Shot in the head in Roxbury

By adamg on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 4:26pm

AlertNewEngland reports somebody was shot in the head around 3 p.m. at 99 Blue Hill Ave. around 3 p.m.

State Rep. Carlos Henriquez notes the shooting scene is right across the street from a "problem address" at 102 Blue Hill Ave. Here are some recent crime reports from the two addresses (data courtesy Dorchester Reporter):

05/03/11	99 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY	05:50:00 PM	Arrest made
04/23/11	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY	09:01:00 AM	Arrest made
04/09/11	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY	01:25 AM
04/06/11	102 BLUE HILL AV	DRUGS - POSS. CLASS B - INTENT TO MFR DIST DISP	05:30 PM	Arrest made
03/31/11	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY	08:45 PM	Arrest made
03/20/11	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY D/W - KNIFE	07:39:00 AM
03/01/11	99 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT D/W - GUN	01:26:00 PM
02/07/11	102 BLUE HILL AV	TRESPASSING	02:47:00 PM	Arrest made
01/10/11	102 BLUE HILL AV	RECEIVING STOLEN PROPERTY	08:41:00 AM	Arrest made
12/09/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	B&E RESIDENCE NIGHT - ATTEMPT FORCE	01:44:00 AM
12/01/10	99 BLUE HILL AV	B&E RESIDENCE DAY - FORCE	11:54:00 AM
07/13/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY D/W - OTHER	01:28 AM	Arrest made
07/06/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT D/W - OTHER	02:26:00 AM
05/28/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	LIQUOR - DRINKING IN PUBLIC	10:22:00 PM
05/24/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY	10:39:00 PM
05/10/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY	07:42:00 PM
05/04/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY D/W - OTHER	12:06:00 PM
04/07/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY D/W - OTHER	11:45:00 PM
04/06/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY D/W - OTHER	11:50:00 PM	Arrest made
03/06/10	102 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY	11:36:00 PM	Arrest made
03/02/10	99 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY D/W - KNIFE	12:25:00 PM	Arrest made
02/04/10	99 BLUE HILL AV	ASSAULT & BATTERY	12:43:00 PM

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who reports?

By Ron Newman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 7:42pm.

You seem to be missing a noun at the beginning of this item.

Fixed

By adamg on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 7:50pm.

Thanks.

Who else? ;-)

By AlertNewEngland on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 8:19pm.

I was going to mention it, but figured your readers would have instinctively known it was me, anyways.

Yo Adam, can we, and by that

By Ducii on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 9:30pm.

Yo Adam,

can we, and by that I mean us sane Black folk, have a one day moratorium imposed on reporting any news concerning deaths in Roxbury, Dorchester, or other places most of us live so as to give others the impression that Black America in Boston can indeed go one day without 'murking' someone?

And don't EVEN get me started on the Cornel West post above.

There are some sane Black people, white people!!!!!

plenty of other people live in Roxbury and Dorchester

By Ron Newman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 10:56pm.

so a crime report in those neighborhoods does not necessarily have anything to do with Black people. I think you'll find more Vietnamese than any other group in Fields Corner, for instance.

Newman (in the Seinfeld

By Ducii on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:44pm.

Newman (in the Seinfeld voice), that wasn't the point I was making - (that only Blacks live in Dorchester and Roxbury). My point was, clearly, that most of the crime reports stemming from those communities that are usually posted at this website, have been committed by Blacks. And I jokingly asked Adam to stop posting crime reports concerning Blacks from those areas because I don't want whites at this website who read these posts everyday about some Black teen robbing, shooting, killing and dealing, believing these criminals are representative and indicative of all Blacks in those communities.

So yes, a crime report from Roxbury does not theoretically necessitate making a racial assumption of the perp. But you tell me the last time you read a post here, other than the recent dumbasses at Savin Hill, where a Vietnamese/Korean/White gangbanger was slingin' dope and had to shoot up four people?

As a black guy, I too, have to stop myself from categorizing most of the Blacks who live in these communities as 'dangerous' - this is dangerous in and of itself - and I'm BLACK!

Makes me think of that Chris Rock joke...Google it.

