Man charged with beating, strangling senior citizen he accused of upskirting woman on a Red Line train

Transit Police report arresting Tukan Manley, 31, for an incident on an inbound Red Line train heading towards South Station on June 11.

In the incident, videos of which were posted to Facebook, Manley and others accused the man, 66, of upskirting a woman sitting across from him on the train - and then going after her when she called him out on it. As Manley pummeled him, bystanders yelled at one guy apparently trying to break things up to let the beating continue because the guy deserved it.

After the incident, police say officers found the man slouched on a bench at the South Station Red Line stop, wincing in pain, with "a swollen right eye and cuts about his face" from where they say Manley beat and strangled him.

Manley was charged with assault and battery on an elderly person, strangulation and malicious destruction of property, police say, adding additional people captured in the video may face charges as well.

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What about the perv taking upskirt pics? No consequences for him?

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While reading the story,

Did you miss the repeated occurrence of the word beating? Or don't you think that's a consequence?

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Not really

I want criminal records linked to that guy which can follow him around for long after his bruises heal.

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where do you get the idea...

... that the guy was taking upskirt photos? Is it because of a news article that quotes a police report that quotes an apparently violent criminal having made that accusation?

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My own useless theory on this

Is that the older man was in fact taking unsolicited photos of a younger woman, or women, who objected to this. Although arguably rude, taking unsolicited photographs of other humans is perfectly legal as long as they are not photos of intimate areas ("upskirt" photos, etc). We all know it's legal because we are all being photographed all the time without our permission by our benevolent government, corporations and small businesses. Plus all the many aspiring artists and journalists (including the maker of the Facebook video that defends Manley) who photograph or record people to advance the cause of justice or to lol at their fashion choices or whatever. So Manley decided to take matters into his own hands without considering the full legal situation and factors involved. Anyway that's my theory.

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Huh?

The guy who looks like the bad guy from Last Action Hero assualted the black man who was stopping him from upskirting. I see an act of self defense. The bum even comes at the guy again.. why was he arrested again? For helping out a girl being assaulted?! So much for backwards Boston supporting #metoo

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Think he was 'up-skirting'?

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They're 100% positive and have solid proof?

Now, if the man assaulted physically assaulted or robbed the woman, then I'd be 100% behind his, well, let's call it what it is, lynching.

And now, apparently, if a man of color assaults, for whatever reason, a man of non-color, the man of non-color (MNC) should not resist, because that be misconstrued as racism on his part?

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I agree that vigilante

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I agree that vigilante justice generally isn't an answer. I don't know how one shoehorns one's grievances with political correctness supposedly run amok into a discussion of this incident though. The police charged the attacker with multiple crimes after all. What more do you want?

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Lynching?!

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Eh... Are Red Line trains now each equipped with a large elm tree and ominous length of rope?

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Hero or villian

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To some Mr. Manley is a heroic man who came to the defense of young black females accosted by an old white pervert and is being persecuted by racist cops. To others Mr. Manley is a villian who beat and strangled an innocent elderly man who did nothing wrong. It would be interesting to hear from the candidates for District Attorney and see if they would prosecute Mr. Manley.

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And then vote against anybody ...

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Who makes a determination about whom to prosecute based solely on those videos, because "probable cause" is a pretty high level of proof and you'd probably need more evidence than what's on them to bring charges and you'd presumably want a DA who is familiar with the most basic concepts of criminal law.

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Upskirting?

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How could the old man take upskirting photo's of woman that was not even wearing a skirt or dress?

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You’ve brought up the most

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You’ve brought up the most important fact that everyone else keeps ignoring. The old man may in fact be a perv, but it doesn’t change the fact he took a photo of a fully clothed woman, which is perfectly legal. How did this “hero” save anyone?

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Did the guy who got the beating...

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Did the elderly guy get his phone back for any length of time before the police got there? Even if it was only 30 seconds or so? Is it possible that he did have something illegal and managed to delete it after he got off the train but before the police could get there??

Because the girl that was scrolling through his phone saw something on there that made her throw up (near the end of that first video that was posted on Facebook).

I doubt she would have puked at pictures of random fully clothed women. I doubt anyone would have puked over photos of random fully clothed women.

Vigilante justice may be illegal, but I'm having a really, really, really hard time feeling sympathy for this particular creep.

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Speculations

A. This word "delete" does not mean what you think it means. There's nothing the guy could have done in the time you postulate that would prevent a police computer forensics tech from recovering any files he tried to erase. The data still exists on the device after it's "deleted." Maybe the cops haven't finished doing that kind of examination, and will charge the guy after all. Meanwhile, what you're doing is just speculation.

B. A girl threw up. You claim it was after looking at the guy's phone, and speculate that something she saw made her puke. Other possibilities exist. Maybe she was sickened by the other guy's violence. Maybe she had motion sickness.

You should let the cops do their job before you call for the old guy's head.

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Eh....

This seems like too many cop dramas. For one thing, if the phone is active, it's pretty likely that deleted files will get scrambled at the filesystem level quite quickly. And even if they're still not overwritten, there's no super-easy way to do the forensics you suggest, especially with modern encrypted devices.

There are definitely things that a forensics team could do, but they aren't going to spend the time and effort for a scuffle like this. I was on the jury for an armed robbery case, where the police officer on the witness stand alleged that an informant's phone had a confession from the defendant recorded, but that the tape recorder at the police station was broken so, oh well.

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Of course...

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If the T Police actually had a presence on the T maybe some of these incidences of up skirting/brawls could be prevented before they occur.

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Data?

Don't they happen pretty close to 'never'? Do you have evidence that there is a crime problem on the T? Or that the T is less safe than other public spaces?

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For research

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I clicked the link that says "crime" underneath the story and found at least 3 incidents in the last month.

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Video Vigilante

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The video vigilante who started the whole incident just went off on an NECN reporter calling him a creep for pointing out the old man did nothing illegal. She is defending the brutal beating and on her facebook account is calling for a "Free Tukan Manley" and is trying to contact him.

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Interview

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Saw the interview on Turtleboy. Just seems like
An over reaction to a guy taking photos of clothes women. Upskirting wjen there’s no one in skirts on the T makes
It seem like they were looking to beat him up.

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As someone who has dealt with

As someone who has dealt with sexual abuse, I 100% do not condone up skirting women on a train. However, I don't think violence is the answer. The man who beat the 66 year old could have pulled him away and then called the proper authorities. That way the pervert would have been dealt with and the younger man wouldn't have to deal with being charged. I think there was a better way to handle this situation.

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South Station Security

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The beating on the train goes on for several minutes while the train is idle in the station. The transit police are no where to be found. If they and the Amtrak police who patrol the station can't respond to this savage beating within minutes how long does it take them to respond to calls for help in stations where there is no police?

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There was a red line official

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There was a red line official first which is sadly in line with the T’s procedure. First they send an official to see what he/she can do to quickly get this train running again. If the official deems it necessary to notify police it gets done. The T puts schedule before all else, believe it or not

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You have got to kidding me

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Makes one wonder about the actual response time to crime on the MBTA. If they send an official first before notifying the police by the time the police respond the train will have left Boston and be in Braintree. Time to bring back the Guardian Angels.

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Nope

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This was classic vigilante justice. If there's been a gun, the guy would've been murdered by a group that set itself up as judge, jury and executioner.

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Screw the Second Amendment

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Any constitution that gives some asshole's right to carry a gun more weight than my right to live in a peaceful neighborhood needs to be changed, pronto.

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