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City pickup smashes into woman downtown

The Globe reports on an accident at Tremont and Winter streets this morning. Boston Police report the victim suffered a head injury in the crash.

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Here. Also watch to see cops haul away a bicyclist who went right under the police tape.

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My faith in the BPD is restored ... awesome.

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The idiot went under police crime scene tape. And you see that little evidence marker he nearly ran over? Yeaaaah.

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i hope he doesnt have a heart ailment

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lol, good. What kind of disrespectful DB do you have to be to do that?

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Hard to tell if the BPD truck was participating in the daily cavalcade of excessive speed or if the pedestrian was participating in the continuous spontaneous jaywalking festival that also happens at that spot.

One thing is certain: Mr. Wrong Way Suicyclist is stoopid. Spend enough time on the streets and you learn fast that police tape is a good boundary marker for a dangerous tire-eating debris field, if nothing else.

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There is quite often an ambulance blocking motorists view of that crosswalk. It is very dangerous

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Used to work near there. I'm surpised this doesn't happen more often.

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DPW, not Boston Police.

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I was up at winter/tremont after this happened.... I had thought since there were cameras there it was some film shoot - they kept that cordorned [sic?] off for a while

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Did you just (sic) yourSELF? As in, the word that shows up in your sentence was spelled wrong by the original author? Which would be you? THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

(I mean, it does make sense in that you spelled something wrong and didn't fix it, but wtf?)

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Yeah, I think "[sp?]" is what the poster was looking for. Or better yet, use a web browser that has a built-in spell-checker :-)

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Ah, how I love the City of Boston. Dot Joyce may not be involved, but the CYA Machine is in full spin cycle.

“She was fairly distraught after hitting the pedestrian,” said Royer. “If you ever have somebody run out in front of you, you never forget it.”

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/200...

Police are investigating the accident and could not offer details about the circumstances of the crash.

Royer said he has not spoken with the employee yet and does not know her name.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/89-11.htm

...seems to indicate that the State Police are supposed to be involved in some fashion. That seems rather prudent, given that the injury was caused by a city employee.

Sound familiar?

We're supposed to believe that he doesn't know her name, but he knows what happened? And how is it that Mr. Uninformed knows that the pedestrian "ran out in front" of the truck, when if you tally up the witness accounts, what happened is clear as mud? Half of them said they didn't hear a screech, the other half said they did.

Also: I love how any time anyone on the city's payroll does something stupid, they get whisked off to the hospital because they're distraught, and none of the papers manage to get the names.

Oh yeah, and...you can call it a collision, but it is NOT AN ACCIDENT. The feds haven't called them 'accidents' in more than ten years, it'd be nice if the Globe and Herald did the same. Saying it's an "accident" means that there was no cause or fault, which is not neutral reporting.

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What was she supposed to be? Filled with joy? How would you feel if you'd just run down some little old lady?

What if that train driver hadn't managed to stop the train in time? Would you be accusing her of aiming for the victim?

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I don't think you understood what i was saying. But:

How would you feel if you'd just run down some little old lady?

http://wbztv.com/local/brighton.hit.and.2.1087917....

People do bad things. And plenty of them don't feel bad about having done so.

That was not my point, however. My point: the spokesman professed to know exactly what happened, that the driver was distraught- but gosh, he just didn't know her name and hadn't spoken to her.

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By the time he gets to the scene (possibly from home, this being a holiday and all), the worker's already at the hospital, but he gets some preliminary info from some cop who doesn't want/have the time to talk to him.

I'm not trying to say city officials/workers never do anything wrong and never try to cover anything up. I just think it's a bit early to accuse them of that.

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Its not a State road so the State Police won't do the investigation. And trust me when I say the Boston Police don't care one ounce if a City Worker was involved in the crash. City workers get cited in crashes more than you think.

And saying something is an accident doesn't necessarily mean someone isn't at fault. Like if you are driving and your coffee falls out of your cup holder and into your lap and you crash into something. You didn't mean for the coffee to spill, it was an accident. You are still at fault though.

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Some of us don't put steaming hot beverages in cupholders because we're intelligent enough to realize that how we pilot our 2 ton hunk of metal is dependent largely upon the actions of others. Ex: that cabbie that zips out in front of you causing you to swerve.

http://azbikelaw.org/blog/was-that-an-accident-or-...

"An accident is defined as an unpredictable and unpreventable event."

http://web.archive.org/web/20040409081644/http://w...

"Motor vehicle crashes and injuries are predictable, preventable events. Continued use of the word "accident" promotes the concept that these events are outside of human influence or control. In fact, they are predictable results of specific actions.

Since we can identify the causes of crashes, we can take action to alter the effect, and avoid collisions. These events are not "acts of God" but predictable results of the laws of physics.

The concept of "accident" works against bringing all the appropriate resources to bear on the enormous problem of motor vehicle collisions. Continuous use of "accident" fosters the idea that the resulting injuries are an un-avoidable part of life. "

I really don't see what part of the situation that caused the pedestrian to be hit could be considered an "accident"...either the pedestrian walked/ran in front of the truck without looking, or the pedestrian stepped into the crosswalk and the truck could have but did not stop for her.

Also, did you actually read the MGL? It's more complicated that just "who owns the road".

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I think Pete was agreeing with you-as I do- that there is still almost always fault in things that are called "accidents". Just because you were distracted (say by spilling coffee) you still have the responsibility to drive safely, and should be responsible for the consequences if you do not.

Has anyone heard any more about the condition of the victim or whether the driver will be charged?

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Im not talking about the legal definition of an accident, crash, or collision. Im talking about why people might use the word "accident" instead of the word "crash". Its just a part of peoples vocabulary. I don't think that when people use the word "accident" they use it to excuse fault. They use it because it is the word they always used. They also use it because they might think of their intent when trying to verbalize what had happened.

If I were to write an official crash report, I would not use the word 'accident', I would use the word 'crash'. It doesn't matter what a newspaper, blogger, or operator uses for that word. Its crash no matter what.

And the MGL is very simple. It is about who owns or maintains the road.

Whenever a pedestrian is injured by a motor vehicle in a marked crosswalk, the department of state police or the municipal police department with jurisdiction of the street, in consultation with department of state police if deemed appropriate, shall conduct an investigation into the cause of the injury and any violation of this section or other law or ordinance and shall issue the appropriate civil or criminal citation or file an application for the appropriate criminal complaint, if any. This section shall not limit the ability of a district attorney or the attorney general to seek an indictment in connection with the operation of a motor vehicle which causes injury or death and which violates this section.

Boston is the municipal department since the crash happend in Boston (and not on a state maintained road). The "consulation with the state police" part is for small towns that don't have the resources to reconstruct large crashes. Or it might be for towns that ask for assistance with something. This is clearly not one of these cases.

Dumbass.

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Ooooooo.

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