Gunfire erupts at Bromley-Heath; six shot

Updated Saturday morning with additional info from police.

A party at Bromley Hall in the Bromley-Heath project ended in chaos around 11:15 p.m.with six people shot and other people injuring themselves just trying to escape.

Police report the gunshot victims were all between 18 and 22; five male. Most themselves fled; victims were found in other buildings in Bromley-Heath, at the Jackson Square T stop and Marcella Street in Roxbury - and at Boston Medical Center, where two had friends drive them. At least one was shot in the chest, another in the stomach. The homicide unit was summoned due to the severity of one victim's injuries.

Several people suffered minor injuries trying to escape the violence.

Officers and detectives had to be brought in from neighboring police districts to help with the investigation and crowd control.

The busway at the Jackson Square T stop was shut; the 22, 29, and 44 buses detoured around the station.

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Omg, that's crazy. I was

Omg, that's crazy. I was thinking the same thing, thezak, when I saw that 6 people were shot - " Whatever happened to that Bromley Heath radio station that those MIT kids ran?".

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Seriously guy?

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Don't you think it's more than just a bit obnoxious to pick on theszak? Yeah, he's a bit hyperfocussed - making broad topical or systemic comments rather than overtly empathic ones. But that's clearly just how he is - and he's never nasty or dismissive of others.

I'd say you give hipsters a bad (worse?) name, but I rather suspect that was your intent. Your comments are usually nasty (bordering on abusive), and directed towards those broadly categorizable as "not typically Conservative" (eg women, non-whites, liberals/progressives, young people, bike owners etc). Maybe you get some weird kick out of thinking people will misdirect their distaste at your behaviour towards a group you actually show little evidence of belonging to.

You'll probably come back at me with some weak tea baloney about free-speech-you're-not-the-boss-of-me-yadda-yadda. To be clear, I'm not saying you should be muzzled by any outside agency (adam, the gubbamint, the pope, the flying spaghetti monster, etc). I'm asking you why you apparently believe that being a dick to people on this site is a good use of your time?

(Btw, I would have sent this privately, but you didn't allow a means to do that when you registered a couple months ago.)

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Why, internet, does it only

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Why, internet, does it only take 3 replies on ANY article, regardless of subject matter, for the comments section to devolve into a singling-out, personal attack-and-defense fest? Get over yourselves. There are far more suitable places to exercise your rabid thirst for flaming than a local story of tragedy not even 12 hours old

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Commenting sections on the

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Commenting sections on the internet are the digital equivalent of Thunderdome. The participants and spectators expect no less than a no rules barred pit fight,

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Bathroom stall

Its the digital equivalent of writing insults to random people on the wall of a bathroom stall.

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Speak for yourself

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I mean, it's one of my things.

Here's my deal with this. I think that pointing out the utter oddness of his tangents is fair game. I mean, 6 people shot and this is his first thought? Same thing with the shooting the Brigham. That one really frosted me, bringing up how the hospital could be more sensitive to patients while a surgeon lay dead at the hands of the relative of a patient. For the life of me, I don't know why he insists on posting things that are barely related to the topic at hand.

I get it. I really hate to put this into writing, but Don probably has issues. He's not that bad of a guy, and he is pretty harmless, but he is functioning enough that I have no problem noting when he is writing really odd things. And unlike most of you, I actually know who he is and have dealt with him in the past in the non-internet world.

And, of course, he wants the City Clerk to violate state law, but I do try to only bring that up when he brings it up.

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You didn't read the article.

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You didn't read the article. If you did, you'd see how it's relevant to the story.

Thank you szak for sharing it.

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A variety of communications for a variety of perceptions...

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It's the idea providing a variety of avenues of communication for a variety of perceptions to be made known could improve neighbors being safe, protected, cared for even when there are terrors.

Another example
Airwaves
WBFO to Broadcast Views From East Side
http://fultonhistory.com/Newspapers%2021/Buffalo%20NY%20Courier%20Expres...

Any other examples?... besides
http://universalhub.com

and at
http://nnnonline.org/
http://www.bnntv.org/

However Boston Neighborhood Network/Neighborhood Network News got appropriated by the talented administrators in a manner that too limits the civic participation indicated in the mission/mandate . And BNN along with NNN have failed to update technologies/software for 2015.

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Good Memory

I have no idea what happened to the station but I used to be a Carrier Current tech and I can say it's an almost useless way of broadcasting. (Carrier Current works by modulating a signal and using the power cables in building as the antenna.) It fails when you have motor loads (refrigerator, air conditioner, etc) or big transformers and the signal won't travel far so you need to have your radio pretty close to the wall. Lots of static, low fidelity, etc.

