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Globe employees protest India and India protests right back

File this under "It's a small world, after all:" When the Boston Newspaper Guild takes out an ad in the Herald protesting Globe plans to outsource some jobs to Bangalore, one of the first responses is from Indian blogger Manish Vij:

... What's funny about this is that the same people protesting globalization also protest poverty. Yet at the same time they oppose building economically efficient orgs which help U.S. workers and the economy. And they oppose helping Bangaloreans who are objectively less wealthy. So for many, it's really an anti-modernity-if-it-takes-money-from-me movement. ...

Via Squaring the Boston Globe.

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I think Manish is American.

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Boston Globe to be Bangalored:

Outsourcing of jobs to India has been making news in the U.S for some time now. But what happens when the media which has been reporting this news finds the jobs of some of their colleagues are being outsourced?

Well, some Bostonians have been Bangalored, and they have gone ballistic. ...

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I'm not against all outsourcing, but we're talking here about customer service jobs in circulation and advertising for a local newspaper. Doing these jobs effectively requires knowledge of the locality that you can only get by living here.

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Ron,

You wrote that

"Doing these jobs effectively requires knowledge of the locality that you can only get by living here"

That is a judgment call, not a certainty. Furthermore cost, as well as service level, also enters into the decision.

My point is that outsourcing of particular business functions is fundamentally a business decision made by the management of the Globe (or perhaps of the NY Times Corporation).

I can't see how such a decision is your responsibility (or mine) to second guess, unless you are a NYTC manager or shareholder.

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Imagine trying to do customer service from Boston for a newspaper located in Bangalore. (Or Beijing, or Barcelona.) You don't know the names of any of the businesses, neighborhoods, or streets in that city. Sure, you'll gradually learn them on the job, but in the meantime the customers will suffer.

I don't see how "cost" is a legitimate issue here. Either these jobs will be done well, or they'll be done poorly. The Globe/NYT seems to have made the second choice. This is not a reflection on the skill level of Indians, just on the fact that the job requires detailed local knowledge.

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Ron,

I have lived within the home delivery regions of the NYTimes and the Boston Globe and have never found their circulation people to be deeply knowledgeable about local geography -- but they managed to be pleasant and helpful nonetheless. Your mileage may have differed.
"Account billing" is an accounting job -- not a sales job , nor a delivery job. Should papers not be delivered, accounts billing (whether in Bangalore, Boston, or anywhere in-between) is simply going to send notice through the proper corporate channels in order to get the problem fixed.
I am not saying that there isn't a convenience when the employees are local, nor that there isn't the possibility of improved performance due to communication via informal channels. But the notion that these jobs require substantial insight/information about local businesses does not seem obvious to me. Again, I am assuming that the accounts billing departments are distinct from the sales and delivery departments.
Moreover, nowhere does the placed ad suggest that local knowledge is vital -- probably because it isn't. The ad claims entirely reasonably that the senior employees had the experience to do a better job than their replacements, and then there's some cheap fearmongering about personal information being at risk because the acounting will take place in a foreign country. (I consider this fearmongering because there's no reason to believe that the same security protocols implemented in the US aren't implemented in India, nor is there any reason to believe -- beyond some degree of xenophobia -- that Indians are somehow more prone to identity theft. In fact, most of the big identity theft stories over the past few years have involved major corporations handling confidential information incompetently right on US soil.)
I do not expect outsourced employees to stand idly by while their jobs go overseas. But I think the "invaluable local knowledge" argument will not stand up to scrutiny.

Anon

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Who are these Bostonians who any sort of grasp of the whole city? I have very rarely met somebody who is from around here who understands more than their immediate area.

We had a friend coming to stay and she knew she had to cross a river soon. She stopped to ask directions and people told her that they had lived there many years, but didn't know which way it was to the river.

The crossing over the Mystic was three blocks away! There was a town boundary and neighborhood split (commuter rail line) between them. Really.

I have found that many people that have lived here all their lives have no concept of what is on the other side of the city - my husband's Weymouth buddies used to be pretty useless when even knowing how to get to New Hampshire via major roadways. Similarly, organizing a school event outside our town involves intensive turn-by-turn instructions to get five or ten miles away. I think it is an extension of an intensive lack of map reading and other-than-local history and geography instruction in this area (yes, I've asked people about it and most had an appalling lack of history and geography instruction).

Maybe it is because I'm a cyclist that I know the roads in many area towns. I find it strange that people can be some place and never explore, but geographic provincialism is the norm around here - even in places very nearby.

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You really should let people know you work for them when you post stuff about them.

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I think you just did, Oh Brave Anon.

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Privacy as a reason to not outsource? Remember, just last year the Boston Globe sent out it's subscribers credit card information as newspaper toppers. See rationaloutsourcing.blogspot.com/...privacy.html for details.

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