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Storm drains on Marlborough Street drain into the Neponset?

Seems kinda fishy, but, then, who would have thought an oil spill in Brighton would wind up in the Muddy River?

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There are high level and low level sewer systems - whatever that means. One of them runs over towards the Neponset - I found articles referring to the original work in the Globe archives when I was investigating Stony brook. I suppose it's possible that Marlborough st is connected to the Neponset, but it does sound counter-intuitive.

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I'm off to the Globe archives. That's a great lead.

The staff at the Charles River Watershed Association have been very helpful. We may just find an answer to this.

I'll also do an tour of plaques today to see if I find more waterways cited in the Back Bay.

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In know in some areas of other cities, the drainage is governed by when a system was built more than where that system is. They put the drainage systems in place when areas were being developed and put them through to the drainage they could reach with new construction rather than the nearest waterway. That way, they didn't rip up already developed areas, or add to systems that lacked the capacity for new hook ups.

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I have an unfortunate familiarity with the city drain system. There are three plaques as referenced in the article. None of them would be particularly correct for this catch basin as it is connected to a combined sewer system (the west side interceptor to be exact), meaning that most of the time the water drains to a treatment plant (in this case deer island). So that anything going into this catch basin is treated and released into the ocean outside of the harbor.

In the event that the interceptor is surcharged with stormwater, there is an overflow regulator that sends water to the Boston Marginal conduit that runs along the Charles to deer island as well. Should the BMC become surcharged, the last resort relief is MWRA CSO #18, which dumps untreated water into the Charles (on I assume very rare occasions). So the correct plaque, should read "its kinda ok to dump if there are no big storms coming because this water is treated and drains to outside of Boston Harbor. In the event that a large storm should cause the system to overflow, some really bad sewage may end up in the Charles River, but your little bag of dog poop is probably the least of the concern."

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Anon-a-mouse

You're the second person to give me this answer.

That was what the staff at CRWA suspected from maps that were on the Boston Water and Sewer site.

The depth of knowledge available through UH is amazing. It will be interesting if I finally receive an answer to this from the city to hear what they think is happening.

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Its a case of the wrong plaque was installed. The charles river plaque would be the one I would expect to see there since very few true drainage outfalls discharge to the river. Oftentimes, the wrong plaque is specified on plans, but usually its the Harbor flounder plaque since that is the default on their detail (I think). Rarely have I ever even seen the Neponset one. It could be that the contractor had the wron one and just stuck it there anyways to save money. Really I think its irrelevent where the water goes, the point is that you shouldn't dump. Its funny though, 90% of people out there don't even notice them, nevermind question the correctness of them. Nice catch.

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I've had confirmation of the information from the Charles River Watershed Association and Anon-a-mouse.

The storm water in most of the Back Bay goes for treatment. However, as outlined above, there are circumstances where there may be overflow discharge.

The educational plaques are an important tool in keeping things out of the system in parts of the city that actually feed into waterways. Not dumping is the right message, no matter where you are. The Neponset River plaque must have been placed in error by the sidewalk contractor and may be replaced.

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