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Parking Restrictions for Kennedy Funeral In Mission Hill Announced
By JosephPorcelli on Thu, 08/27/2009 - 5:30pm
No Stopping or Standing will be allowed at the following locations in Mission Hill on Saturday, August 29, 2009, beginning at 12:01 AM. The temporary parking restrictions will be in effect for the funeral of Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy.
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We're shutting down the city for a manslaughterer?
Fucking gross.
And before anybody jumps down my throat, I believe in treating people the way they wish to be treated. Mr. Kennedy did not view a person dying as a big deal, so that's how he should be treated now that he's dead.
You may not have liked the
You may not have liked the man's personal attributes, but referring to honoring someone who dedicated his life to public service and improving the country as "fucking gross" is tasteless.
And by the way, "manslaughterer" isn't a word.
Priorities
First of all, I love how you blithely respond to leaving a woman to die as a "personal attribute", as if it were on par with not holding a door or failing to cover one's mouth when coughing.
Let's say I become a senator someday. I draft legislation that ensures everybody has an affordable and competent doctor, sponsors the alternative fuel researcher that frees us from the shackles of the Middle East, and forces white-collar criminals into labor camps to pay back those they defrauded.
I then invite your sister on a deer hunting trip. I drink too much Jack, shoot her in the head, then flee the woods and leave her to bleed to death. What would be your opinion of me? Serious question.
If the city wants to have a ceremony for Ted Kennedy, fine. But I'd be henshit if it came at the expense of where I park. Hell, why does it have to be in Mission Hill anyway? Why can't it be at Gillette Stadium? They hold 70,000...have it down there.
it's at the basilica...
... because the church had special meaning for him. it's where he prayed when his daughter had cancer. and it's where he wanted it to be.
so while he was a pats fan in life, i am not sure a funeral at gillette stadium would hold the same meaning for him in death.
What'd he do?
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Lady Killer
Sort of does/doesn't have the right connotations to it.
I do agree with some of what Whitey says here, though: the man killed somebody through negligence and cowardice and used his wealth and privilege to escape the sort of consequences - like jail - that an everyman would have experienced in a similar situation. I don't think that can be glossed over or brushed away so blithely.
I certainly wasn't meaning
I certainly wasn't meaning to sound as if it was something to be glossed over, rather, distinguishing a line between his moral failings and political achievements.
People do not pour out their
People do not pour out their emotions over political achievements alone. I am not sure if Kennedy would be getting this attention if he were not personable and if he were not a Kennedy.
While I personally believe he did not do anything malicious he was negligent and I do feel that, looking back now, he may have been left off the hook easy at the time. As time passed journalistic accords changed and he got more attention for it after the fact. I do feel that Kennedy would have been better off if his family just allowed a full investigation and maybe a more stringent enforcement of his negligence so he could leave it behind him later on. Quite a bit of the anger we see is over the cover up rather then the "crime" and if they just let it play out I think life would have been easier for him.
And, in the end if life were
And, in the end if life were easier for him, would he have become the same man?
You can't truly say, but I'd say not.
lots of assumptions in two sentences, so I'll add some of my own
1) How do you know the senator didn't "view a person dying as a big deal"? How do you know he didn't struggle with guilt and remorse every day of his life for the past 40 years?
2) Supposing you did, in fact, somehow cause another person's death (G-d forbid), and that for whatever reason, you were set free to live your life. Would you disappear from society, or would you do your damndest to make your life worth something in attempts at reparation?
3) Bay Staters kept electing the man. What does that say about the value society in general (at least in this state) places on a human life?
4) That all said, who are we to judge? Whether or not you personally belief in an afterlife and eternal justice, Kennedy is far beyond human opinion now.
one final point
You don't live in Mission Hill. Or Roxbury. How's about letting those of us who do live in the area and will actually be affected by any of this be the ones with opinions on the parking situation?
Personally, I'm a lot more irritated with National Gridspan for suddenly posting signs yesterday that our street's going to be parking-free for the next two months, no prior notice or explanation. I realize that's their right, but it would have been nice to know about a bit earlier.
And if he had gone to jail?
Millions (yes, millions) in this country would have died earlier than necessary from lack of healthcare and medical options. That's also ignoring all those who were able to afford healthcare with improved minimum wages, opportunities to come here as immigrants, and improved civil rights for just about every group you can think of.