The good news is that it's pretty cheap and falls under Part 15 of the FCC regulations so you don't need a license to transmit. But even if they kept the equipment around it's questionable how many residents even have an AM radio in their apartments and would put up with all the static.

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Ah

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That explains why I couldn't find anything in the FCC archives about its license...it didn't have one.

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That link..

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Goes to one of the finest pieces of revisionist History I have ever encountered.

TMC was a joke. They were all greedy turds on the take like you wouldnt believe. The work they did was a disgrace. Mildred and her Son? Lol.
If things were so excellent back then, if things were going so ,"swimmingly," then why did they loose the account?

The area where the shootings were, are in a well kmown "hot spot" to those in the "know."

Bromley, IS big and bad, no doubt, especially past 430--but its getting better and better now that the BHA took over again.

My guess is a Hope IV for da "old side" at some point in the next 5-8 years.

** Burzum is my fav new troll although his strain as a author/personae is becoming apparent. Over consistency in tone/subject matter = predictability.

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What's a Hope IV?

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Thanks in advance for any explanation.

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Google?

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I already have a couple kids to feed.

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I googled it.

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It isn't accepting any new applications and hasn't been funded since 1993. So I ask again what is a Hope IV in the context of the Bromley Heath? And by "da old side" you are referring to the elderly?

Sometimes it's difficult for people to understand what you mean when you write in a combination of jargon and Ebonics. Particularly when referring to fairly arcane grant programs run by HUD.

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HOPE VI

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can give you a quick overview on the HOPE VI program, but it's basically a federal redevelopment program for older public housing developments based in part on the redevelopment of Columbia Point that started in the late eighties. Boston's earliest public housing developments date from the late thirties and early forties, so the oldest ones are really old now. There are seven or eight HOPE VI projects have already happened, I think (West Broadway Homes, Orchard Gardens and Orchard Commons, for instance) and some that are ongoing (Old Colony; I can't remember if there are others).

It has the advantage of replacing aging and/or crumbling infrastructure that a housing authority probably can't afford to replace on its own - Columbia Point was literally falling apart and mostly uninhabited and uninhabitable, for instance; not all the HOPE VI projects in Boston since then were in quite as sorry a state, but the buildings are old, and have gone through periods where upkeep wasn't happening for whatever reason (money, mismanagement, whatever). The resulting properties are lower-density mixed-income and/or mixed-use sites, where the housing authority owns the land, but the private developer owns, manages, and fills the buildings with tenants. The new developments have fewer total units, and fewer of them are designated for folks in the kind of income bracket that qualifies you for public housing, which is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on your perspective. Many times people who were residents of the original development are given the opportunity to return as tenants at the redeveloped site, and there's a complicated mechanism by which they retain the specific rights they had as public housing residents, which are a little different from normal tenants' rights.

So that's it in a nutshell. Whether it's the cure for what ails Bromley, I have no idea. (I'm also not sure they're still handing out funds under the program - I think a lot of the most recent grants were ARRA money, and I think that's been exhausted, but my knowledge is mostly historical rather than current.)

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Thank you Jennie.

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I was actually familiar with Hope VI because of Columbia point. Hope IV was a mystery. I appreciate your response. Very informative.

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Pretty Good Overview-

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a few added notes: HOPE VI [aka HOPE 6) has not been a funded program ever since GWB suddenly realized that the program had rectified/cured all of the "distressed" public housing in the US and we could congratulate ourselves and cut funding at the same time. The program went from funding 20-30 "revitalizations"/year to fewer than a handful by the time congress dried up the funding...of course, there are still a few bad projects still out there. Boston was pretty successful in competitively landing a number of grant including Maverick Garden, Mission Main, and Washington Beech; The BHA went after other funds for Cathedral but residents opposed "gentrification". Part of the success, it is believed , had to do with the strength of the congressional delegation.

The program of choice these days is Choice Neighborhood Initiative (CNI) which is similar to HOPE VI in rebuilding public housing but also looking at the broader neighborhood and requiring partnerships with other CDCs and non-profits to "revitalize" the community and not just the distressed public housing development The BHA is currently hoping to land a grant to rebuild Whittier (near Ruggles). There is a larger element of mixed-income and tax credits to help fund the project and to change the monolithic demography of these developments...It is not known how much longer CNI will be funded especially with the new balance in congress.