So Adam, do a brother a favor and give us a break with the Black crime posting for at least a day; let some other group get their criminal 'shine on' for awhile.

Problem spot

By anon on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 9:22am.

It really doesn't matter WHO lives in this very small zone where there is so much violence - what matters is that it is a cluster of crazy that the police should notice.

Let me guess ...

By SwirlyGrrl on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 10:58am.

You're the one who says "don't call the cops just because mom and dad are drunk and brawling again - WE DON'T WANT THE NEIGHBORS THINKING BAD THINGS ABOUT US!!!".

The best way to reduce crime posting

By chicken on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 2:01pm.

Is to reduce crime in the first place. Instead of treating the symptom, why not treat the problem?

Do you feel Adam is under-reporting crime in other areas? I don't think he tries to be comprehensive, he just picks out the blotter reports that look interesting.

I clicked on "Crime" at the top and counted some of the recent stories:

Roslindale 4
East Boston 2
Downtown 7
Roxbury 11
JP 7
Back Bay 2
Allston/Brighton 5
Dorchester 16
BU/Fens 1
West Roxbury 2
Mattapan 4
South End 2
Hyde Park 3
Beacon Hill 1
South Boston 4
Charlestown 2
Chinatown 2

In my extremely unscientific count, Dorchester does top the list (though mostly due to a crime spree reported in March which added 6-7 to it). Otherwise, it doesn't seem terribly out of place. And this is somewhat unfair because Dorchester and Roxbury are larger than several of these other districts combined.

And then...

By eeka on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:32pm.

Click on "Roxbury" and "Mattapan" and see how many stories there are about regular old people doing regular old things, compared to people doing such things in other neighborhoods. How many stories are there about tweet fights in our coffee shops, or something cute someone's kid said, or the public schools, or new businesses starting up?

(And when such things ARE reported on, see if some racist jackass comes along and makes some comment about how the business-owning-professional is an uneducated idiot because s/he threw a couple lines of hip-hop lingo into a blog post.)

((For what it's worth, Roxbury is smaller than JP, Roslindale, Brighton, Hyde Park, West Roxbury, Dorchester, South Boston.))

(((Oh, and Adam, I love this site, and it's more balanced than most, but it still suffers the mainstream media problem of reporting disporportionally about whites.)))

Well, someone is making assumptions

By Lecil on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 2:10pm.

I don't want whites at this website who read these posts everyday about some Black teen robbing, shooting, killing and dealing, believing these criminals are representative and indicative of all Blacks in those communities.

Wow. There is a racist assumption going on here, and it has nothing to do with the neighborhood being reported about.

Isn't that accurate though?

By eeka on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:27pm.

The mainstream media reports disproportionally on Blacks and Black neighborhoods being involved with crime compared to reporting on achievements of Blacks or slice-of-life in the Black community. This is part of what leads people to think that Blacks and the Black do a lot of criminal things and not many positive things, when of course that isn't accurate.

How many times do we have comments right here on this site where largely-of-color neighborhoods are mentioned and someone says something about "they" getting what they deserve, or that it's stupid to go into "those" places in the first place, or of course there's nothing nice there it's Roxbury, or the like. Racism is unfortunately alive and well.

Addendum

By Ducii on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:51pm.

And come on dude, Blue Hill Ave is predominantly Black. I will be shocked if my own racial presumptions about specific neighborhood crime is proven incorrect in this instance.

And I'm kicking Cornel off the team tomorrow morning too. That negro has got to go.

we???

By anon on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 2:45pm.

What do you mean we kimosaba as tonto would say.Speak for your self I want to know whats going on so I can avoid it .Im not your brother and I dont need you to speak or represent me. I am tired of fools professing to be my leader and speak for me. Its an embarassment I no longer want to endure.

Thanks for posting

By anon on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 8:10am.

Thanks for posting this--MAYBE this kind of visibility will be enough to get police to take SOME KIND of action on the residents at these two addresses. Clearly this is a source of a LOT of death and crime in the area. Scary. Why can't they evict or raid the place on suspicion of crime?

I think it's that pesky 4th

By AlertNewEngland on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 9:41am.

I think it's that pesky 4th amendment that keeps them from being able to raid the place just on the vague suspicion of "crime". And the government doesn't generally evict you from your house.

