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Eastie getting snow salty
By adamg on Wed, 02/02/2022 - 2:51pm
Jaffejoe617 spotted this discarded note from a car parked in East Boston today.
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Collect the Space savers
I think the city should collect the space savers in a trash truck.
Agreed
And all the stuff they put out in the street as well
The people who complain about
The people who complain about space savers are the entitled people who have driveways at home. I don’t think people realize how much of a headache it is to having to park in a different neighborhood because non residents comes and take up parking.
I understand, we don’t own the street or the parking spot… but you have to understand that many houses don’t have driveways. We’re not claiming it because we spent hours shoveling, we’re claiming it because we don’t want non-residents to park here.
Most of the people who complain about space savers are the ones who wants to go into a bustling neighborhood to park their cars on a resident street so that they can go into a nearby restaurant or to park and ride into the city.
What?
Neighborhood parking is by neighborhood permit, is it not? Maybe it's different in Eastie. But non-residents aren't coming in and stealing shoveled spots, because they can't park there regardless of snow.
Resident parking ends at 6:00
Resident parking ends at 6:00 pm on my neighborhood/street. I live close by a mbta station that neighbors the outskirts of Boston. What happens is these non Bostonians or even different Boston residents will park their cars on our street to take train into city for the night. Parking on our street and taking the train into Boston is a cheaper alternative than to paying for a commuter line and or to pay for a parking garage. Anytime after 6 in my neighborhood is a free for all as resident parking is not enforced.
I guess parking is different for every neighborhood. But Boston needs to make all resident parking 24/7 during blizzards like these. If they don’t, I’m in favor of space savers. Again many people who complain about these are people with driveways or people who don’t live in a bustling neighborhood.
Residential Parking
Not all streets in the neighborhoods are posted for residential parking only. Jamaica Plain, for example, has streets near Stonybrook and Green Street T stops that people do come from somewhere else, park and get on the T.
Source: my eyeballs.
Those streets
also have plenty of cars that never get moved or shoveled out until spring because they're close enough to the T that residents don't actually need their cars.
Source: my eyeballs.
Not all works are accessible
Not all works are accessible by train and not everyone works in the city... the fact that residents cars that stay parked until spring is perfectly fine. But now residents who have no other option but to drive to work and can’t make it back until after resident parking ends are fighting for parking spots because someone from another neighborhoods doesn’t want to pay to park at a parking lot would rather park and ride into the city.
Source: common sense
Fair enough
But that's a problem beyond snow, and space savers have nothing to do with it.
People save spots not to take
People save spots not to take from others. We save spots so others won’t use a resident street as a free parking lot. Now add in the snow banks that takes up valuable parking spots, it becomes even severely limited.
Sorry if that sounds like a a-hole thing to say but it’s the truth. It’s a serious problem for residents whom live close by popular restaurants, bars or train stations. And for those who don’t understand are who have cars are people who a.) has a car but just for emergencies but doesn’t really drive, b.)has a drive way, c.) too cheap to want to pay for a parking lot.
You are C
You realize that, right? You’re saving spots because you’re too cheap to pay for parking.
Hmm.. sorry I don’t
Hmm.. sorry I don’t understand. How’s it fair to have residents to pay for parking near their own homes so that diners and travelers can park for free? Where I live, we don’t even have a public parking lot..
People who don’t realize the inconvenience are the people who don’t have to deal with this headache.
No we aren't
No we aren't.
No need to Dawnsplain.
No need to Dawnsplain.
I've lived in the city since the '90s and have owned a car for a good chunk of that time. I do not have a driveway. I accept the inconvenience of owning a car this time of year because my parents raised me to understand that I'm not special and that life is sometimes not fair.
I was raised the same way too
Then I became an adult in 21st century America, and realized that I can essentially do as I please, because the public generally tolerates abuse.
Apt Sextons
I sure hope you accept the convenience, too.
Otherwise what's the point?
To waste a lot of money?
To impress others?
If you were forced to be binary, it would be convenient.
I like your parents. I'm just bored.
Good.
The point of transportation is to go places where you don't live. Street parking is a great way to provide access to an area without turning it into strip mall parking lot sprawl.
You mad Bro?
You mad Bro?
Goes both ways
And what if the saved space prevents someone from pulling in for 15 minutes to pick up or bring home a resident who had surgery? Sometimes people need a ride to pull up to their house or close to it. They can't because an empty space has been claimed for 8 hours by someone who thinks that only their problems matter.