So, since you don't actually know what exactly happened the night he had his accident that left Kopechne dead...weighed against the benefits his hundreds of legislative acts have created for all of us...I think you're just happy you don't actually have to critically think about anything your saying and just spew your hate from your hip.
Exactly. Tis better to
Exactly.
the internet is a might big soapbox to speak from.
Lack of healthcare
The world is overpopulated. I don't view lack of access to healthcare as a problem. Ted Kennedy gets no credit from me for that.
healthcase isn't simply about overpopulation...
it's not necessarily about helping people live longer (although it's a side-effect that i personally hope for). it's also about living better.
a healthier population helps the whole country. it lowers everybody's costs and it makes us more productive as a society.
but you're probably just hoping that killing off the sick would allow for more parking and less traffic on mission hill.
Easy to solve, you first
If you get sick, don't use the healthcare system. You wouldn't want to hypocritically maintain overpopulation, would you?
Also do the rest of us a favor and if you ever find a girl dumb enough to love you, make sure you don't have kids. You wouldn't want to contribute to the problem, would you?
Finally, you could always be proactive about it and reduce the overpopulation by one just by using one of your much-loved guns on yourself. Gotta start somewhere if the problem is going to be solved, right?
Oooh...
...you went there!
I'll bite
1) I don't use health services now. But if I get sick, then yes, I will use MY MONEY that I EARNED by WORKING to pay for it.
2) Not sure how I feel about children...but it's not overpopulating if I have one.
3) I don't actually own a gun, but I see no reason to kill myself.
Wow, you ARE a tard!
I'm going to use that super-mature-and-classy word to describe you too, because, well, it does.
How much money do you have in savings? When I worked for a brain-injury rehab, the average bill was close to a million dollars per year. A lot of young, healthy students and young professionals ended up in our center after car accidents, aneurysms out of the blue, carbon monoxide poisoning, heart defects they didn't know about that cut off oxygen to their brain before they were found.
I'm guessing you're also one of those deluded sorts who doesn't like to pay for the police department or the fire department or schools or any of those other things your me-me-me ass doesn't use. Care to weigh in?
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Taxes
I want to have cops in case I get robbed, firefighters in case my house catches fire, and schools so that people who work for me some day are capable of doing math and speaking proper English. I gladly pay to have those resources at the ready. These are all public resources, and I'm happy to have them (although I actually don't care all that much for most public schools, but that's a different conversation.)
A million dollars for brain injury rehab? I'd rather take a cyanide pill and let my brother inherit my $50,000 net worth to pay for his student loans...but that's just me.
you-you-you
I see...so it's only YOUR house, YOUR property and YOUR employees that matter to you.
Again, this explains so much. Why not just hire your own personal cop and firefighter to protect your stuff?
Anyway, suppose it's not a brain injury or anything that will affect your cognitive function...suppose it's a spinal cord injury (again, G-d forbid).
What Do Spinal Cord Injuries Really Cost?
* Length of initial hospitalization following injury in acute care units: 15 days
* Average stay in rehabilitation unit: 44 days
* Initial hospitalization costs following injury: $140,000
* Average first year expenses for a SCI injury (all groups): $198,000
* First year expenses for paraplegics: $152,000
* First year expenses for quadriplegics: $417,000
* Average lifetime costs for paraplegics, age of injury 25: $428,000
* Average lifetime costs for quadriplegics, age of injury 25: $1.35 million
* Percentage of SCI individuals who are covered by private health insurance at time of injury 52%
* Percentage of SCI individuals unemployed eight years after injury 63%. (Note: unemployment rate when this article was written was 4.7%)
(source: http://www.sci-info-pages.com/facts.html)
I also found this on wikianswers:
"I was in the emergency room last week in the Seattle Area, for severe stabbing pains in my stomach and my body was shaking and wouldn't stop in the middle of the night (my son drove me -vs- 911 as we live about 2miles from the hospital).. here was the cost break down for 6hrs ... $2000 for the ER visit $3500 for the CAT Scan blood tests etc. the total cost from the hospital was $6500 (or over $1000 an hour) from the hospital bill."
Now, I'm not sure how Boston costs compare to Seattle, but supposing you need the ER like that (once more, G-d forbid)...do you have $6500 to spare?
