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Simulated gunfire, explosions will ring out at Fenway as police practice for Orlando-like incident
By adamg on Sun, 06/12/2016 - 8:56am
Boston Police will conduct exercises at Fenway Park today to train on dealing with an "active shooter incident," just hours after a man killed 50 and injured 50 in an Orlando nightclub.
People outside Fenway could hear what sounds like gunfire and explosions - and see drones flying around.
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Good choice of training material
Guns kill a lot more people than bombs, and terrorists seem to be learning this from the Charleston and even Newtown incidents.
Ms,
a well, moderately potent bomb can easily kill 50-100 people. In warzones, IEDs the preferred method of killing, and more importantly, maiming the greatest # of casualties as easily as possible. Snipers are mostly effective at tying down as many enemies as possible, forcing resources to be extended on neutralizing the sniper.
All terrorist in urban settings have used bombs as the preferred method of killing and maiming.
You should maybe start watching the news again
Since it's obvious you are unaware of both of the Paris attacks by terrorists.
Florida
Orlando is even closer then Paris.
Actually, anon is correct.
But, it depends on the individual's access to material and training. In the US, access to anfo is severely restricted. Plain ammonia fertilizer, in large amounts, is purchased by farmers and well-known (farming) corporations. If I, as an individual, tried to buy bags of ammonium nitrate fertilizer for my 'lawn', ya, alarm bells would go off.
Still, there's been a lot of bombing/gun staged attacks. I think the greatest threat to safety is the utter lack of 'good guy' shooters on scene. The attack in Texas (draw you-know-who) resulted in the death of the shooters by a police officer on the scene.
An incomplete list:
Oklahoma City: Huge bomb, ammonium nitrate/fuel oil (ANFO). Total horror show, military trained perpetrator.
San Bernardino terror attack 16 Guns.
Tel Aviv terror attack 4 Guns
Paris, 130 a series of bombings and coordinated shootings
Fort Hood 13 Gun. (Was there a flash grenade involved?)
Chattanooga 4 Gun.
Little Rock 2009 1 dead 1 wounded. Gun.
Washington Navy Yard 12 Gun.
Norway 77 (bomb, then gunfire attack)
The Paris attacks illustrate your point. It was well-coordinated and effective. An attack like that against non-military targets is just wholesale slaughter.
Many of the other attacks involved a gun versus non-armed people. The military base/recruitment shootings were against essentially civilian targets. Face it, in the Ft. Hood shooting, most of the victims were attacking the perpetrator with shit like chairs and tables.
The Florida attack is horrible. If there were more pistols in the hands of the good guys, somebody would have gotten to him. Hell, Florida is a 'stand your ground' state. But, the club does have the right to set its own gun policy.
Maybe, just maybe, we can actually have a conversation about the proper defensive uses of weapons in a situation like this.
Forgot
Belgian attacks, dozens killed, acetone based bombs.
I sincerely doubt this
In a dark room, figure out who the shooter is, and hit them and nobody else?
I'm not the only one who thinks that this is pure fantasy. The FBI thinks that it is pure fantasy, based on the evidence: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-weisser/fbi-report-active-shooters_b_...
There were "good guys with guns" present at a number of shootings, and they were unable to shoot or stop the shooter due to the chaos.
In short: rhetoric and theory sound nice, but the evidence simply does not bear out the theory.
uh
Because we live in Crazy Land, I guess this probably is a controversial statement, but: bombs and guns are both bad. That's my hot take for today.
Anon
Dr., not Ms.
Please check the comparative statistics for bombings and shootings in the US for more information.
What about the Boston
What about the Boston marathon bombing?
Yup.
They had home made 'grenades' with them after the original bombings. Three dead in the bombings, with over 200 serious maimings.
What if they placed the backpacks on top of traffic light controls or mailboxes or something?
Think of it this way
Had the two bombers instead done a Paris-style open fire on the crowd, the death toll would have been far higher.
And had the two bombers
And had the two bombers instead done an Oklahoma City-type bomb, the death toll could have exceeded that of every mass shooting of the 21st century put together.
More tactical training can be done?
I'd hazard a guess that active shooter/ hostage scenarios can be trained for more effectively than bomb scenarios.
Large joint operations can use the coordinated training.
At the scene