This sounds like more than a suspicion

By eeka on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 9:51am.

Not sure what laws are at play in terms of whether they'd be able to seize the house, but cities can certainly condemn a drug house, board it up, etc. for matters of public safety.

I know such laws exist in

By AlertNewEngland on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 10:26am.

I know such laws exist in other cities, but I haven't heard of the same being used in Boston. In fact, with another problem property near Savin Hill, a nearby state rep blames landlords for crimes his tenants commit, and is considering legislation to force landlords to somehow deal with these problems, which leads me to believe the city doesn't have many options, or is unwilling to use them.

http://www.dotnews.com/2011/troubled-house-probed-...

My point with my earlier comment was that the fact that police are frequently called to an address, does not give them the right to break down the door and do random raids.

Right

By eeka on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 1:27pm.

Yeah, they need more than just a lot of calls.

It would be nice if there were laws requiring landlords to deal with their tenants' crap. There currently aren't many. We've gone through this at neighborhood association meetings regarding slumlords who own a bunch of properties and don't care what happens in them. The lawyers in our neighborhood tell us the landlords aren't liable for much of what goes on on their property.

I can understand laws

By AlertNewEngland on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 1:42pm.

I can understand laws requiring tenants to keep up their property (which we already have), but if we're looking for someone to hold responsible for the actions of an adult, then why not the actual person committing the crimes? Why add something to the landlord's responsibilities that he/she really doesn't have the authority to do anything about?
The only action the landlord can really take would be to evict the parties, but their bound by a lease. Unless they violate the lease, I'm not sure what the landlord can do.
In this specific case, I don't even know if that house is a rental, or if the owner is the resident. Such laws wouldn't do much to help the latter example.
To take it a little further, do you really want landlords evicting people based on whether or not they like what's going on in their property? That's a slippery slope, and I'm already envisioning lots of civil rights violations. In fact, I think people fought, successfully, to pass laws that specifically ban landlords from that kind of behavior.

Breaking a lease

By eeka on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:20pm.

The landlord has the right to break the lease if the tenants are violating it and have been asked to stop violating it and continue doing so. The lease usually says vague things about peaceful enjoyment for neighbors, not doing anything illegal or unsafe on the premises, etc. If you have police logs about frequent arrests, fights, etc., that would seem to me like proof that they're causing disturbances.

There needs to be a way to deal with this though that doesn't involve the landlord risking going to court and whatnot, which most people can't afford to do and don't want to risk.

Warrant

By chicken on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 1:41pm.

Random raids, no. But they certainly could go to a judge. I doubt it would be hard to find probable cause.

If they had probable cause to

By AlertNewEngland on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 1:47pm.

If they had probable cause to obtain and execute a search warrant, they would have (and in all likelihood, probably have in the past). With narcotics, it can be pretty tricky, as you have to be able to tie the residents to the drugs specifically. Just searching and seizing some drugs and a few people doesn't certainly doesn't shut the house down. A lot of times, the people arrested aren't even residents, in which case, if you can't prove to a jury that they frequented the house and had knowledge of the drugs, they'll get acquitted.

Other charges though

By eeka on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:24pm.

Others here know more than I do about specifics, but I do know that the people on the lease (or even the people who are effectively controlling the unit) can be held responsible for who comes in and out of their place and what they're doing there. I've certainly seen this come into play in child welfare cases, and the parents charged with aiding and abetting and keeping an unwhatever house in addition to the child neglect charges. This gets slippery too of course, because we don't want people being charged if they, say, have someone in their house who they really didn't know had drugs on them, but come on, there are other charges that could be applied if it can be proven that this is a known drug house and that all sorts of mayhem is breaking out all the time.

Eeka you live in Roxbury. Do

By anon on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 10:17pm.

Eeka you live in Roxbury. Do you have any insight on what's going on over there?

Not really

By eeka on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:16pm.

I'm more than a mile from there. I can't picture the specific house.

I hope they figure it out and do something though. The neighbors of that house shouldn't have to deal with that kind of crap.

crime at 102

By anon on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 3:31pm.

Thanks for the info. If I am stupid enough to go near there its on me. Dispite some fools want to keep it a big surprise if I happen to go there.

Shot in the head in Roxbury

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