It was like $20,000
...when I injured my hand in an accident. Minorish injury too, but required a lot of different docs to assess nerves, arteries, tendons, ligaments, etc., then anesthesia and hand surgery to fix an artery and a tendon. I was home about 6 or 7 hours after I arrived too, so no admission except for to the OR. I think the ambulance ride down the street to Longwood was about $500 itself.
Inflated healthcare costs aside, I don't mind that anesthesia costs so much. Hell, pay them more. I want anyone who's charged with making me unconscious and then conscious again to be very skilled, extremely up to date on trainings, and very happy in their job. :o)
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Don't bother. He's a self
Don't bother.
He's a self made man! Never used any of those socialist sponsored government programs, nothing tell you! Built from the ground up! He doesn't care that heath care expenses are growing bigger and bigger and cutting into corporate profits and making them less competitive with foreign nations. He's on his own, and he's done it all himself, taxes are an absolute evil, and we should all run from evil government.
Sad thing is, I bet Mr. Willy has directly benefited numerous times from Bills directly sponsored and co-sponsored by Senator Kennedy. Ahh, ignorance is bliss for the ignorant.
You vote in 04? Because if you did, thank Kennedy. Any thoughts of higher education?
Taxes are not evil
I pay for what I use.
I voted in '04, and was disgusted that my vote for John Kerry was not a winning one.
I'm not a college guy.
point missed
I believe you're missing the point, possibly deliberately, that you would probably have been too young to vote in '04 if not for Ted Kennedy's work on the Voting Rights Act.
I was 20
for the 2004 election, and turned 21 a week later.
Therefore
You wouldn't have been able to vote in 2004 had it not been for the 26th amendment.
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Fine by me
In retrospect, I should have known that Bush was going to trounce that pussy Kerry (for whom I voted.) My vote would have hardly mattered, kinda like when I voted for McCain this year, because this state was determined to put Obama in office.
OK, fine by you...
But what about all the other 18-20-year-olds who like that they have the opportunity to vote, even if their candidate loses?
Oh wait, those are OTHER people, and therefore not worthy of your notice.
Honestly
I think the voting age should be 25.
Really?
Why? This is a serious question; I'm curious. And as long as I'm wondering, what do you think about the draft age (I know, there hasn't been a draft for a long time), the driving age, and the drinking age?
not even that i disagree
I mean, the older I get, the older I think minimum ages should be for everything too, but that's me being cranky.
Because people under 25 are
Because people under 25 are idiots. Trust me, I used to be one of them.
Draft age - Eliminate it. Just keep telling people "if you go to war for us, you go to college without paying for it." That actually seems to work.
Driving age - 16, because our public transit sucks. If it were any good, I'd say 18 in the city, 16 in rural areas.
Drinking age - 18
logical inconsistency
I'm pretty sure just about everybody here either used to be under 25 or is currently under 25. I don't recall turning 25 and becoming magically smarter. Anyway, I don't think such a blanket statement is going to win you many points...we all know 21-year-olds who should be in office and 60-year-olds who shouldn't be allowed near a voting booth.
But the logical inconsistency is between your first statement and your opinion that the drinking age should be 18. So you want idiots to have MORE access to alcohol, which tends to make people of all ages idiots?
I'd rather have an 18-year-old...or anybody...driving while listening to NPR to inform themselves on the issues than driving while trashed, legally or not.
(Incidentally, while the MBTA has plenty to complain about, I come from places where the public transportation is buses that maybe run once an hour and stop at 6PM, so I still think the T is pretty good most of the time.)
I believe
Alcohol is like sex: People are going to get it whether you like it or not, so the best course of action is to make sure people engage in both responsibly.
Dads should teach their 13 year olds how to consume alcohol properly in their homes, so that when they finish high school at 18, they enter the world with the right to purchase it and consume it in proper moderation.
y-chromosome required?
not that necessarily agree with you, but why can't mom's teach their kids how to drink?
Because
they can't handle their alcohol as well as men can. They weigh less and are more emotionally sensitive.
I work in bars, I know these things.
not touching this one with a ten foot pole.
which is good. i might break a nail if i tried. or break down crying.
Will never lets reality get in his way
observation of people in bars > scientific research showing that gender of parent(s) plays no role in parenting style or parenting effectiveness
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Also
Clearly you can tell what chromosomes someone has by seeing them in a bar. What.
nah, he doesn't just *see* them in bars.
he watches them play trivia.
so you can tell the girls because they answer all the entertainment and astrology questions, while the boys answer all the sports and math questions!
