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This is completely normal: Black Republican running against Ayanna Pressley calls for her hanging

Donnie Palmer, running again as a Republican against incumbent US Rep Ayanna Pressley, says she should be executed by hanging for treason and that he'd be happy to put the noose around her neck himself.

Both Palmer and Pressley are Black, but Palmer fully supports Trump. Pressley's hanging crimes are so obvious he doesn't have to spell them out, of course, but they apparently have something to do with leading Black progressive women, whom he calls morons, around by the nose:

Palmer calls for Pressley's execution for treason

In 2022, Pressley defeated Palmer by an 85-15 margin.

In 2021, Palmer came in 15th out of 17 in the preliminary for one of four at-large seats on the Boston City Council. He did beat out fellow hater Roy Owens, at least.

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This is outright terrorism.

I hope the AG is listening to this and takes appropriate action.

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the subjunctive mood brings it out of the true threat area and into the realm of political rhetoric

Watts v. United States, 394 U.S. 705 (1969), in which a speaker at a Vietnam War protest said he'd put LBJ in his rifle sights if he was drafted is the case on point here.

We do not believe that the kind of political hyperbole indulged in by petitioner fits within that statutory term. For we must interpret the language Congress chose
"against the background of a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials."
New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U. S. 254, 376 U. S. 270 (1964). The language of the political arena, like the language used in labor disputes, see Linn v. United Plant Guard Workers of America, 383 U. S. 53, 383 U. S. 58 (1966), is often vituperative, abusive, and inexact. We agree with petitioner that his only offense here was "a kind of very crude offensive method of stating a political opposition to the President." Taken in context, and regarding the expressly conditional nature of the statement and the reaction of the listeners, we do not see how it could be interpreted otherwise.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/394/705/

Once again we see "liberals" here ranting about punishing political rhetoric. If you want to reply to me, please do so with a Supreme Court case citation and not just your feelings.

I don't make the law, Supreme Court did.

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either, but you did choose it.

Stay smug, its the one skill you can count on.

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« I will personally tie the noose » which advocates imminently lawless action unprotected by the First Amendment.

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That they should be convicted, only charged and then hanged.

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When you know enough to quote cases but not enough to know that the SC does not make law.

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to Miranda, Mapp, Griswold, Roe AND Dobbs, and many others including our own late great John Hurley.

Keep joking kiddies

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Appealing to Wacko Hurley, you know you've lost the serious people.

Keep clowning.

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and established a constitutional principle.

9-0 ruling. And what have you done?

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The Supreme Court passed that law which allowed the Germans to bomb Pearl Harbor.

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did Wacko help enshrine that Palmer is enjoying? Sounds like you're just tossing 1A cases at the wall hoping something will stick.

And at any rate, if Donnie Palmer is the type of person you want as your political bedfellow you're welcome to him. Everyone knows what kind of a person he is and if that's who you want to represent you, enjoy what you get. Really.

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of state non-interference in the content of civil society expressive events has little or nothing to do with Palmer.

I'm just answering the person who ignorantly said "the Supreme Court does not make law."

the case exactly on point is Watts, which I quoted from above. Do you have problems following a comment thread?

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The SCOTUS does not make law, it interprets law. Keep flailing, lobbing gratuitous insults, and spouting off irrelevancies though. You're a representative Bay State Republican from all I've ever been able to tell. Congratulations! :-D

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or even learn in high school civics what a "common law" jurisdiction is. Lots of law is made by judges, including the Supreme Court.

Indeed, the power of the Supreme Court to "interpret" what the Constitution says comes for a Supreme Court case, Marbury v. Madison. It's not in the text of the Constitution.

I grow weary of educating.

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SCOTUS doesn't make law, full stop, that is not its job, period.

You know, it's a shame that you didn't die of covid.

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I can't say I've seen many comments lately by deselby that I've agreed with but don't you think you are taking it just a little over the line in this reply?

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As far as I'm concerned, the Trump hankering for a second Civil War has been met. I'm okay with another 500,000 of them dead.

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I hope you’re proud of yourself.

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Try being civil to a Donnie Palmer or a dselby for that matter and see what it gets you.

You kill bullies. You don't ask them politely to stop bullying you.

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Kill bullies? I take it back. You’re way worse than Trump.

@adamg, I appreciate that you normally let things work themselves out, but these posts are way over the line.

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Let’s negotiate with these terrorists
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Maybe start with your transbigoted misogyny and work from there with the education.

You are absolutely wrong here.

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to reply with a Supreme Court citation to support your opinion.

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,,, for colonial and then state criminal and civil law, very few bits and pieces of that common law have not been replaced by legislation. In the federal system, there was not really much in the way of such English common law to start with. Sometimes people loosely use "common law" as a substitute for case law -- but almost all such case law is based on interpretation of regulations, statutes and constitutional provisions -- not on extension of long-ago common law doctrines (whose sole legal basis was case law precedent).

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and "case law" IS law.

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...for almost 40 years, Did lots of appeals and hundreds of oral arguments in court.

Of course "case law is law". But case law interpreting the Constitution, statutes and regulations is different from actual "common law" -- which existed independent of legislation of any sort. In theory, construing enacted laws (and the like) requires one to honor the wording (and intention) of those laws. Not really sure what you think you are trying to prove....