"recovering roommate"
i wonder how far they will have to carry him now that the parking spot is gone?
Poor things
They probably have to carry them 2 miles, uphill both ways, in the snow now.
A whole extra 5 feet
to their double-parked car.
barefoot.
barefoot.
Let's hope they wear masks...
As they carry him
48 hours.
It’s up. Kaput. Done and dusted. Why do we have so many mouth breathing idiots in this city?
wait
do we like space savers or not? i've been lucky enough to have a parking lot everywhere i've lived since moving here 10+ years ago. i lived in central MA before that so really, i have no clue.
We?
Depends on which 'we,' I guess.
But if you're in the South End, per current policy, I guess the answer is most accurately 'we do not.'
No
No.
If you survey registered users here, no
But if you get outside the bubble, most Bostonians are okay with the practice within reason. The morons who do it in July are, well, morons, but my rule is that if real effort goes into clearing the spot, you get it until it’s no effort to park in an unshoveled area.
When I parked on the street, I never put anything out, but then again I only used my car a few days a week and parking wasn’t an issue. I knew my neighbors, and they knew me, and we looked out for each other, so I was always able to return to my shoveled out spot.
my rule is that if real
I know, different conditions prevail in different neighborhoods and all that, but in increasing parts of the city, the time when it becomes "no effort to park in an unshoveled area" is "never".
Under what principle is it that spending half an hour in January shoveling out a space in entitles you to claim it for 3 days, but spending half an hour in July driving around looking for a space doesn't?
Taking more than you need of a scarce item in times of shortage is hoarding; it makes the situation worse for everyone. Dropping a chair into a space that you aren't using for your car at the moment is hoarding plain and simple.
Anything that reduces on street parking…
… is good.
Not after 6 AM today
You can't.
I still don't love Michelle Wu, but she won, and I enjoyed two days of being able to save a space, which was enough time to get to today's thaw. The best thing about democracy is that you still get to reap the fruits even if the person you voted against wins.
Politics???
https://mobile.twitter.com/marty_walsh/status/973325350703857664
The status quo remains unchanged. Was someone advocating for something different?
Hopefully once Mayor Wu has
Hopefully once Mayor Wu has had more time in office she will stop negotiating with lazy criminals and ban space savers. These selfish lard bodies still have their space savers out 5 days after the storm which is illegal in every which way. End this failure of a so called system that’s based on theft, threats, vandalism and littering.
Come on, dude
I'm trying to give you leeway after what you told us, but you'll have to explain to me what crime I or any Bostonian has committed in placing an object in the street.
Note: Civil offenses are not crimes.
You Have Free Reign To Put Stuff In the Street?
Awesome! Take your car and park it parallel to the street so traffic going either way can't get by. When the police come, explain that you aren't breaking any laws, we'll wait.
I mean
I'd be ticketed and towed. Civil offense.
I think
You meant to park perpendicular. Cars already park parallel to the street.
It's a non-starter, dude
Wu, and really anyone else that wants to get re-elected, isn't going jihad on space savers.
There's no percentage in it in most of the city.
South End got their way on it because it had popular support.
Savers arent going away until anti-saver councilors are elected and there's a broad consensus from the electorate and the elected to do so.
You're tilting at windmills (in the shape of traffic cones and lawn chairs.)
Wu doesn't need to ban them.
The city council already banned space savers in 2014. The past couple of mayors have established a practice of not enforcing this law after snowstorms. All Wu needs to do is stop the practice of not enforcing the law.
Wu once worked for Menino
And Menino put the policy into place (which was preceded by no real limits.)
I Wonder
"In Boston you can reserve a spot with chairs or markers". I wonder if these people know that only means while a snow emergency is in effect. What with the "roommate" and all, they sound like Millennial blow-ins rather seasoned veterans of the snow wars.
4 days after the storm
and 100’s of cars not cleaned off or moved. That’s a space saver.
When you give something away
When you provide something (e.g., storage space for automobiles) for less than it's worth (e.g., you give it away for free), it naturally leads to wasteful over-consumption (e.g., people using the streets to store cars that are rarely used)
Or maybe people who don't
Or maybe people who don't commute daily by car find it convenient to keep a car for the times they really need it, and it's not some kind of economic distortion that's causing it. There are plenty of uncleared cars in rented and residential building lots as well.
OK
Karen
Handwriting similar?
Is it me, or do several of the notes that have been pictured here on UHub, ostensibly from different neighborhoods, all seem to have the same handwriting made with the same pen?