~snort~
You deride me
...but that's generally true.
in teams?
Stump trivia is in teams; how can you tell who's actually answering what?
(For the record, last time we played, our all-female team kicked ass answering all types of questions.)
The same way he can tell what chromosomes people have
Duh.
oh, right
Can we bring Amiee to stump trivia sometime? That should throw 'im.
Please do
I'm at the Aquarium at 6. Come on by!
can't tonight
We have other commitments, but maybe another time.
but
Math is so haaaaard!
(obThat'sWhatSheSaid)
likes likker better than me?
Oh, I've known some women I would put up against men any day in the alcohol-handling. I don't actually disagree that alcohol responsibility should be taught in the home, if alcohol is to be consumed at all (not everybody drinks, y'know). So I guess kids of single mothers and of dykes don't get to learn how to drink. Pity.
Will only deals in generalizations, e.g. ALL under-25-year-olds are idiots, ALL of Boston is closed tomorrow rather than one small part of one neighborhood and ALL men can handle their liquor better than ALL women. It's an easy worldview, really; requires little thought.
I'm a girl, so perhaps my
I'm a girl, so perhaps my math is wrong, but if Will turned 21 in November 2004, would not he be 25 right now? Of course 25 is the age of brilliance! Apparently you can stop learning at 25. I should tell my boss my brain is full - I'm too old to keep thinking critically.
Well if that's not a
Well if that's not a pseudonym name, then google tells me you voted at the age of 20. Give Kennedy some props for making that happen.
Not going to run down the complete list, but I bet there's much more you and you family have benefited from that he fought hard for.
Life's complicated, and Ted was different then you and I.
I do
But I'd also like to have a cyanide pill so that I have the option of killing myself instead of paying the $6,500.
why cyanide?
Why not whiskey and benzos in the woods in midwinter?
If you can't be bothered to care about anyone but yourself, why should anyone else care enough about you to provide you with a cyanide pill?
ETA: Why not just get your own cyanide pill?
I would also like him to get his own damn
...emergency response team, medical examiner, and morgue, because I don't want my money, which is for me, to be used to go out and investigate and follow through when someone finds a dead tard in the woods. Ooh, maybe we could just issue GPS bracelets to people who aren't able to play well with others, and then if one is dead in the woods or trapped in a burning house or something, they'd just be able to be like "don't bother; he's tagged!"
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Don't forget the road
Don't forget the road they'll use to transport his body. The laws passed to protect him and his family, and even the clothing he's laid to rest in that was made possible because ultimately the infrastructure used to get it to him was created by the government, then used by private corporations.
one thing that always gets me about these do it aloners is they don't realize were all in this grand experiment together. They'd rather keep all the benefits, but ignore the costs.
wait, what?
So...you'd rather kill yourself...than go to the ER for something that may be easily treated?
I had a co-worker who had similar symptoms to those posted by the Seattle person I cited...severe nausea, shakiness, weakness. She went to the ER. Turned out she was severely dehydrated, and that was the only thing wrong with her. Would you have killed yourself instead of finding out you just needed to be on an IV for a couple hours?
Depends on how I feel
I think I'd have to actually be in the scenario to give you the right answer.
hey will, in all seriousness...
... you might want to think about upping those therapy appointments.
i am actually a wee bit concerned at your lack of value on your own life.
i can totally see wanting to end your life if you are facing something painful, hard, or outside your means.
but you should have some sort of general regard for your own life. and i don't know what the cut off is, but i would like to think you value it above $6500.
Beat me to it
I think what Will says about having to wait until he's in that situation is pretty reasonable though. There've been studies done where a fairly high percentage of people say they wouldn't want to live if they acquired paraplegia, acquired the need to be on a ventilator, etc. But then once these things happen and you're actually still yourself and still wanting to do what you do, really very few people say they don't want to go on living. The percentage right after the accident is much lower than the people who hypothetically said they'd want to die, and then nearly everyone goes on to accept that things change, we're still who we are, and we find new ways to be in the world.
