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Stoneham screenwriter sues Warner Bros. over upcoming movie he says mirrors his own

Mike O'Dea yesterday filed a federal lawsuit against Warner Bros. over its plans for a movie called "The Ghostman," about a thief who evades the FBI, saying it infringes his trademark on a comic book and movie he is working on called "Ghostman" about a thief who evades the FBI.

In his suit, filed in US District Court in Boston, O'Dea says he has been working on his project since 2010, has a Web site to promote it and that Warner Bros. needs to knock it off, pronto.

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where a thief matches wits with the FBI. Even stupider than this guy appears to be is the lawyer who thinks Warner Brothers won't spend a boatload of money so that they don't have to give this putz a dime.

Our homegrown Scorsese has obviously never heard of any of the many crowd-sourcing sites available to aspiring young film makers, though I suspect that Mr. O'Dea's ego couldn't handle the rejection if he only made the buck two eighty I think he'd raise for such an original film.

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The parties are going to argue over whether O'Dea's "Ghostman" is original enough to warrant copyright protection. If so, they will then argue over whether WB had access/exposure to O'Dea's "Ghostman" and if the two scripts/productions/characters are substantially similar. If all of the above are found, O'Dea could "win" (a win might just mean that WB changes the name).

WB hasn't even answered the complaint yet and there has been no discovery so I would chill out with the insults and early conclusions.

Crowd-sourcing has nothing to do with this either.

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>so I would chill out with the insults and early conclusions.

And how are you enjoying your first day on the Internet? 8-D

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I might even "log-on" again.

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If this idiot didn't make it so easy. A quick glance at his Vimeo page shows that:

Ben Affleck stole the idea for "The Town" from him

He filmed a violent scene with a gun in a public park with no permits in broad daylight and only one handwritten sign to warn residents.

Also, his Facebook page this morning has a big picture of the ten million he's suing for.Along with a picture of a Porsche and two private jets that maybe he just got through waxing for someone?

If you look at the trailer for "Townies", you see a man whose chemistry with actors is rivaled only by some of our finest porn directors. Their line readings are similar!

Bottom line to me: if O'Dea had any talent, he wouldn't have to be suing Warner Brothers.

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Right off the bat there are some glaring errors in the complaint. For example, you can't copyright the title of a work. Nor can you copyright ideas or themes, which the author here is also trying to protect. And characters are iffy -- the more well defined they are, the more likely it is that it might be protected. But if the character is as ill defined as 'a masked thief' I wouldn't like my odds of success. You can't ordinarily trademark the titles of creative works either, though you may be able to if you've got a series of works; the comic book will be helpful for that... If it's been published, and preferably has multiple issues, and good evidence of secondary meaning can be shown.

tl;dr: I don't like his odds.

Also, I didn't see him mention that he registered his copyright with the Copyright Office, which is a necessary step in order to sue someone for copyright infringement. Registering with the WGA means nothing in that regard.

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You are correct that copyright does not protect general ideas or facts. However, it does protect the words, images, sounds, and any other "tangibly expressed" representations of an idea.

So:
- titles (eg, Iron Man III),
- character and place names (eg Sam Spade, Sesame Street),
- iconic appearance (eg, a red cape and blue bodysuit with a big "S" on the chest),
- dialog ("I feel the need, the need for speed!"),
- lyrics,
- computer code,
- et al distinct ceative works

...can all be covered by copyright. Even very distinct plot/characters have been found to be protected by copyright (eg "a young boy in present day England discovers that his parents were actually wizards and he is invited to attend a mysterious school for young mages", "A zany anthropomorphic rabbit with a New York accent pokes fun at a hunter and a duck").

All those examples above are real copyright protections that the courts have supported vs imitators. The title "Ghostman" as it applies to a very specific plot and character, and perhaps some of the dialog or scenes, might be similarly defensible.

Also, you got it wrong that copyrights need to be registered. It kind of used to be that way, way back in the day, but nowadays the law states that copyright protection is automatic. Although it is certainly useful to officially register work with the Copyright Office, it is not required to do so to gain copyright protection under US law. And copyright is immediate, as soon as the expression is fixed in tangible form. That is, it applies to drafts and completed works, both published and unpublished.

Finally, and I have no idea if this guy's stuff is any good or not (dvdoff seems to be grinding a bit of an axe wrt that), but the quality of the work has absolutely no bearing on the legal strength of copyright. Ie, really bad work is still subject to copyright protection, so long as it is creative.

Now, on the other hand, even if Mr. O'Dea can show that his Ghostman is original work and is covered by copyright, Warner Brothers can still try to show is that they did not know of or make use of anything that he created. And this is because creative works that are similar, but independently created, are individually subject to copyright protection (eg Shazam and Superman).

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Jeff, you are confusing copyright with trademark law in several cases you cite above.

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Well, I can only go by what they tell me.

Here is the US Copyright Office telling me that you cannot copyright a name or title: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ34.pdf

The US Patent and Trademark Office has section 1202.08 of the Trademark Manual of Examining Procedure, which tells me that "The title, or a portion of a title, of a single creative work must be refused registration under §§1, 2, and 45 of the Trademark Act, 15 U.S.C. §§1051, 1052, and 1127, unless the title has been used on a series of creative works." And then gets into the details of what does and doesn't qualify. The rationale tends to put the kibosh on trying the same thing for unregistered federal marks.

The appearance or other distinguishing characteristics of a fictional character may or may not be copyrightable, depending on just what they are. One of the seminal cases on that was Nichols v. Universal Pictures, and it tells me: "But we do not doubt that two plays may correspond in plot closely enough for infringement. How far that correspondence must go is another matter. Nor need we hold that the same may not be true as to the characters, quite independently of the "plot" proper, though, as far as we know, such a case has never arisen. If Twelfth Night were copyrighted, it is quite possible that a second comer might so closely imitate Sir Toby Belch or Malvolio as to infringe, but it would not be enough that for one of his characters he cast a riotous knight who kept wassail to the discomfort of the household, or a vain and foppish steward who became amorous of his mistress. These would be no more than Shakespeare's "ideas" in the play, as little capable of monopoly as Einstein's Doctrine of Relativity, or Darwin's theory of the Origin of Species. It follows that the less developed the characters, the less they can be copyrighted; that is the penalty an author must bear for marking them too indistinctly." (emphasis mine)

As for copyright registration, I never said that copyrights were not granted automatically (when they are granted). What I said was that you generally cannot sue for copyright infringement unless you have registered. Or at least, that's what 17 USC 411(a) tells me. (And section 412 tells me that some of the best remedies are reserved for people who registered in a timely fashion.)

Regarding the quality of the work, you're right that copyright and trademark don't care if the things they apply to are any good or not. (Trademarks do care about consistency, but consistently bad is fine) I wonder why you mentioned though, since I never said anything about it.

And lastly, while you're also right that independent creation is a valid way to attack a plaintiff's prima facie case of infringement (though it's hard to pull off in practice sometimes) there was a lawsuit in which DC, the publisher of Superman comics sued Fawcett, the publisher of Captain Marvel comics (Captain Marvel was the superhero who said Shazam to change from Billy Batson and back again, Shazam was the name of the wizard who gave him his powers). The gist of the suit was that the Captain Marvel books infringed on the Superman books. DC won, and that's why there were no Captain Marvel comics for a long time. Ironically, DC wound up buying the rights and revived the series themselves, but in the meantime, Marvel comics had taken the Captain Marvel trademark for a series of comic books, which is why modern DC comics featuring their Captain Marvel use different titles, like Shazam.

Anyway, good irony there, man.

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