Another program to preserve and renovate existing development is Rental Assistance Demonstration (RAD) now in its first year or so; will probably be renamed after its demonstration year. Decreases in capital funds to maintain and preserve public housing is forcing federally funded housing authorities to establish partnerships with private non-profits to leverage funds from states, cities and investors (low-income tax credits) etc to make these things work....I heard the other day that the current trend suggests that housing authorities could be replaced by smaller for- and non-profit housing development and managers within the next 20 years...I'll believe it when I see it but an interesting thought.

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I'm pretty sure

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it refers to street address.

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Nobody was shot at the T station

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They were all shot at the community center; those who could, ran away (or jumped into cars for a ride up to BMC). One of them wound up at the T stop.

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HOW's THAT JP GENTRIFICATION

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HOW's THAT JP GENTRIFICATION AND HOUSING THING WORKIN' OUT FOR YA,,??????

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OH MA GAH!!

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How quickly can I put my place on the market and find a place in Scituate or Weymouth??

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Just random towns.

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Could've said Newton and Randolph or Lakeville and Burlington. Anywhere to get away from the pulsating living hell that is life in Jamaica Plain, according to this poster.

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None of us know anything

None of us know anything about this yet.

Bromley Heath houses a lot of different people. Most are not gang members or violent. Most parties in Bromley Heath are as innocuous as any others in the city. Some a**hole has tried to kill a lot of people. We don't know why-- could be gang related, could be like James Holmes or Scott Dekraai.

We. Don't. Know.

So let's just have some compassion for the victims, and if you actually have some information that could help the cops find the shooter, let them know.

Information that is not your assumption, your guess, your conspiracy theory, the first draft of your rewrite of The Turner Diaries.

If you witnessed anything, or if the shooter confessed to you, then call the cops.

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Thanks...

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For chiming in with some of the most generic bullshit that i have ever read on this site.

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i guess

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My tone and word selection make my point nonesensical?

HOWS THE VIEW UP THERE PROFESSOR ADAM?

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I thought the Whole Foods was

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I thought the Whole Foods was gonna speed up gentrification. Do we need to build amother one?

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Its not

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gentrification if the neighborhood was historically white.

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O RLY?

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That's not what they say in South Boston.

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Oh No! the boogie man

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Just look at South Boston. Editor, your prejudice and unwarranted vilification is showing again.

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Oh, Shecks ...

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People in South Boston never complaint about gentrification? The originally-from-Southie crowd can't shut up about all the yuppies moving in and ruining everything.

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wow!

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never heard that one before....but it's a great segue to talk about class in this great "classless" society.

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For Starters

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I'm an American of Dominican descendants. I'll bet my wallet that these were indeed a bunch of thugs who either did it in gang-related bravado or just because of an argument. I work near the area and seldom are these sort of actions ever the result of vicious WASPs (though the media likes to portray it). Gentrification is a 14-letter monster and due to the fervent purchase power of the likes of Northeastern University, don't be surprised when projects like Bromley-Heath get demolished or replaced. Actions like this one only solidify that stance.

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Northeastern University is no

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Northeastern University is no where near Bromley Heath. Why would any university be responsible for the gentrification of JP? It's not near any of them!

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Off campus housing...

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Universities with boatloads of money and influence are able to buy large swaths of property.

If there ever became a situation in which B-H were condemned and had to be rebuilt I'm willing to wager that the powers that be would look into redeveloping this land into something more consistent with the overall tenor of the area.

Then again I'm officially clueless about stuff like this, but is it really hard to imagine this happening?

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Assimilation Is Imminent. Resistance Is Futile.

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Arguably local universities habits of rapid expansion do mean that someday Northeastern may crest Mission Hill. I am just waiting for the day when BU and BC finally touch each other and suspect it will come in the next decade or so.

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Nope

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Online education and the ever increasing costs of college are going to lead to a big downturn in college attendance in the next 20 years. Wentworth, MassArt, and the like will be gone and only the large or specialized professional colleges will survive.

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The NU hinterland

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I can't say with certainty, but I do know that I have seen Northeastern students on the back of the hill. If you look at the distances BU or BC students live from campus and the T accessibility, the Bromley-Heath area is ripe for becoming a student section.

Of course, if the universities got their act in gear and provided housing for the students who want/need it, perhaps we wouldn't be talking about such things. But that is another debate for another time.

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Bromley-Heath mentioned in Boston 200 (1975) tourist guide

The Boston 200 tourist guidebook, published in 1975 for the city's BIcentennial celebrations, devoted a few pages to outlying neighborhoods. For Jamaica Plain, it says:

Although the Arboretum is Jamaica Plain's most conspicuous attraction, the neighborhood also contains the delightful Children's Museum, the home of Mayor Curley (now in use by the Oblate Fathers), and Bromley-Heath, the first tenant-run housing project in the U.S.

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Location