Not Dead Yet has some good links to such studies. They're looking to use these figures to illustrate that since a very very small percentage of people who are still verbal after such an accident say they want to die, it's pretty likely that the people who can't tell us what they want probably don't want to die either, even if they said earlier in life that they'd rather die than use a wheelchair or a ventilator.
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I regard my own life
But I'm also ambivalent.
I've never had a fire in my
I've never had a fire in my house. Where do I file for my fire tax refund?
very interesting insight into your character
So, if I'm reading this correctly, your opinion is that those who don't have access to health care, whether due to poor education, lack of finances, lack of transporation, or other reasons, deserve to suffer and/or die?
A few years ago, my father needed quintuple bypass surgery. Yes, most of it was covered by his employer, but if they hadn't had that insurance, the cost would have been in the hundreds of thousands of dollars; my parents are comfortable, but hardly wealthy. Is my father who's worked at the same company for 35 years more valuable than someone else's father who may have worked somewhere for the same number of years but been laid off without benefits?
(OK, he's more valuable to ME, but that's to be expected.)
I'm glad not everybody thinks the same way you do. I'm willing to bet that somebody you care about is either uninsured or underinsured and wouldn't be able to pay for care for an emergency or a chronic health condition.
Who's covering your health care costs?
They don't deserve to suffer
But I don't feel anybody else should be FORCED to pay for another person's care.
If anybody in my family is sick and needs help with medical bills, I'll lend them some money. I am capable of doing that without Blue Cross or Harvard Pilgrim or any of these other racketeers taking a cut off the top.
I don't believe anybody should die a painful death, but I do feel that cyanide pills should be made more readily available to persons who don't wish to suffer. In 50 years, we'll look back on Jack Kevorkian as a medical pioneer.
assisted suicide has nothing to do with compassionate care.
i agree with you that we should allow people to die with dignity at their own choosing.
but that's a far cry from you deciding that i should send my mama out on the ice floe because she has stage four lung cancer and doesn't have the money to pay for the inflated cost of her treatment.
health insurance is a mess. health care is a mess. but that doesn't mean that we should give up on the poor, the sick, or those who don't have your obvious substantial funds.
should you want to pass some of your moolah to me, i will tell my mom to scratch her health insurance in a heartbeat.
'till then, i think we'll keep it.
Your mother
Tell me more about her scenario:
-Does she wish to continue treatment?
-What is the exact dollar amount that she needs to pay for treatments?
-Is she too sick to travel to another country where she might get the care for a lower price?
my mothers treatment is outside your means.
given what you have mentioned already, the cost of her medication alone would tap your savings in a year.
she's doing fine, though, right now. and she has excellent health insurance and excellent doctors. so i think we'll stick with our current plan.
Excellent health insurance
Good. I'm glad that her labor bore her some fruit.
From other paying for
From other paying for it?
You do know how insurance works right? You do know the drag on the economy, society, and you a sick population would create, right?
Sorry, but you don't live in the fantasy bubble you believe you live in. Might I suggest reading up on game theory? Doubling down, while a human response, just punishes everyone in the end.
Yes, from others paying for it
Who did so VOLUNTARILY by taking jobs in which health insurance was part of the compensation package.
So overpopulation is no
So overpopulation is no longer your issue? You just want to be stingy about who gets to live and who doesn't. You want to play God by virtue of your tremendous financial success. Okay, at least we know where you are coming from in this conversation, and can give your statements the proper attention they deserve.
Tremendous financial success
I should point out that 40% of my worth is due to having won a substantial horse racing wager earlier this year. I'm not Daddy Warbucks, but I'm doing alright.
So your previous statement
So your previous statement about earning your wealth was just bullshit? We should all play the lottery to find out who deserves health care? Go back to your bridge, Will.
Will's previous statement:
I think I see the logic here...
If the answer to social security reform is privatizing it and putting ALL of our retirement savings in the equity markets, then the solution to health care financing is gambling at the race track.
Math
What part of 40% eluded you? I worked for the other 60%.
And seeing as how horse racing features an element of skill, I'd say in part that, yes, I earned my win.
So this is not about
So this is not about Chappaquidick at all? This is about Will LaTulippe teabagger anti-health care reform? You don't go for those posters with a Hitler mustache on Obama and swastikas, do you?
You're self-insured for health care costs? Good luck to you.
Depends on what the costs are
If I break my arm and the cost to fix it is $4,000, I can write a check right now.