You obviously didn't go to law school

You obviously didn't either.

I grow weary of educating.

We grow weary of your pretense of being educated and having a command of facts. Go chase a car or something.

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“he said she should be charged, then hanged”

nice use of the passive voice there. because your bullshit falls apart if you quote the man correctly, am i right?

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Just fuck off with a high speed eggbeater. You are so full of shit.

Oh, and learn to read, dear. He said he'd tie the noose himself.

Take your racist, transbigoted misogyny elsewhere.

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Doesn't sound like due process to me.

I'm no liberal, by the way. I'm a socialist.

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Will no one rid Palmer of this turbulent Representative?

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'Nuff said.

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N/t

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But what does n/t mean?

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As in, nothing else to add.

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N/t

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Best one ever was Huey calling the FBI after 9/11 to give the names of people who had given arms to Afghanistan.

"The first one is Reagan. That's R-E-A -- hello?"

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Pretty cool how we've reached a point where Republicans are not even pretending not to be fascists anymore.

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I'd love to see a criminal jury decide this.

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He is making a specific threat about a specific person and specifically saying he will do it not using the "maybe someone should" rhetoric that gets people out of this.

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Another sign of pervasive lawlessness

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The Brownshirt Party gonna have brownshirt candidates.

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that it's the Democratic Party that aligns with the KKK's interests, because he's been very clear that he thinks Donald Trump and the Republican Party align with the KKK's interests.

I hate this gaslighting BS where Republicans try to pretend like every KKK member and Nazi in America don't vote for them in every election. No one who is proud of their swastika tattoo voted for Joe Biden. No one who is proud of the white robe and hood hanging in their closet voted for Joe Biden. If you think some of them did, go find me one.

This guy may be the most delusional Donnie I've heard of yet. He's not well. Throw the book at him and get him a psych evaluation.

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"Most Klansmen are Democrats" is something a person could believe was true...if they pretended American history since 1960s never happened, which most Republicans would like to believe.

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So did white Southerners in general. But that was decades ago.

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This is Massachusetts! Don't we have a blue law or something that would mandate this guy being brined in a barrel of salt cod on the public square for 90 days before being allowed back on the ballot?

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spent some time in the squared circle.
Methinks he took a few too many blows to the head.

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Agreed. A+ for his recollection of history though. Southern Democrats did found the KKK in response to Republican led "Reconstruction" efforts after the Civil War.

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Zero of the Democrats of today would find a home in the Democratic Party of 150 years ago.

But its always nice to see deeply serious people engage in deeply serious word play about deeply serious issues!

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The War Democrats who supported President Lincoln's military strategy probably would include many of today's Democrats. It's a complex issue. If you don't know what a Copperhead is, you aren't going to be able to discuss it without beclowning yourself so it's better for most people to just leave it alone. It's a favorite troll among Trump supporters, but no one takes a Trump supporter seriously on any level unless they themselves are a venomous, racist clown.

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...would find a home in any party of 150 years ago. It was a low-tech world in which, for example, if you got sick, there wasn't much even state-of-the-art medical care could do for you. More Civil War soldiers died of disease then in battle.

Republicans today might say they'd love to live in a world where the money was gold, there were no income taxes, no welfare state, and where if you needed a job and couldn't find one all you had to do was hop a westbound train.

But plop them down in 1874 and see how long they'd last.

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> A+ for his recollection of history though

...no. Don't buy into his bullshit, because you know and I know the picture is incomplete without the Civil Rights Act and Lee Atwater's Southern Strategy.

Palmer might know this, and he might not, but as a Republican, facts are of little interest to him anyway.

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Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
Winston Churchill, 1948

Of course this leaves out the various other philosophers and statemen who have uttered a similar phrase. I'm just upping Mr. Palmer's grade average because somewhere in those scrambled brain cells he managed to put together a true statement.

But we live in the present not in the past. Living in the present it is pretty damn obvious that all Democrats as a political party do not support the KKK just like all Republicans as a political party don't support them either.

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My spidey sense tells me that the guy hates women who do not fit a suffocating definition of what he believes is a woman's role in life. A woman of similar skin color who violates his code of conduct for women is so overwhelming for him that he resorts to threats of murder.

This is emotional illness. Whatever the reasons, he is an emotionally sick man. An emotional sickness that could be called a spiritual sickness. Same as Trump.

But does his hatred of women precede the emotional sickness? Or is this what he grew up with and remains so shallow in his mind that he cannot see past the spirit of violence that motivates his threats?

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The Boston Police Patrolmen’s Association for City Council previously.

In case you wondered what they look for in their endorsed candidates.

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ACAB.

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It's normal for a Republican.

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Notice how he didn't even spell his own name right in the hashtag

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Why are Massachusetts Republican Congressional candidates frequently so nutty?

You'd think the Mass GOP could find normal candidates who believe in fiscal conservativism, 2A with background checks, border security, and says they are personally pro-life but that they are against government taking away freedom from any women. A Republican like that might be electable.

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We found that out in 2016.

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There is more than enough here for the FBI to investigate whether this is a legitimate threat against a federal official or just wildly offensive political rhetoric.

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Black….

Republican…

Hanging….

There is so much here that I am just gonna simply give up and take a nap with my cat. WTActualEFF!!!!
Peace/out

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