NorthEndWaterfront.com reports on an altercation last week.
....an acceptable response? These are people, albeit young, behaving in a completely unacceptable manner, not problem grizzlies that need to be relocated.
All I read about is the "not in my backyard" mentality amongst so called terrorized citizens. This battle between skaters and BMX bikers with local citizens has been going on for a long time. This idea was proposed over ten years ago and still hasn't been completed. Sure, compare them to "problem grizzlies", because it's a fair comparison. I say this since it appears as though they're always forced out of areas, and end up in others, where they are also unwanted. All people are doing is pushing these young people around, and around, and around. I'd be pissed if I were them too. I'm not saying they'll all be drawn to a skate park like ants to food at a picnic. It sure is better to be able to tell them to use the skate park than it is to just tell them to get lost, and make them feel as though they're being tossed out like common trash.
Sorry, but you've obviously never tried making the simple trip through the Greenway on foot when the boarders are out. They seem to enjoy dive-bombing and intimidating pedestrians so that they can use the public areas all by themselves. I doubt that anyone would complain if they would keep to one part of the space and let others use the rest, but they really make a show of being there. Maybe some maturity will teach them that this isn't the way to get welomed to a new neighborhood. Most of us are just trying to get to the train station so that we can get home, and don't need the harassment while enroute.
I live in the area and have never been harassed by them. I also don't go picking a fight with them either.
I would be justified to hijack a trolley from Lechmere and ram it right up to West Medford. Everything would be ok in your book with that, right?
Skateboarding may not be a crime, as the bumper sticker goes, but it is also not a right to be an a-hole. Party on Thrasher.
Where do I say it's ok to go around hurting people? Highlight anything on this thread where I saw anything like that. What kind of asshole are you to go out and say I'd be in favor of ramming a trolley up into West Medford? Don't ever attach me to wanting to go out and hurt a bunch of people. You're a fucking prick.
Sorry Uhub, this guy pisses me off, and did an especially good job with mentioning the trolley shit.
Seriously, fuck you John. I'm not even going to read this tread anymore. Fucking dick.
These individuals have a hobby, that's great. Doesn't give them the right to ply their hobby where it's not allowed, destroy plantings, and certainly doesn't give them the right to assault someone.
Skating on the Greenway is annoying at best, dangerous at worst.
are you talking about unleashed dogs or skateboarders?
Article says staff was attempting to "escort" them from the park. We are only hearing one side of the story, which could likely be self serving. I've seen security/staff do some really stupid stuff when a "sorry guys, gotta go now or I will have to call the cops" was appropriate.
Oh and the Charles River Conservancy is pathetic. Boston has outsourced it's much needed skatepark project to a group with no sense of urgency nor any interest in skateboarders themselves. You should see the sorry excuse for a skatepark that is the reservation road skatepark in Hyde Park. Not only was it poorly built to start with, it has been neglected to the point of being dangerous. In addition, when skateboarders took things into their own hands to try and make it better, the city just knocked down their work.
Hudson, MA has a better skatepark than Boston for christ sake.
Skateboarder punks, maybe. But it says the staff person was shoved while attempted to "escort" them off the greenway. I don't know who the staff person was and what authority they have but it's possible they put their hands on the skateboarder which they probably do not have any legal right to do. That's what police are for.
If they're on private property, and are told to stop and leave, they need to leave,period.
A] Skateboarding can cause damage, which cost $ to repair.
B] There's this adult thing called liability; the property owners have legal liability, if, for example, one of them injure or God forbid, die, or they do likewise to others.
C] Skateboards make a lot of noise. Sometimes, in some locations, under certain conditions, this can get on non-skateboarders nerves
If they're on public property, and are requested to stop and leave by a responsible public official, they need to do so. Again, for the same reasons I mentioned above in A and B. To be honest, it's mostly B; those with responsibility for property, private or public, are very concerned with legal liability in case of accidents and so-on. And insurance companies pressure them to mitigate their liabilities or potential liabilities, or their premiums can increase.
There's no excuse to physically assault someone. And it shouldn't be excused away. That said, 10 years and the park still hasn't been built? And that said, as a boy and young man I rode my skateboard everywhere [NYC and Boston], and we liked to try all kinds of spots, especially if it were taboo/illegal, so they're gonna go where they want to go. Being harassed or even arrested is kinda a badge of honor, street cred.
As a culture and society we should do what we can to encourage everyone, not just skateboarders, to be physically active, get regular exercise, be outside and not indoors in front of a computer screen day in and day out. Or sitting on your ass behind the wheel of a car/SUV, truck day in and day out for too long [the worse type of position a body can be in for any extended period, extremely unhealthy]. I don't need to tell anyone of the very serious health problems in this country due mostly to what's become a socially acceptable sedentary lifestyle. When I was kid, not that long ago, kids, teenagers, would be outside a lot more than they are on average now. You'd see street hockey games, t ball, whatever, everywhere. Today, by comparison, most streets and many neighborhoods are as dead as a cemetery, almost devoid of life except passing cars.
Talk about a natural constituency for the current, far-left leadership on Beacon Hill and at City Hall. If these layabout, liberal skateboarders got organized politically, they would be as influential as GLBT and NARAL. Skate park? They'd probably get one with a buffer zone. Never mind the assaults skateboarders, get registered and submit your wish list to Deval and Kineavy.
I agree. It would be great if young people got more involved in the political process.
Not sure if this is the absolute pure undiluted idiocy it appears to be or some kind of wizard-level troll. . .
But NOT wizard level (based on past history).
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