If I get cancer and the cost to fix it is $100,000, I'd need to raise funds.
as long as you mention cancer...
You do realize, don't you, that cancer requires more than a one-time fix, and that most cancers need treatment begun as soon as they're diagnosed? Tumors aren't gonna wait around for you to make sure you have the funds to do the chemo/radiation/surgery; they'll cheerfully metastize while you're betting on the horses, or whatever else you do for a living (other than trivia).
Do you actually know anything about health care costs? Because your estimates are amazingly low. Do you see your doctor regularly? How much is an office visit?
Ooh, there's a thought
How about requiring yearly physicals for everyone? It wouldn't be much different from requiring, say, car inspections, on the premise that your car needs to have been looked at by a mechanic recently if it's going to be out where it could harm innocent people.
A lot of jobs require yearly physicals, because they don't want people going around either with something contagious that's infecting other people, or going around with decreased stamina and cloudy thinking without realizing it and causing an accident. I wouldn't mind this being extended to the general population. I know physicals don't catch everything, and healthy people certainly can have a sudden catastrophic illness, but it would at least up the chances that the person driving my cab isn't about to have a diabetic attack and crash the thing. We'd of course let people pick the theoretical orientation of the physician they see and all that, but it would need to be a licensed physician who holds the general belief of offering treatment to treatable illnesses.
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Answers
1) I'm not an expert on health care costs. I know they're beyond the means of many.
2) I see two medical professionals: the eye doctor every year, and my shrink every other month. I pay the latter $75 out of my pocket for each visit, because my racketeer won't pay for any of it. My racketeer also covers an eye exam every 24 months, so I had to pay out of pocket for it this year as well.
3) I host and write trivia as a full-time profession. Horseplaying is a hobby (albeit one that is currently profitable.)
no dentist?
Just FYI, you might want to toss a dental visit in there every so often...I don't have dental insurance; I often need crowns, and each crown is $800-$1000. Dental work is ridiculously expensive, but if you catch things early, you can minimize the work needed. And I go to the dentist every year at the minimum (although stuff usually breaks before that, thank you genetics).
meant to reply to this earlier
"But I don't feel anybody else should be FORCED to pay for another person's care."
I kind of do. To me, it's part of living in society. If I pay so someone else can have health care, that's part of my responsibility to care for those less fortunate than myself. I take advantage of roads, public transportation, libraries and yes, health care, none of which I pay for completely on my own, but I'm glad they're there.
"If anybody in my family is sick and needs help with medical bills, I'll lend them some money. I am capable of doing that without Blue Cross or Harvard Pilgrim or any of these other racketeers taking a cut off the top."
It's great that YOU can do that. Many people can't. You saw eeka's post about the $20K hospital bill for her hand injury, right? Since we don't have $20K lying around anywhere, what else should we have done but use our health insurance?
Adam, can we get an IP ban
Adam, can we get an IP ban on this tard finally?
As I said in another comment, anyone that see's Kennedy's life as starting and ending with Chappaquiddick is a very sad, sad soul. It says more about them, then it does Kennedy who worked a lifetime trying to atone for his sins, and had done some very great things for people, not because he had to, but because he could and should.
Also love how, in the interest of being fair, it's now "Manslaughter", not "MURDER"! Right buddy, why don't you go find a bike thief to shoot asshole. Maybe you'll fall on your gun while you're at it.
A more measured, and correct view on it would be something like Clive Crook.
yes, this
As someone who grew up in the Midwest post-JFK and RFK, I'm finding it absolutely fascinating how it seems that most people are either lionizing or vilifying Ted Kennedy.
Those who vilify do so almost entirely on the basis of Chappaquiddick and ignore the rest of his life. Those who lionize do so almost entirely on the basis of the rest of his life and ignore Chappaquiddick.
Very few people seem to see the man as a complete human being. I'm sure everybody posting, in this thread and everywhere else, has done good and bad things. I don't think any of us would want to be judged solely on the bad things, nor do I think it would be accurate to judge only on the basis of the good we've done, as much as we might prefer it.
But since Kennedys in general seem to do everything on a grander and more public scale than most of the rest of us, I guess it's not surprising that there's not much room for grey areas.
Much more somber, but
Much more somber, but Another good read that doesn't gloss over it.
Will, take note.
"IP ban on this tard?"
