the 'Birthplace of the American Revolution' in terms of philosophy and actual precipitating events.

(Btw, I'm not originally from here (I'm a New Jersey boy - which had many of the larger and nastier battles) - but even I can admit that Boston and Massachusetts can claim that appelation with legitimate pride.)

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..this is what I love about UHub threads....you never know where they're going but they usually end up somewhere fun. Even better when they're fun, obscene and absurd.

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And I know that this may come off as nitpicking (and I'm prepared to be called a number of bad things for doing so), but it's wicked bad journalism to use quote marks in the opening sentence

The Globe reports that to aid the private organizing group's Olympic bid, he agreed to ban "city employees from criticizing Boston’s bid for the 2024 Summer Games."

as it suggests that language is a direct quote from the primary document, which it isn't.

Section 2.05, the clause drawing concern doesn't use this language, so you can't use quotes around it to suggest that it does. You can paraphrase it as 'City employee can not make any public statements that reflect poorly upon the Olympic bid, USOC, IOC and related groups'

But if you're going for the sensational title and content, you can do whatever you want, just without the quote marks.

I have lots of feelings about primary sources. Sorry.

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being a city employee seems awesome.

when are they unveiling the thought-police division?

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you cant have it both ways. you all voted for him!

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Mr. Walsh received 52% of the vote. Enough to squeak a win, but by no means a widespread mandate.

Of course, that is itself beside the point as voting for an individual does not mean one must henceforth be an unabashed supporter of whatever baloney they choose to perpetrate.

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The Boston Business Journal has renderings of the (proposed) sites for the 2024 Olympics.

http://m.bizjournals.com/boston/real_estate/2015/01/boston-2024-olympics...

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