What a thoughtful intelligent sentence. I'm also shocked that you posted that anonymously.
Don't you have some people
Don't you have some people to shoot, or criminals to "bang".
No
Because I don't own a firearm.
It's not clear
you've established authority to comment of other people's intelligence.
By Will LaTulippe | Fri, 08/28/2009 - 12:40pm
What a thoughtful intelligent sentence...
What a thoughtful AND intelligent sentence
Better?
I'm not posting anonymously
And I think you're an annoying fucktard.
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Licensed mental health counselor?
Do you call your clients annoying fucktards as well? My therapist doesn't talk to me like that.
Only behind your back.
Only behind your back.
Ah, you can read
I'm not at work right now.
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Shes not your therapist, is
Shes not your therapist, is she?
sheesh
Well, you're not eeka's client. eeka doesn't talk to her clients, her friends, her family or her colleagues like that either. In fact, you have to be a pretty damn annoying fucktard for her to call you that.
therapy
Will is a pretty unhappy guy. He prefers negative attention to no attention at all. Those two reasons explain his posts on this thread.
He thought he could make himself feel better by shitting on Ted Kennedy. Since then, he's been fielding lots of questions about himself, his motives, and his values and demonstrating a surprisingly dispassionate self-image, as if he's stuck with himself as his is.
I wouldn't expect Will to take my advice but I'll put it out there just the same. Will might feel better about himself if he spent some time during the day helping another person with something they needed help with and that he can do well. One's things for sure, shitting on other people, over whom you hold some alleged moral high ground, will not make you feel better about yourself.
I was thinking something similar
Volunteer work is a great way to get a person thinking about what he or she can do to make the world better instead of just complaining. Google "volunteer boston" and there's just tons of opportunities. Will, maybe you could volunteer as a literacy tutor; you do write well, and I bet your trivia background would make you think of learning sources most people wouldn't think of.
making your peace with Ted
40 years ago Ted Kennedy delivered the eulogy for his brother Bobby in Saint Patrick's cathedral in Manhattan. I heard it recently and I was moved by his words. You can hear it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9JTYnMpRyg
Ted was involved in an accident where his drinking was an issue and the accident left Mary Jo Kopechne dead. She had been a campaign worker for Ted's brother Bobby.
Contempt for the unjust privilege due to wealth and power that allowed Ted to avoid accountability for his actions is entirely reasonable. That privilege was granted by Massachusetts law enforcement, the local DA and whoever else abetted it. Be mad at Ted for the accident. Be mad at officials who looked the other way for the lack of accountability. (We have now a similar situation, a torture regime conducted under Cheney and the CIA, Will we insist the AG Holder fully investigates and holds accountable people who violated domestic law and international treaties by torture our prisoners?)
Ted and the Kennedy Family made their peace with the Kopechne Family. Since that time, Ted has done his level best to make the US a better place, a more compassionate country that looks after it's own. His record in the Senate is unparalleled in terms of productive legislation that has a wide effect on the American people.
I hope that people who hold anger in their hearts for Ted's role in Mary Jo Kopechne's death can make their peace with Ted now that he has passed.
Nice
Really well spoken. Thanks for posting that.
And this as well.
Amein.
Thanks
eeka and Molly. I must have listened to the eulogy five times. It gets me every time.
Please note Will LaTulippe
Please note Will LaTulippe has turned a thread about "Parking Restrictions for Kennedy Funeral In Mission Hill..." into
I would also like to note that Will LaTulippe has made other inappropriate comments including his desire to fuck the subject of another thread here.
all we need to know about Tulips
http://www.myspace.com/triviahostwill
Oh Christ
I haven't updated that in years. MySpace is sooooo 2006. Y'all gotta check my Facebook page for the real scoop on me.
WOW only 25 years old? I
WOW only 25 years old? I expected a senior citizen... no offense?
None taken
But I'm surprised. Was it the horseplaying that threw you off?
It was the view points and
It was the view points and matter of expression, you sound quite a bit like an older relative of mine.
Ah, Grandpa Cletus
How is that old coot doing these days?
You don't know the half of
You don't know the half of it, I have more Grandpa Cletus's then I know what to do with.
BTW , way to show your face
BTW , way to show your face , using an anon name to post his myspace page. This may not be my real name but at least I've been using the same name over and over so people have some clue who is kicking them in the back.